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Ed The Fascism Checklist, Trump 2025

Andy_Ross said:
Kill them all, the answer to homelessness.

“Or involuntary lethal injection or something. Just kill them.” - Fox News Host during a segment about the homeless population

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966714947208888512
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Gotta give it to them. I had resolved to stop using the shocked reaction because everyone know the US is in a fascist autocracy now and so none of their escalating cruelties should surprise me anymore.
They managed to prove me wrong. Again.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Kill them all, the answer to homelessness.

“Or involuntary lethal injection or something. Just kill them.” - Fox News Host during a segment about the homeless population

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966714947208888512
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Jesus Mother ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ Christ, Kilmeade just throws that out there, and will then go on for days about the left fomenting violence.

◊◊◊◊ him, fire him.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Kill them all, the answer to homelessness.

“Or involuntary lethal injection or something. Just kill them.” - Fox News Host during a segment about the homeless population

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966714947208888512
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And this isn't some hardline provocateur saying this. It's just some goofball morning talk show host.

If Rush Limbaugh had said this thirty years ago, he probably would have been taken off the air.

That's how deep the psychosis in the Republican party now runs.
 
He's said he's sorry. So this can be put to bed and we will never speak of it again. Meanwhile wertyu654 on X has posted "What a terrible thing to say" and both his followers have seen his (wants us to call him "her") words, when will this hatred and bile from the left that is tearing the country apart be stopped, we have the 2nd Amendment for a reason.
 
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arthwollipot said:
That's often cited as a workaround for paywalls, but I've found that it only displays the part of the article that were visible without paying.
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I've had enough success with it that I always try it, it may be the ad & script blockers help with that as well. But it also takes 2 seconds to check *shrug*
 
Andy_Ross said:
The Nazis called them "unproductive groups"

Some of the 1st laws the Nazis passed were called "Sanitary Laws" meant to take the homeless, the Gypsies, the LGBTQ and those born disabled off the streets and into concentration camps for extermination.
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Lebensunwertes leben (I think I have the unwertes attached to the right leben there), or in English, life unworthy of life.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Gotta give it to them. I had resolved to stop using the shocked reaction because everyone know the US is in a fascist autocracy now and so none of their escalating cruelties should surprise me anymore.
They managed to prove me wrong. Again.
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If the US comes to its senses it's going to have to go through a derepublicanification programme that permanently excludes millions from civic life. The party has gone so far around the bent that very few of them are rescuable.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
If the US comes to its senses it's going to have to go through a derepublicanification programme that permanently excludes millions from civic life. The party has gone so far around the bent that very few of them are rescuable.
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You mean like denazification process in West Germany after the war? Actually, that worked quite well, despite many Nazis being left in important administrative positions, like judges, but it took two generations before Nazis became a force to be reckoned with again. And it would have taken longer if the German reunification had not happened.
 
steenkh said:
You mean like denazification process in West Germany after the war? Actually, that worked quite well, despite many Nazis being left in important administrative positions, like judges, but it took two generations before Nazis became a force to be reckoned with again. And it would have taken longer if the German reunification had not happened.
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More like what they were planning on doing before expediency and things like Paperclip kicked in. If denazification had run properly there would have been no burying things under the carpet and no room for myths like the Good German who couldn't have known and the clean Wehrmacht to develop.

The fact that West Germany didn't descend back into authoritarianism was down in large part due to luck.
 
Alex Jones has already claimed the throne vacated by Kirk for himself, and demands that Turning Point sponser an In Memoria tour with him at the helm.
 
johnny karate said:
Just a few days after a major right wing media personality advocated for homeless people to be killed, this happened:

13 people hurt in 2 mass shootings at Minneapolis homeless encampments on the same day
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The corrupt administration will blame it on lax blue city law enforcement, and the homeless themselves, if they can get away with it.

And given the media these days, they can.

Calling Charlie Kirk fascist = incitement to violence.

Calling for the genocide of homeless people = out of context free speech.


ETA: Make no mistake, if Trump comments on this at all it will be the city's fault for not bulldozing the tent camps and incarcerating the inhabitants.
 
