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Cont: Electric Vehicles II

New extended range Tesla.

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I have to admit that is funny. You gotta do what you have to do.

Jokes aside, inevitably, EVs will dominate the car market.

A year ago I bought a 100ah 12 volt Lifepo4 battery with a 100amp BMS for $205 US to power a well pump. I just bought from the same manufacturer a 314ah 12 volt battery with a 200amp BMS and auto heating warming for low temperature charging for $306. That is more than triple the capacity and more features for only a 50 percent increase in price. What's also amazing the battery size is only slightly larger.
 
I have to admit that is funny. You gotta do what you have to do.

Jokes aside, inevitably, EVs will dominate the car market.

A year ago I bought a 100ah 12 volt Lifepo4 battery with a 100amp BMS for $205 US to power a well pump. I just bought from the same manufacturer a 314ah 12 volt battery with a 200amp BMS and auto heating warming for low temperature charging for $306. That is more than triple the capacity and more features for only a 50 percent increase in price. What's also amazing the battery size is only slightly larger.

I don't think it's particularly funny. It's playing into that stupid trope that all electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels. It's only funny if you think that's true.
 
I don't think it's particularly funny. It's playing into that stupid trope that all electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels. It's only funny if you think that's true.
No, it's funny.

And yes, it plays into a trope. That's what makes it funny. But most people know better. And in a way, so is the idea that people might be that ignorant.
 
Ive found that the more affluent areas have a lot of Teslas, but in the more 'plebeian' parts of Australia, the cheaper stuff like MG, and definitively BYD are far more common....

I spent christmas at my sisters and then my mums, and I only spotted a total of three Teslas in all (all on the Gold Coast, while BYD (I was surprised in particular that the Dolphins seem more common than the larger Atto, while the Sharks are everywhere on the Gold Coast- probably all 'pavement princesses' lol) are definitely 'most commonly seen EV while randomly driving along....' the Atto LR SUV and Shark 6 hybrid ute are the 'rural winners' with zero Teslas seen in rural areas at all....

In the commercial side, again BEV delivery vehicles are definitely way up- in 2020, I had never seen a single larger EV being used for delivery, now they are everywhere- Aussie Post in particular, everything I see is EV from the local 'postie bike up to the MR trucks doing the inter-post office bulk mail deliveries, but the courier companies and supermarkets home deliveries are also all EV at least at my sisters and mums locations- the Chinese and Euro stuff is definitely almost all the market share there....
 
I see as many BYDs as I see Teslas, though I haven't stopped to count.

It may be that I'm not so good at spotting the BYDs, but I make a point of looking at the make of EVs I pass if I can see it and I don't remember when I last saw a BYD, if ever. In contrast, just about every time I look at the road there's a Tesla on it.
 
Ive found that the more affluent areas have a lot of Teslas, but in the more 'plebeian' parts of Australia, the cheaper stuff like MG, and definitively BYD are far more common....

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I unfortunately have ended up living in one of the most affluent areas in the country, one of the next door villages (served by the same MP) basks in the claim that it has the highest average property prices of any village in the entire nation, and there are shed loads of Teslas here. When I went up to my mother's in the North west of England the number of Teslas plummeted. What happens when the ones around me are due for replacing - no one keeps a car for more than 2 or 3 years, what would the neighbours think - I think will be a good indicator of the future of current Tesla sales. They were bought by the well off partly as a status symbol and partly so they could do something for the planet when they weren't jetting off to their second home in Dubai.

Now that there are acceptable alternatives (status symbol wise) I suspect we will see a lot less new Teslas on the road around here.

Yeah I am playing up to the stereotypes of folk around here for a bit of a laugh (there are plenty of regular people) but there really was a status symbol value in owning a Tesla, both from the better for the environment and expense perspective. Folk were proud to say they owned a Tesla, Musk's political antics seems to have knocked that on the head and with there being no new models of Teslas whilst at the same time more electric versions from the prestige marques I suspect their appeal to the more wealthy will quickly diminish.
 
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I'm quite surprised that Teslas do so well considering the very limited choice of models. They don't have anything that would suit me even if we ignore the price. But then, even four or five years ago they didn't have much competition, and a fair proportion of the cars I see aren't particularly new.
 
Speaking only for myself, I have no reason to change my car. I reserved my TM3 the day it was announced and finally received it in March 2019, and it has given me nearly seven years of problem-free motoring since then. It has just sailed through its periodic inspection and is immaculate inside and out. So unless I suffer serious battery degradation, it’s going to stay.
 
