What led me to God

[Denise]

Yes, that is true. That is one reason I could never call my episode "Schizophrenia". It was brief psychosis. Why it occurred through playing with an ouija, I do not know. My mental state at the time was one of loneliness and social phobia. I still struggle with social phobia.

I wrote that beause you said that the Psychiatric field might be surprised that your episode only lasted 8 months. I was just trying to point out that a lot of episodes are brief and not Schizophrenia which usually lasts for years and years.

 

[Ruby]

You may have just psyched yourself out, then. Or you could have found a way of ignoring the symptoms of mental illness without curing the disease. I sincerely hope the latter is not true.

At the time, I thought it was the obsessive way I played with the ouija board that caused my little psychosis. What led me to be obsessive with playing the board ws that I was lonely and social phobic.

I am still social phobic and have sought help for that for a few years now. I have come a long way. Life is good and full of hope as well as challenges.

 

[Ruby]

I wrote that beause you said that the Psychiatric field might be surprised that your episode only lasted 8 months. I was just trying to point out that a lot of episodes are brief and not Schizophrenia which usually lasts for years and years.

Yes. I do think that my brief psychosis would be met with surprise....even though it was not typical schizophrenia. The fact that it ended without Psychiatric help would be the surprise.

 

[Dancing David]

Gee Ruby , you sure are a cool person. Calmly talikng about mental illness. As someone who was a mental health professional for twelve years I became well aquainted with mental illness.
There are short forms of psychosis that are not schizophrenia, but you don't talk about the things usually associated with psychosis.

So many things can be called voices that are not, intrusive thoughts for example.

Glad you found your path.

Peace
dancing David

 

[Skeptical Greg]

The fact that it ended without Psychiatric help would be the surprise.

No surprise at all.. Very few psychosis end soley because of psychiatric help.




Changed: 'with' to ' soley because of'

 

[Ruby]

Gee Ruby , you sure are a cool person. Calmly talikng about mental illness. As someone who was a mental health professional for twelve years I became well aquainted with mental illness.
There are short forms of psychosis that are not schizophrenia, but you don't talk about the things usually associated with psychosis.

So many things can be called voices that are not, intrusive thoughts for example.

Glad you found your path.

Peace
dancing David

Thnx!!!!

 

[Ruby]

No surprise at all.. Very few psychosis end with psychiatric help.

I'd be curious to know how they did end. Perhaps it would help understand what happened to me.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

I'd be curious to know how they did end. Perhaps it would help understand what happened to me.

So would a lot of mental health professionals.

 

[c4ts]

Yes, that is true. That is one reason I could never call my episode "Schizophrenia". It was brief psychosis. Why it occurred through playing with an ouija, I do not know. My mental state at the time was one of loneliness and social phobia. I still struggle with social phobia.

Going to church is helping you to overcome social phobia, I hope.

 

[Lord Kenneth]

I hope Ruby looks at the evidence and makes the proper conclusion toward the existence of god.

Which is, of course, mine.

 

[Finella]

I just did a quick search for DSM criteria for Schizophrenia:


http://www.sc.maricopa.edu/sbscience/psy266/criteria/psychosis/schizophrenia.html

You'll note that there's types of schizophrenia, which include "episodic" or even "single episode". I agree with others, though, that Ruby's experience may have been a single episode of psychosis, which is often found in severe types of mood disorders (e.g., depression, bipolar disorder).

I still think there's something very wrong with our medical/psychiatric system if a doctor is so scary to a person or they are so worried about having to divulge their medical condition to others that they do not seek help. If the system were as caring as a healthy church is, I'm sure more people would not only seek help, but would actually be helped.

---,---'--{@

 

[BillyJoe]

Hi Ruby,

I just got your link on that other thread and I find you posted your story a couple of days ago and there are already eight pages of replies which I haven't had time to read.

I have read your story though and I think you already have most of the answers. I suppose the only one you missed is that you were looking for religion and so it is no wonder that you found it.

Hope to read more soon.

regards,
BillyJoe


edit:
Sorry I confused myself with multiple windows open. There are only 2 pages. Still, I have to leave it till tomorrow

 

[Dancing David]

I still think there's something very wrong with our medical/psychiatric system if a doctor is so scary to a person or they are so worried about having to divulge their medical condition to others that they do not seek help. If the system were as caring as a healthy church is, I'm sure more people would not only seek help, but would actually be helped.

