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mass shooting at So Cal bar

Cain said:
What next? Gun-owners shouldn't be allowed to drink at home?
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You would think a bar is where you'd likely be attacked and need a gun to protect yourself. Maybe pool sticks will get replaced with pool noodles and glass beer bottles with sippy cups, too.
 
Cain said:
What next? Gun-owners shouldn't be allowed to drink at home?
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I would never have one of my guns out of the gun safe if I was drinking at home, or if I had guest over who were/had been drinking. Concept ain't that hard.
 
Thermal said:
You would think a bar is where you'd likely be attacked and need a gun to protect yourself. Maybe pool sticks will get replaced with pool noodles and glass beer bottles with sippy cups, too.
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Pool played with noodles should be an Olympic sport.
 
Thermal said:
You would think a bar is where you'd likely be attacked and need a gun to protect yourself.
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The reason you're likely to be attacked in a bar is because people in bars get drunk, or at least intoxicated enough to have compromised judgment. People in bars with compromised judgment AND a firearm will of course proceed to attack with their firearm, turning what would otherwise be a completely survivable fistfight incident into a mass shooting with fatalities instead.

I realize that many people defending guns in bars will insist that a drunken lout with a gun would easily be subdued or killed by other, not-drunken louts (or drunken not-louts), i.e., good guys with guns, before he has a chance to wound or kill anyone, because they live in a TV-Rambo fantasyland; but that is not actually a realistic scenario.
 
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Checkmite said:
The reason you're likely to be attacked in a bar is because people in bars get drunk, or at least intoxicated enough to have compromised judgment. People in bars with compromised judgment AND a firearm will of course proceed to attack with their firearm, turning what would otherwise be a completely survivable fistfight incident into a mass shooting with fatalities instead.

I realize that many people defending guns in bars will insist that a drunken lout with a gun would easily be subdued or killed by other, not-drunken louts (or drunken not-louts), i.e., good guys with guns, before he has a chance to wound or kill anyone, because they live in a TV-Rambo fantasyland; but that is not actually a realistic scenario.
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Exactly. That's why I need my gun to protect myself and others from the drunken louts who carry illegally.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Assault handguns.
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Don't laugh. There are ways of turning a automatic pistol into a de facto sub machine gun. We know the shooter had a illegal extended magazine, which is one of basics for turning a automatic pistol into a SMG.
BTW when referring to handguns, the term automatic is what is called "Semi Automatic" in long guns....don't ask me why.....
 
Thermal said:
You would think a bar is where you'd likely be attacked and need a gun to protect yourself. Maybe pool sticks will get replaced with pool noodles and glass beer bottles with sippy cups, too.
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Well I have certainly been in dive bars that serve drinks in plastics for exactly that reason.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Many gun friendly states don't allow carrying of guns into bars and nightclubs for the obvious reasons of alcohol and firearms not mixing well. .
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Which goes back to the ordances aganst wearing guns that Dodge City, Abilene, and the other cow towns had during the era of the long Cattle Drives from Texas to the railheads in Kansas.
They knew the cowboys would get drunk and get into fights letting off steam after the long drive, and taking away their guns would prevent a lot of shootings.
Hollywood to the contrary, there was not that much Gunplay in the Cowtowns. A lot of rowdy behavior and a lot of fistfights, but not that many shootings thanks to the ordances.
 
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