Zoophilia - Should it be banned?

[angrysoba]

This is the issue that most interests me.

And me, hence the thread.

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

He probably had a low IQ and was semi-retarded... Oh wait he was an engineer.

He didn't seek medical care for several hours because he was embarrassed.

If he had gone to the ER promptly, and said, "I just got my ass reamed by a horse, and something's not right," he'd be alive today.

ETA: I understand his reluctance.

 

[Caper]

I was going to post a story about a woman from Arizona who got charged with trying to arrange a bestiality encounter. I remember being puzzled because she was pretty damn hot. But I believed the stories at the time. As it turns out there was much more to the story and I don't think she knew about the arrangement at all. Man that sucks... the whole world thinking you're and animal ****** and you aren't at all. The same woman was later brutally raped.... now I feel bad.
http://www.examiner.com/article/woman-nabbed-bestiality-bust-speaks-out-about-arrest-and-backlash

 

[William Parcher]

I don't know how someone could **** a duck without doing serious damage.

Well, ducks do lay duck eggs which are kinda big.

As an aside, duck reproduction in the wild is like rape.

 

[Scordatura]

Heh. You're talking to someone who lives on Waldron Island. No grocery stores, no ferries. I have to swim.

I was exaggerating about the grocery store - I live on the tip of the Olympic Peninsula - but it sure feels that way sometimes, especially when the wind's gusting at 65 mph.

Back to the OP:

I don't quite understand the difference between a zoophile and beastialist. As far as I can figure, a zoophile wants a relationship with an animal which may include sex while a beastialist just wants to have sex with an animal.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zoophile

But Wiki uses the terms interchangeably so I dunno. It also notes:

Some zoophiles and researchers draw a distinction between "zoophilia" and "bestiality", using the former to describe the desire to form sexual relationships with animals, and the latter to describe the sex acts alone.[10] Confusing the matter yet further, writing in 1962, Masters used the term "bestialist" specifically in his discussion of zoosadism*(for which, see below), which refers to deriving pleasure (though not necessarily sexual pleasure) from inflicting cruelty to animals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_zoophilia

Anyway, here's an interview with a self-reported zoophile – the author of the article may be familiar to some:

So, how do you have sex with a mare? Do you always develop an intimate relationship with her first? Is there foreplay?

I’ll tell you about the first time I had sex with my current mare friend. It’s sort of a comedy of errors. So I’d had her for about a year. I had her in the barn. I’d given her food. I’d brushed her, cleaned her under her tail, and cleaned her face. I’d scooped snot out of her nose — we know each other very intimately. We were in a barn with all the lights out and a nice warm heater; it was lovely. So, she was settling in for the night, and I went to the stall and I just sat in the corner. I let her come to me, and that’s one of the things I am very adamant about: I never use a halter or any kind of restraint.

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/11/what-its-like-to-date-a-horse.html

He goes on to note that he's been married for 19 years and his wife is aware of his zoophilia and is okay with it.

I'm sitting on the fence for now and just reading other peoples' views before voting. And I'm unsure about the consent argument. Would a dog's wagging tail be considered implied consent?

Sigh, I dunno. Maybe you have to have these feeling in order to understand them enough to reason things out. Dogs trying to hump my leg annoy me so it's hard to relate.

 

[Caper]

I don't know someone who could **** a duck without doing serious damage.

I Could!!!!!! ... oh wait.

 

[Butter!]

I think I'm just gonna stay out of this one.

 

[shemp]

Zoophilia, Zoophilia, Zoophilia, Zoophilia

And I swear
that I don't have a gnu.
No I don't have a gnu.
No I don't have a gnu.
No I don't have a gnu.
No I don't have a gnu.
Zoophilia, Zoophilia.

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

I was exaggerating about the grocery store - I live on the tip of the Olympic Peninsula - but it sure feels that way sometimes, especially when the wind's gusting at 65 mph.