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Should the Democrats gain any actual power the first thing they need to do is purge all institutions of the MAGA sycophants being put in place there. But given the speed with which Trump is removing all neutrality I doubt any potential Democratic government will be a lame duck as every other branch of governmet will just ignore them in favour of MAGA orders
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Should the Democrats gain any actual power the first thing they need to do is purge all institutions of the MAGA sycophants being put in place there. But given the speed with which Trump is removing all neutrality I doubt any potential Democratic government will be a lame duck as every other branch of governmet will just ignore them in favour of MAGA orders
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I think many employees have just ducked their heads to keep their jobs without actually being MAGA.
 
The Regime is using its powers to censor media, with Jimmy Kimmel being the latest casualty. At this pace, all network broadcasing will be state-controlled. Also, we can't call this fascist, because if we do, we'll be labeled a terrorist.
 
Every single American, and probably everyone else in the world, should be deeply troubled by the very thought of the government having influence over the media. The Fourth Estate being commandeered as a mouth piece for the First Estate is the kind of thing that should have us checking on our personal ammunition supplies.
 
Thermal said:
Every single American, and probably everyone else in the world, should be deeply troubled by the very thought of the government having influence over the media. The Fourth Estate being commandeered as a mouth piece for the First Estate is the kind of thing that should have us checking on our personal ammunition supplies.
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It really, really, really depends on the government. There's a reason why NPR used to be more reliable than most. It didn't have to be concerned about how advertisers might react to an article.
It is not as if capitalist media competition for profit has helped the USA against the fascist takeover, is it?
Capitalism and oligarchs owning the media seems to have accelerated the takeover, not slowed it down.
 
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Lukraak_Sisser said:
Sure, but all of the top is being replaced in a rapid pace. Look at the Fed for instance.
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I think steenkh is right. Right now, they are removing anybody in a leading position who objects to orders from their MAGA overlords.

People further down in the hierarchy are safe, for now, as long as they obey orders. In the FBI, some of them probably still think that they are safe because they are qualified investigators. They'll soon find out that this is no longer the point, so they will have to learn how to come up with justifications for the persecution of first and foremost "the radical left" instead of looking for objective evidence that a crime was committed or intended. That will be a tough transition for some of them, but they'll learn soon enough. It's not as if the FBI wasn't always good at going for "the radical left."

Even in Nazi Germany, each and every civil servant didn't have to join the party as long as they did what they were told to do.

There are probably also still a number of people in the NIH, the CDC and the FDA who think that their knowledge of science will keep them safe.
It's not what those institutions are about at this point: securing public health. At this point, these institutions are already less interested in science than the corresponding institutions in Nazi Germany were. In Nazi Germany, they at least still understood and agreed with the basic principles of the science of immunization. RFK Jr.'s NIH doesn't.
 
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Thermal said:
Every single American, and probably everyone else in the world, should be deeply troubled by the very thought of the government having influence over the media. The Fourth Estate being commandeered as a mouth piece for the First Estate is the kind of thing that should have us checking on our personal ammunition supplies.
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Government and media are two of the Seven Mountains. They've already pretty much wrapped up religion and are working very hard on family, education, and the arts. Business is going along with it just because it's profitable.
 
arthwollipot said:
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Apparently the Montreal Star, 4th February 1939
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More of the text here:

ChrisO_wiki on X, Sep 18, 2025
From the Montreal Star, February 4, 1939:
𝗛𝗲𝗿𝗿 𝗚𝗼𝗲𝗯𝗯𝗲𝗹𝘀 𝗔𝗻𝗴𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱 𝗕𝘆 𝗔𝗻𝘁𝗶-𝗡𝗮𝘇𝗶 𝗪𝗶𝘁
Comedians Banned For Humorous Remarks on Leaders
BERLIN, Feb. 4 (U.P.) When Propaganda Minister Paul Joseph Goebbels yesterday blasted Germany's cafe society, he called it "society rabble and intellectual snobs," for laughing at comedians who make Nazi leaders the butts of their jokes.
Goebbels turned his anger upon the "society rabble" after announcing that five German actors had been banned from the stage for publicly rediculing Nazi party and state functionaries. He denied that there was any lack of humor in Nazi Germany, but said that it must be kept "good-natured, decent and clean."
"There is plenty of humor in Germany, more than enough," he said in a three and one-half column editorial in the Nazi party's newspaper Voelkischer Beobachter. "But we do not permit ourselves to be ridiculed."
The five actors were Werner Finck, actor-author: Pete Sachse, vaudeville comedian, and Helmut Buth, Wilhelm Meissner and Manfred Dlugi, the latter three members of a vaudeville combination known as "The Three Rulands." The five were said to have been warned repeatedly to stop making jokes about the Nazis.
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Interesting and, frankly scary piece by ChrisArmitage1 (substack via FB).

