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Split Thread Trump-Kennedy center sues artist for cancelling because of name change

acbytesla said:
I've watched the Kennedy Center Honors show for decades. With George W Bush and his father before him as well as Clinton and Obama in the audience. It never was political before Trump. What matters was the contribution the honoree made to the performing arts. Hell, Barbara Streisand was honored in 2008 and George W. Bush was there smiling in the audience. It also honored conservative icons like Jimmy Stewart, Charlton Heston, and Clint Eastwood.
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Sheesh..

You are so clueless! What matters is the God-King Diapered J Trump has the spotlight and wins at least 3 peace prizes during every event!

It's all about him, or does he need to put a huge neon sign on the roof of his Palace of Arts with his name on it too?
 
JayUtah said:
And on the other hand, there may be lots of large corporations and billionaires who will now want to contribute to a Donald J. Trump Center for the Performing Arts, just as they're lining up to contribute to the Donald J. Trump Memorial Ballroom being built over the rubble of the East Wing. In trying to divine Pres. Trump's motives, keeping in mind that it's all just a big grift to him seems prudent.
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And don't forget the rich that want to buy a pardon...
 
You really have to hand it to America's new fascist government. A South Park writer registered the website domain names TrumpKennedyCenter.org and TrumpKennedyCenter.com in August. He created a website that parodies the hijacking of the John F Kennedy Memorial Performing Art Center. Of course, this was not acceptable to Dur Fuhrer and his merry band of sycophants. It's now blocked. This of course ignores the First Amendment and the right to freedom of speech.

But you can get an idea of what it was like on this short YouTube video.


Heil Trump! Long live the Fourth Reich! :gaslighting
 
JayUtah said:
Which to the right only proves that all such artists are Trump-hating liberals who booked the Kennedy Center only because of its obvious far-left politics tied to the Biden and Kennedy crime families blah blah blah. The first concert I attended at the Kennedy Center was some visiting orchestra playing the music of that arch-liberal Anton Bruckner.

I'm puzzled at why Pres. Trump's supporters think this is just a benign name change that shouldn't bother artists or patrons. That's certainly not the Trump regime's position. Trump is expressly trying to repurpose the Center according to his own aesthetic (musically and architecturally) which for some reason cannot be separated from the regime's obsession over its own notion of political correctness. His supporters see it as perfectly normal that a sitting President should rename national monuments after himself, instead of that being obviously creepy and narcissistic. If someone has a completely normal reaction to such displays of apparent psychopathy, they're dismissed as "deranged"—just like ordinary people who balk at the sudden hyper-politicization of their previously apolitical institutions are decried as inappropriate "political activists."

As a musician, actor, and other such pursuits I've been invited (nay, even hired) to perform at venues owned and operated by the Mormon church. I've never been made to feel unwelcome or uncomfortable, nor has it been even remotely implied that my participation endorses the church's religious or political messages. The theater just up the street from me sports a former Mormon prophet as its major patron; a handsome oil painting of him hangs in the lobby. Yet this doesn't stop the theater from presenting productions with themes that are thoroughly in contrast with Mormon values. When The Book of Mormon musical was staged, the church just took it in stride and bought advertising in the playbill. Maybe serious people don't want to be associated in any way with a toddler suddenly throwing a self-centered tantrum. If the toddler is making an otherwise unrelated organization a pawn in that tantrum, then those people will be given little choice to but to treat the organization the way the toddler is demanding it be treated.

The arts have previously coexisted with politics by maintaining respectfully blind eyes in both directions. In the case of the Kennedy Center, this detente has succeeded for decades through many political vicissitudes. The sudden shift in the attitudes of prospective artists happens to coincide with the sudden decision that the Kennedy Center constitutes some national artistic and architectural crisis that only Donald Trump can fix. Trump has convinced himself that he is the epitome of all good taste. But the fact remains that people who go to Lee Greenwood concerts don't generally want to do so in a marble building with plush carpets and chandeliers. If the Kennedy Center wants to maintain patronage, it can't do so by bluntly alienating the people that enliven the patronage.
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I would say the Mormons clearly understand that when someone is poking fun at you the best thing to do is laugh it off. It's not like Trump was the first President to have jokes made about them, by late night shows or SNL, but only Trump felt the need to turn getting the like of Kimmel and Colbert taken off the air into a political crusade and treating jokes as acts of political violence against him.
 
JayUtah said:
Yes, I take back what I said. It makes more sense to believe that Trump is rebranding the center in expectation of wild success after the departure of all the woke.
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Sellout success like nobody ever saw before. The silent majority will have tears in their eyes as they are now able to take their kids to a concert for the first time, free of the degenerate art, or so-called art, for which we must all blame Biden.
 
arthwollipot said:
It's not blocked for me. Is it blocked only for people in the US? So much for free speech.
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Likewise (in Canada). The New York Times has an article on the domain: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/01/us/politics/trump-kennedy-center-website-toby-morton.html, publish 12:42 Jan 1st - no mention of blocking therein.

