Cont: The Russian Invasion of Ukraine part 9

[Dr.Sid]

Problems of the west are not caused by Russia .. except the problem named Russia. Which certainly is a problem, at least for Europe. True, not so much for US, but this was not aimed at US. US has been handled.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Tell ya what, Putin: let's go ahead and wipe Russia off the map. Then we'll sit down and really work on our internal problems. Thanks for showing us the way! #TooBlessed #RussiaDelendoEstrogen #XmasMiracle #PeppermintRabbit #JCPenneySale

 

[Blue Mountain]

My latest thought is even if Putin did win the war and effectively gain control over Ukraine, he'll end up inheriting several million very angry Ukrainians, both within the country and out. It won't be as bad as trying to hold Afghanistan, but it won't be a cakewalk either.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Off to gulags and executions

 

[Andy_Ross]

Difficult Night for Russian Air Defense: Defense Forces Hit Two Oil Depots, Key Substation, and Two Radars in Crimea

Defense Forces struck two oil depots, including one in Simferopol, a substation in Dzhankoy — a key facility supplying electricity to temporarily occupied territories — as well as a Kasta-2E2 surveillance radar and a 96L6E radar of the S-400 air defense system in temporarily occupied Crimea.

https://militarnyi.com/en/news/difficult-night-for-russian-air-defense-defense-forces-hit-two-oil-depots-key-substation-and-two-radars-in-crimea/

 

[Andy_Ross]

Ukraine just blew up a Russian Submarine in Russia!!

Ukrainian attack drones have hit a Russian submarine in the port of Novorossiysk.

The Security Service of Ukraine said that they used Sub Sea Baby underwater drones for this purpose.

The submarine was a 636.3 Varshavyanka class submarine (Kilo in NATO classification).

https://militarnyi.com/en/news/ukrainian-underwater-drones-blow-up-russian-submarine/

 

[lobosrul5]

Vlad... you've lost another submarine?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Not sure now, I'm not seeing it reported anywhere else.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

On November 20, russian general Sergey Kuzovlev reports to a russian führer, Putin, that Kupiansk is completely under russian control.

On December 9, Putin awards Kuzovlev for “capturing” Kupiansk.

On December 12, President Zelensky sends greetings to Ukrainian soldiers from Kupiansk.

Sometimes, it feels like russians live in an alternative reality

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999665658498298326

I think someone might be being invited to admire an interesting view shortly.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Speaking of Putin ...

I want the ordinary citizens of Western countries to hear me. You are being persistently told that all your current difficulties are the result of hostile actions by vicious Russia, and that you must pay for the fight against a mythical Russian threat out of your own pockets. All of this is a lie. The truth is that the problems you are facing now are the result of years of actions by the ruling elites of your own countries—their mistakes, short-sightedness, and ambition. They do not think about how to improve your lives; they are obsessed with their own selfish interests and excessive profits - President Putin

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999889216205939008

Has Nige Liked it yet?

 

[lobosrul5]

Not sure now, I'm not seeing it reported anywhere else.

Its front page of https://kyivindependent.com/

 

[Andy_Ross]

Excellent

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump on Ukraine: "They've already lost the territory to be honest. The territory is lost. But in terms of security guarantee, we're working with Europe on it."

https://twitter.com/x/status/2000670886123262300

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Speaking of Putin ...

I want the ordinary citizens of Western countries to hear me. You are being persistently told that all your current difficulties are the result of hostile actions by vicious Russia, and that you must pay for the fight against a mythical Russian threat out of your own pockets. All of this is a lie. The truth is that the problems you are facing now are the result of years of actions by the ruling elites of your own countries—their mistakes, short-sightedness, and ambition. They do not think about how to improve your lives; they are obsessed with their own selfish interests and excessive profits - President Putin

https://twitter.com/x/status/1999889216205939008

In a way, Putain is right, the western political elite's pandering of Yeltsin and himself have lead us to this.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

My latest thought is even if Putin did win the war and effectively gain control over Ukraine, he'll end up inheriting several million very angry Ukrainians, both within the country and out. It won't be as bad as trying to hold Afghanistan, but it won't be a cakewalk either.

Ukraine is a country of approximately 35,000,000 people. Ruzzia doesn'thave the military capability to occupy it.

 

[Andy_Ross]

They will do their best to keep the population at a manageable level.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Turkish fighter jets shoot down 'out of control' drone over Black Sea

F-16 fighter planes were scrambled after the drone was detected, the Turkish defence ministry said in a statement late on Monday.

"To avoid any potential harm, it was shot down in a safe area outside of populated area," it said. The statement gave no further details of the location or time of the incident.

Turkish fighter jets shoot down 'out of control' drone over Black Sea

The incident comes after Ukrainian strikes on Russia's "shadow fleet" and concerns from Turkish politicians that Moscow's all-out war could widen.

www.euronews.com

 

[theprestige]

Bummer about the F-16s. Turkey is this close to having an operational air combat UAV. Here's hoping it's ready for live fire demonstrations, the next time such a shoot-down becomes necessary.

 

[arthwollipot]

They will do their best to keep the population at a manageable level.

They've done it before.

 

[theprestige]

Pogromming the cowed and overpowered population of a vassal state is very different from subjugating a population in revolt, with a clapped out army and a doomed economy.