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Cont: Greta Thunberg - brave campaigner or deeply disturbed - part 3

theprestige said:
Overland crossing points are also commonly called ports of entry. Obviously Greta should have sailed to a port in Israel or Egypt, and transshipped her aid package from there to the nearest border crossing into Gaza. But that would have been a waste of all those donation dollars. The whole point of her boat ride was to make a big production of flouting the blockade, and getting stopped by Israel. There was never even any meaningful amount of aid in play.

It was a scam, my dude. A thunbergskam, if you will.
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Why not allow a sea port of entry for aid, actually in Gaza? That way folks dont have to go through Israel and the IDFascists.
 
Hercules56 said:
So check the boat for weapons then let it continue on to Gaza.
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Easier to just let the boat unload its cargo in a supervised port, and let it go back where it came from. That way you don't have to search the entire boat for hidden compartments and whatnot.

Things might be different if there were a reputable aid agency raising many tons of aid, willing to work with Israel on the security aspect, and with a good case for delivering straight to Gaza dockside. Note that the Biden Administration tried to set up something along these lines, and failed miserably.

I mean, look: The IDF is not an on-demand inspection service for anyone who wants to take a boat ride to Gaza in the middle of a war. The Scam Flotilla is pretending that's a thing because they're scumbags acting in bad faith, with no intention of ever getting any meaningful amount of aid into Gaza.
 
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theprestige said:
What was the benefit to Israel, of letting a symbolic aid delivery run the blockade and deliver their cargo without being searched or going through the established ports of entry?
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huge potential PR benefit, proving that they don't block aid and food.
And it's not like the amount would have mattered, giving what little this smaller boat could carry.

And it would wash of some of the stink of the attack of Israel on the Freedom Flotilla in 2010
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
... in tiny amounts and incapable to protecting the people in need.
how can you deliver food when you keep on killing the people trying to pick it up?
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I'm not getting into major debates on this issue, for reasons you may understand. I merely wanted to point out that Arth's statement was incorrect.
You have your conclusions, and I have mine. Further discussion of them is pointless.
 
www.theguardian.com

Witnesses describe ‘horror’ after Israeli forces fire at Palestinians waiting for aid trucks

At least 59 people killed and hundreds wounded in Khan Younis as they sought food supplies, says Gaza health ministry
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

there is only one conclusion an honest person could draw.

Listen to the people on the ground, to the aid workers and doctors, see the pictures.

www.doctorswithoutborders.org

Gaza: Open letter to EU heads of state

MSF International President Dr. Christos Christou and Secretary General Christopher Lockyear demand action to end the suffering in Gaza.
www.doctorswithoutborders.org www.doctorswithoutborders.org

apnews.com

The UN says there's 'full-blown famine' in northern Gaza. What does that mean?

The head of the United Nations World Food Program says northern Gaza has entered “full-blown famine” after nearly seven months of war between Israel and Hamas.
apnews.com apnews.com

news.un.org

UN General Assembly adopts Gaza ceasefire resolution by overwhelming majority

Meeting in emergency session on Thursday in New York, the UN General Assembly overwhelmingly adopted a resolution demanding an immediate, unconditional and lasting ceasefire in Gaza.
news.un.org news.un.org
 
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Cosmic Yak said:
Israel is already letting aid into Gaza.
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As bait for a trap. Not as aid.

Herd them here, herd them there, bomb them in safe zones, shoot them when picking up flour, funnel them through cattle-style fences and then shoot them, kill all aid workers who could help them, kill all journalists who might tell on the Zionists. La, la, la, glory to Israel!
 
The Great Zaganza said:
huge potential PR benefit, proving that they don't block aid and food.
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Please quantify the hugeness. Please quantify the potential that this hugeness will be realized. Please name the institutions that would manifest this PR benefit. Please describe in practical, material terms, what these institutions would do to benefit Israel, if such a huge potential PR benefit were realized.

The Great Zaganza said:
And it's not like the amount would have mattered, giving what little this smaller boat could carry.
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Exactly. This smaller boat was never intended to matter. It was always intended to appear to matter, to Iran's useful idiots. Don't fall for the Thunbergskam.

The Great Zaganza said:
And it would wash of some of the stink of the attack of Israel on the Freedom Flotilla in 2010
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No it wouldn't. You would not abate your grudge against Israel for that attack one iota, if they'd let this showboat run their blockade.
 
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