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Can someobody tell me how this magic trick is done?

Lukas1986

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Here is a video where a guy claims telekinesis. I am however skeptical that this is the case but I cannot figure out how he does that because I am not a magician and I have no skills in that. Here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBY3lGvb1AE

Also which made this suspicious to me is one of the commentary of the author from the same link I posted here that there is no telekinesis involved rather just normal tricks when the author from that video named Telekinesis Mind Possible confessed that he cannot move things on a table:

I'm not able to move anything that's placed directly on a table surface at this point - and that's because of the friction. It's too much for me right now anyway, maybe that'll change. The point of balancing things on a needle is to reduce the friction. Trebor Seven is far more skilled at TK and has much more experience, and he's able to do things on a table surface, so you should do a search for his channel. His work is legitimate and it's what got me started. As far as the video you link you shared, I have my doubts about its authenticity (but I remain open minded until I can see it in person). But a BETTER answer is this - if a person wants to find out if something is possible or not, then that person should get to work and try to do it him/herself. Simply passing judgement on something your or I can't do and then concluding that it just can't be done is the easy way out. I wasn't sure about TK when I started, so I put a lot of time and effort in to finding out for myself, and learned a lot in the process, it's very worthwhile. In response to your other post, all the windows were closed and there was no wind movement inside that room. If air movement was an issue, it would have most likely moved the object when I was sitting down and getting settled right before the experiment started.

If someone can help me here I would be grateful. Thanks for reading this and I wish you a nice day.
 
wow...are there no ends to these shysters??

Before speculating further, I should point out that since there is no live audience, he wouldn't even need a live trick to do this. I've only been playing with video editing for a couple years, and I could easily reproduce something like this just using After Effects or similar program.

But assuming it's a trick--
Good grief, well I aint a magician but I can think of dozens of ways this could be accomplished.
SG's magnet idea is a good one.
Fine threads or wires is a possibility. Note that the camera is up pretty close, so you can't see what is happening in the foreground (in front of the action).
Most suspicious is that the base of the pencil is never visible--so I suspect the entire pencil is rotating, you wouldn't see it cause it is solid yellow. It could be on a motorized drive below screen level. The needle it just to distract you--you never see him place the can on the needle, its all hidden inside the can. It could easily be secured to the pencil, which as I said could easily be rotating.
Bottom line--put him in a controlled environment and he will fail miserably! :)
 
Could be convective currents, although if it is the heat source doesn't have to be his hands--as I mentioned in my response, this is a video!

Did you see the psi wheel under a glass video that follows your link?
Here's how it was done:
http://forgetomori.com/2009/skepticism/psychic-powers-video-proof/

Note that the author of that piece chastises skeptics for 'speculating' on how a trick is done...he scolds my After Effects comment lol. I might somewhat take issue with that, but the point is, it's just a trick...end o story.
 
Could be convective currents, although if it is the heat source doesn't have to be his hands--as I mentioned in my response, this is a video!

Did you see the psi wheel under a glass video that follows your link?
Here's how it was done:
http://forgetomori.com/2009/skepticism/psychic-powers-video-proof/

Note that the author of that piece chastises skeptics for 'speculating' on how a trick is done...he scolds my After Effects comment lol. I might somewhat take issue with that, but the point is, it's just a trick...end o story.

All bets are off for "the magician's code" when they are shysters claiming paranormal powers. Period. The honor among magicians is because they're performers and make their living by amazing people.... not by lying and cheating.
 
My guess is that the can one, specifically, is done by someone's hand rotating the pencil, beneath the view of the cameras. The others seem more like standard psi-wheel fare.
 
Is there anything in the OP video that couldn't be done by something as simple as having air blown in from outside the frame?
 
Is there anything in the OP video that couldn't be done by something as simple as having air blown in from outside the frame?

No there isn't.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over a Youtube video. It isn't even a magic trick if you can't do it in public and if you could move stuff with your mind you would be famous for doing more important things than a youtube video.

If you want to perform similar stuff for your friends I would recommend Lou Tannens in NYC probably .com.
 
No there isn't.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over a Youtube video. It isn't even a magic trick if you can't do it in public and if you could move stuff with your mind you would be famous for doing more important things than a youtube video.
Even if moving stuff with your mind was possible, I'd be completely and utterly underwhelmed by the video in the OP as a demonstration.

So after months of practice of telekinesis, you can demonstrate it by setting up an aluminium drinks can balanced upon a pin in order to minimise friction.... and then make it sit there for minutes and every so often rotate very very slowly?

Wow.
 
Even if moving stuff with your mind was possible, I'd be completely and utterly underwhelmed by the video in the OP as a demonstration.

So after months of practice of telekinesis, you can demonstrate it by setting up an aluminium drinks can balanced upon a pin in order to minimise friction.... and then make it sit there for minutes and every so often rotate very very slowly?

Wow.

Well, there you have it. The state of telekinesis since the dawn of time. Pretty sad.
 
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All bets are off for "the magician's code" when they are shysters claiming paranormal powers. Period. The honor among magicians is because they're performers and make their living by amazing people.... not by lying and cheating.


Well, they are lying and cheating, they're just upfront about it :D
 
A few members knowledgeable about magic have already commented, but I'll throw my two cents in...

I know how I'd do it, but I don't know how he does it. Why? Because there are often several equally good methods to produce the same effect, especially when unconstrained by performance conditions.

To be fair though, I have to give him credit for building the right amount of suspense and not gilding the lily by having the can spin too much. Less is more in this type of effect.

With that type of low friction setup, one question you might ask yourself is why does the can stop moving? Shouldn't it continue to move once started, at least for a little while? For me, that favors one method over the others.
 
A few members knowledgeable about magic have already commented, but I'll throw my two cents in...

I know how I'd do it, but I don't know how he does it. Why? Because there are often several equally good methods to produce the same effect, especially when unconstrained by performance conditions.

To be fair though, I have to give him credit for building the right amount of suspense and not gilding the lily by having the can spin too much. Less is more in this type of effect.

With that type of low friction setup, one question you might ask yourself is why does the can stop moving? Shouldn't it continue to move once started, at least for a little while? For me, that favors one method over the others.

hmmm... strings, air currents, magnets: keep moving.
Rotating pencil: stops when the pencil stops.
I still think I could do most if not all of this in After Effects--but it would take some work, the tricks would be far less time consuming.
 

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