Speaking only for myself, I have no reason to change my car. I reserved my TM3 the day it was announced and finally received it in March 2019, and it has given me nearly seven years of problem-free motoring since then. It has just sailed through its periodic inspection and is immaculate inside and out. So unless I suffer serious battery degradation, it’s going to stay.
Like me, and the exact opposite of the 'have to keep up with the Jones at all costs' like Darat mentions lol...

Hell I've only ever 'owned' one new car in my life (and that was my ex's- it was hers right up until rego time or money needed spending- then magically it became mine again....)

Currently parked in my driveway- the newest is a 1999 Hilux, 97 Corolla, 96 Mercedes truck and a 68/84 'bitsa' Landcruiser (bits from this model, bits from that model....)

The BYD (when Ive saved up my pennies-hell no to a loan at my age...)will be the second new car and almost certainly the last car I intend to own ever.....

Most of the vehicles here I've owned for years/decades- the Corolla is the newest and was originally intended for a friends daughter until they moved away after the bushfires here (which burnt their place out) and they moved back down south.... I finished rebuilding it (complete rewire due to mice) and put it back on the road- as the Hilux is on its last legs....
 
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I always thought Toyota missed and bogan slogan opportunity in Australia.
I mean, “Nothing frightens a Triton?”. Please…

How about “No one ◊◊◊◊◊ * with a Hilux”

* think FAFO
 
I always thought Toyota missed and bogan slogan opportunity in Australia.
I mean, “Nothing frightens a Triton?”. Please…

How about “No one ◊◊◊◊◊ * with a Hilux”

* think FAFO
Like the 'Bugga' Toyota ads....
These and various other versions ran in Australia for over a decade lol (in fact, the model in that ad in the link is what I am STILL driving around in lol- mines a 1999 build date on it...)
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And the 'unbreakable Hilux' ads...

Ironically I had my first Hilux did pretty much the same thing- except down a hill and off a 3m dropoff, not off a cliff- 'write off' as in it was never rego'd again (hell the chassis had 'waves' down it, and the front diff was torn off on one side- it is STILL in use at a mates farm as a daily driver 'paddock basher'- turn the key and starts and runs perfectly (the front diff is STILL held on on the passengers side by a chain off my old towtruck and a pair of chain dogs....
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We weren't even game to go near it for over a week-as it had two full LPG bottles (the 70kg?? ones- nearly as tall as me)- still in the back- and they were literally embedded into the metalwork of the tub!!!!!
Emptied them by opening the valves and running like hell, and leaving it there until the next weekend- then dragged it out with a mini excavator....

chain the diff, put the spare on the front left- and took the canopy top off, still working hard hauling bales of hay for the horses....
(all because of said bloody horses- I'd damaged the handbrake cable on a rock in the paddock, pulled up at the top gate and jumped out to open it, turned around and - um wheres the ute????)
I'd put it on- but when we dragged it out- the handbrake was still pulled out- but the cable was snapped underneath...
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If I wasnt basically 'retired' these days, I'd save up and get the Hybrid Shark6 (up to 100km on its battery pack before the motor starts up) but the Atto3 is all EV, can tow up to 1200kg (which is all I need to tow any of my trailers, even the horse float I can legally tow empty) and about $20k cheaper....
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A 'proper' 4wd chassis ute like the Shark would be better (and its got a 2400kg tow capacity), but my wallet just wont stretch for that....
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If I wasnt basically 'retired' these days, I'd save up and get the Hybrid Shark6 (up to 100km on its battery pack before the motor starts up) but the Atto3 is all EV, can tow up to 1200kg (which is all I need to tow any of my trailers, even the horse float I can legally tow empty) and about $20k cheaper....
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A 'proper' 4wd chassis ute like the Shark would be better (and its got a 2400kg tow capacity), but my wallet just wont stretch for that....
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Don't get the BYD Dolphin for towing. It is not rated for that, i.e. no trailers allowed. However it does have the longest range of the BYD models: nearly 500kms.
 
Don't get the BYD Dolphin for towing. It is not rated for that, i.e. no trailers allowed. However it does have the longest range of the BYD models: nearly 500kms.
Dolphin isnt tow rated at all in Australia- BYD Atto 3 is legal up to 1200kg with the h/d towbar fitted (with a braked trailer- anything over 750kg in Australia requires a braked trailer, no exceptions)

I need tow capability of at least 1100kg as I run a trailer hire company here, and obviously trailer towing on any of my vehicles is a must (the 1100kg min is because thats what my heaviest trailer runs empty at ie the horse/cattle float....)
 

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