Back to the OP:

I don't quite understand the difference between a zoophile and beastialist. As far as I can figure, a zoophile wants a relationship with an animal which may include sex while a beastialist just wants to have sex with an animal.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zoophile

But Wiki uses the terms interchangeably so I dunno. It also notes:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_zoophilia

Anyway, here's an interview with a self-reported zoophile – the author of the article may be familiar to some:



http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/11/what-its-like-to-date-a-horse.html

He goes on to note that he's been married for 19 years and his wife is aware of his zoophilia and is okay with it.

I'm sitting on the fence for now and just reading other peoples' views before voting. And I'm unsure about the consent argument. Would a dog's wagging tail be considered implied consent?

Sigh, I dunno. Maybe you have to have these feeling in order to understand them enough to reason things out. Dogs trying to hump my leg annoy me so it's hard to relate.

Bestiality entails a whole range of acts with many species. I think the best solution is probably to outlaw it in general, while using common sense at the level of enforcement. If someone is blowing a dog, please do not use my tax dollars to investigate further. If someone is terrorizing or inflicting pain on animals of any species, that should be prosecuted.

 

[Cain]

He didn't seek medical care for several hours because he was embarrassed.

If he had gone to the ER promptly, and said, "I just got my ass reamed by a horse, and something's not right," he'd be alive today.

I guess you could say he died of embarrassment. A perverse case of the so-called Streisand effect.

On a similar note, I've heard many times of women rubbing peanut butter on their sensitive parts and having a dog lick them clean. That seems perfectly consensual to me. Are the people who want to outlaw it going to say there's a greater likelihood to transmit germs and disease than having a dog sleep in your bed and lick your face?

 

[Tassman]

If the animal is dead, would that then be a case of necrozoophilia?

If the animal is not only dead but of the same sex would that then be a case of homonecrozoophilia?

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

I guess you could say he died of embarrassment. A perverse case of the so-called Streisand effect.

On a similar note, I've heard many times of women rubbing peanut butter on their sensitive parts and having a dog lick them clean. That seems perfectly consensual to me. Are the people who want to outlaw it going to say there's a greater likelihood to transmit germs and disease than having a dog sleep in your bed and lick your face?

See my comment above. That strikes me as something that could be technically illegal, but not an enforcement priority.

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

A penguin pulls into a repair shop because his car is making a strange noise.

The mechanic says, "give me half an hour to check it out."

The penguin says, "alright, I'll go across the street and have some ice cream."

When he comes back, the mechanic says, "it looks like you blew a seal."

"Nah," says the penguin. "That's just ice cream."

 

[ddt]

Well, ducks do lay duck eggs which are kinda big.

As an aside, duck reproduction in the wild is like rape.

And for the jackpot: The First Case of Homosexual Necrophilia in the Mallard Anas platyrhynchos, winner of the Ig Nobel Prize 2003.

 

[Brainster]

I remember a bar trivia machine one time asking what percentage of farm boys had sex with an animal, and the answer was 25%. I laughed and commented that was the answer you got when you asked the boys; if you asked the animals it was higher.

 

[Meed]

Or maybe there is no problem at all, except that these other things are legal and acceptable?

That would be my take. Zoophilia and the meat industry both involve unnecessary cruelty for the sake of gratification (whether of the taste buds or the sex drive).

 

[MontagK505]

No. It's real. Mr. Hands. An Engineer. I don't know if he seduced the horse. But he was killed by the horse.

Sorry about that. I meant to say that the story about Mr. Hands is similar to a myth about Catherine the Great.

 

[MontagK505]

He probably had a low IQ and was semi-retarded... Oh wait he was an engineer.

I've worked with engineers and outside of their profession, a few of them can be as stupid as anyone else. The majority of them can understand cause and effect outside the engineering lab.

 

[MontagK505]

He didn't seek medical care for several hours because he was embarrassed.

If he had gone to the ER promptly, and said, "I just got my ass reamed by a horse, and something's not right," he'd be alive today.

ETA: I understand his reluctance.

There are people who would prefer death to humiliation.

 

[Caper]

And for the jackpot: The First Case of Homosexual Necrophilia in the Mallard Anas platyrhynchos, winner of the Ig Nobel Prize 2003.

I wonder if homosexual necrophiliacs struggled to gain acceptance within the wider necrophiliac community.