---,---'--{@

Oooh, as a former mental health professional I have to disagree, there are bad practitioners everywhere. However the willingness to seek treatment is a societal phenomena which the mental health system very actively tries to change. Please don't tell me that I spent twelve years of my working life making it harder for people to get treatment. Please do a search on Fred Friese at Case Western University to see where the mental health system gets it's perspective, then there is Dr. Fischer, and then the whole Boston U. recovery/PSR movement.

Families and culture lead to more stigma than the mental health system.

In my experience most people ignore the prodomal period when they talk about schizophrenia, there is usually this long time period where the symptoms are sub-critical. As for why some poeple get well and others don't, there are over three hundred chemicals our brain uses, so there are most likely three hundred schizophrenias.

Sorry I will now get off the soap box.
Sorry to hijack the thread.

Peace
dancing david

 

[Ruby]

Going to church is helping you to overcome social phobia, I hope.

Yep!!

 

[Ruby]

I just did a quick search for DSM criteria for Schizophrenia:


http://www.sc.maricopa.edu/sbscience/psy266/criteria/psychosis/schizophrenia.html

You'll note that there's types of schizophrenia, which include "episodic" or even "single episode". I agree with others, though, that Ruby's experience may have been a single episode of psychosis, which is often found in severe types of mood disorders (e.g., depression, bipolar disorder).

I still think there's something very wrong with our medical/psychiatric system if a doctor is so scary to a person or they are so worried about having to divulge their medical condition to others that they do not seek help. If the system were as caring as a healthy church is, I'm sure more people would not only seek help, but would actually be helped.

---,---'--{@

In my case, my aversion to Doctors was irrational. It was all a part of my social phobia. It took time, years, to discover that most Docs don't bite, and most are very compassionate and helpful. I've certainly heard horror stories, but so far, I have nothing but good things to say about the medical field and those in it!

 

[Ruby]

 

[Ruby]

Oooh, as a former mental health professional I have to disagree, there are bad practitioners everywhere. However the willingness to seek treatment is a societal phenomena which the mental health system very actively tries to change. Please don't tell me that I spent twelve years of my working life making it harder for people to get treatment. Please do a search on Fred Friese at Case Western University to see where the mental health system gets it's perspective, then there is Dr. Fischer, and then the whole Boston U. recovery/PSR movement.

Families and culture lead to more stigma than the mental health system.

In my experience most people ignore the prodomal period when they talk about schizophrenia, there is usually this long time period where the symptoms are sub-critical. As for why some poeple get well and others don't, there are over three hundred chemicals our brain uses, so there are most likely three hundred schizophrenias.

Sorry I will now get off the soap box.
Sorry to hijack the thread.

Peace
dancing david

Thanks for posting. You did not hijack the thread.

 

[Yahzi]

Dark Cobra

She was, and possibily still is, delusional.

Yes, but her delusionals are helpful.

Now, if she remains reliant on these delusions forever, that would be like remaining addicted to pain-killers. Some people have to take medicine their entire lives, but hopefully they get healthy enough they don't need them.

There is nothing wrong with Ruby being delusional, as long as her delusions are helpful. But just like pain-killers, you have to be careful not to wind up in a spot where they are doing more harm than good. And, you shouldn't share your pain meds with your friends. Hopefully Ruby understands that religion might be good for her, but isn't necessarily good for other people. Or even true.

The goal is of course for her to live by reason. But sometimes people need a little help to get by.

 

[Dancing David]

Excuse me, but you haven't know a lot of delusional people have you? Usually they start jumping up and down and yelling when you confront thier beliefs, just as you would if someone said the sun rose in the west.

Believe me delusional people are very sensitive about thier beliefs, especialy if you don't agree that they are Napoleon.

Peace
dancing david

 

[Ruby]

Excuse me, but you haven't know a lot of delusional people have you? Usually they start jumping up and down and yelling when you confront thier beliefs, just as you would if someone said the sun rose in the west.

Believe me delusional people are very sensitive about thier beliefs, especialy if you don't agree that they are Napoleon.

Peace
dancing david

You aren't going to insinuate that I'm not Napoleon are you?