"I researched every attempt to stop fascism in history. The success rate is 0%. Once they win elections, it's already too late.
In 1933, German conservatives thought they could control Hitler. Two years later, they were being executed in their own homes. I spent weeks researching this question, desperately looking for counter-examples, for hope, for any time in history where people successfully stopped fascists after they started winning elections.
Here's what I found: Once fascists win power democratically, they have never been removed democratically. Not once. Ever.
I know that sounds impossible. I kept digging, thinking surely someone, somewhere, stopped them. The actual record is so much worse than you think ...

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1333471682158161&id=100064860241186
 
I'm not quite as pessimistic about the inevitable fall of the US into the 4th Reich for the simple reason that a key requirement that is needed for the movers&shakers who make Fascism possible is not met: profit from going full Nazi.
Historically, the reason why Capitalists love Fascism is because it does away with Unions and provides some kind of slave labor. It also moves wealth from expropriations and conquest to the already too rich, with plenty of crumbs for the henchmen.
But in the US, the Thiels and Musks already have all the money and don't have to worry about Unions. And the US won't be able to plunder foreign countries to a degree necessary to keep the Ponzi Scheme that is every Fascist Regime going.

What we are seeing is less some Nazis trying to take over the US and rule with an Iron Fist over the World, and more opportunists who want to pick the corpse of the US clean while it is still warm, and the bugger off to their Secret Volcano Lair while the survivors go feral in a Mad Max world.
 
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I think that the collapse of the junta in Greece in the 1970s offers some hope that Trump's dictatorship won't last long:
Greek junta: Collapse (Wikipedia)
The collapse of the junta both ideologically and politically was triggered by a series of events which unfolded soon after Papadopoulos' attempt at liberalisation, with ideological collapse preceding its eventual political collapse. During and following this ill-fated process the internal political strains of the junta came to the fore and pitted the junta factions against each other, thus destroying the seemingly monolithic cohesion of the dictatorship.
This had the effect of seriously weakening the coherence of the political message and, consequently, the regime's credibility. Later events showed that this was a fatal blow, from which the junta never recovered. At the same time, during Papadopoulos' attempt at liberalisation, some of the junta constraints were removed from Greece's body politic. This led to demands for more freedoms, and political unrest, in a society well used to democratic action prior to the dictatorship.
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The "seemingly monolithic cohesion of the dictatorship" seems to be crumbling already - if it were ever actually there.
I also doubt that there was ever a dictator as unintelligent and ignorant as Trump. You have got to have been groomed in QAnon to still think that Trump is smart, knows what he's doing, and doing it for the good of the people, and only a minority of MAGAts were.

But a difference is that there was a pretty powerful opposition in Greece to the junta, unlike the Democratic Party in the USA.
Greek junta: Anti-junta movement (Wikipedia)
(I was at a Mikis Theodorakis concert in 1976, a powerful experience even though I didn't understand a word of what was being said or sung.)

The irony is that it would probably have been much easier to organize an effective resistance in the USA if Mike Pence had obeyed the orders from Trump in 2020. This is obviously counterfactual history, but I think Trump would have been dead or in jail at this point if Pence had joined MAGA 100% at that point.
 
sinnikal said:
Interesting and, frankly scary piece by ChrisArmitage1 (substack via FB).

"I researched every attempt to stop fascism in history. The success rate is 0%. Once they win elections, it's already too late.
In 1933, German conservatives thought they could control Hitler. Two years later, they were being executed in their own homes. I spent weeks researching this question, desperately looking for counter-examples, for hope, for any time in history where people successfully stopped fascists after they started winning elections.
Here's what I found: Once fascists win power democratically, they have never been removed democratically. Not once. Ever.I know that sounds impossible. I kept digging, thinking surely someone, somewhere, stopped them. The actual record is so much worse than you think ...

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1333471682158161&id=100064860241186
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Sounds like fear-mongering to me, didn't Spain transition back to a democracy peacefully?
 
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