On the other hand, The Guardian - which leans left - has a article detailing accusations of "plundering" (their word, details in article are of low or free rates for Trump-friendly organizations like FIFA). https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/01/trump-kennedy-center-canceled-programs
 
arthwollipot said:
What error do you get?
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This site can’t be reached
The connection was reset.
Try:

Checking the connection
ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
Check your Internet connection
Check any cables and reboot any routers, modems, or other network devices you may be using.

I've done all those things and have no issues connecting to seemingly everything else.
 
acbytesla said:
Checking the connection
ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
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This is purely a network error, nothing to do with the cache. Something somewhere on the network between you and the desired server is sending back a packet with the RST (reset) bit set, effectively closing the connection. The typical way to diagnose it would be something like the traceroute utility to see how far through the internet switching maze your traffic is getting. But as you say, it may not be informative. And yes, it could be happening to you and not to others in the thread according to such things as firewall policies. If someone has blacklisted the domain as it applies to some tool that applies to you (or your ISP, etc.) then this is a plausible error to get in that situation.

As for the domain squatting issue, it's not straightforward. Domains pertaining to an existing trademark are usually subject to compulsory relinquishment. But if you innocently own a domain that some company later decides it wants (i.e., because it newly starts using that identity in commerce), the original owner prevails. This is how the legal practice of domain speculation works. Conversely if the domain is being held in bad faith, it may have to be relinquished. Generally "bad faith" includes trying to impersonate or disrupt another business, but this is limited to commercial activity, not satire. While "trump" could be considered an existing trademark, you can still register domains like "trump-sucks.org" without violating intellectual property law or ICANN regulations. And since these are .com and .org TLDs, they are not subject to regulations on government-oriented domains.
 
JayUtah said:
Checking the connection
ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
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This is purely a network error, nothing to do with the cache. Something somewhere on the network between you and the desired server is sending back a packet with the RST (reset) bit set, effectively closing the connection.
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The problem might also be a web server "crash" or overload on their side. (Perhaps too many people trying to access the web server at the same time that the server drops connections.)
 
JayUtah said:
This is purely a network error, nothing to do with the cache.
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The reason I said it might be a cache problem is that the issue you describe can occur and generate an error message, and the browser caches the error page instead of the target page. So when the network connection is restored, the browser will still feed you the cached error, because the page itself hasn't changed since the last time it was accessed. I've seen this many times before.

That apparently wasn't the problem this time, though. I was wrong.
 
In this case the error message isn’t a page. It’s being detected and reported by the browser itself. It’s being displayed in the content area and may be coded internally as HTML. But If the browser is caching errors it generates, I would want a sidebar with that developer to find out why.
 
The composer of the musical Wicked has said he will not appear at the Kennedy Center after its board voted to include US President Donald Trump's name in the name of the venue.

Stephen Schwartz said in a statement that appearing at the centre "has now become an ideological statement", adding: "As long as that remains the case, I will not appear there."

But Richard Grenell, the center's president, wrote on X, external that the reports of him pulling out of a gala in May were "totally bogus" and that he had never been signed to attend.

www.bbc.co.uk

Wicked composer latest to cancel Kennedy Center gig after Trump name change

Stephen Schwartz says he will not appear at the arts venue as it "has now become an ideological statement".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Andy_Ross said:
The composer of the musical Wicked has said he will not appear at the Kennedy Center after its board voted to include US President Donald Trump's name in the name of the venue.

Stephen Schwartz said in a statement that appearing at the centre "has now become an ideological statement", adding: "As long as that remains the case, I will not appear there."

But Richard Grenell, the center's president, wrote on X, external that the reports of him pulling out of a gala in May were "totally bogus" and that he had never been signed to attend.

www.bbc.co.uk

Wicked composer latest to cancel Kennedy Center gig after Trump name change

Stephen Schwartz says he will not appear at the arts venue as it "has now become an ideological statement".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Schwartz had been listed on the KC website as the host of the Washington National Opera gala in May, so it's not difficult to figure out who is lying.
 
Andy_Ross said:
The composer of the musical Wicked has said he will not appear at the Kennedy Center after its board voted to include US President Donald Trump's name in the name of the venue.

Stephen Schwartz said in a statement that appearing at the centre "has now become an ideological statement", adding: "As long as that remains the case, I will not appear there."

But Richard Grenell, the center's president, wrote on X, external that the reports of him pulling out of a gala in May were "totally bogus" and that he had never been signed to attend.

www.bbc.co.uk

Wicked composer latest to cancel Kennedy Center gig after Trump name change

Stephen Schwartz says he will not appear at the arts venue as it "has now become an ideological statement".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Joe Kennedy III, a former US House of Representatives member and grandnephew of the late president, said the venue was "a living memorial to a fallen president and named for President Kennedy by federal law".

"It can no sooner be renamed than can someone rename the Lincoln Memorial, no matter what anyone says," he added.
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I think he must mean the Donald J. Trump and Lincoln Memorial.
 
Mojo said:
I think he must mean the Donald J. Trump and Lincoln Memorial.
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Think about all the tourists who'll be flooding in to see the Trump Hover Dam, Mount Trumpmore (after it's been 'updated'), The Grand Trumpyon & take in a show on Trumpway, New Trump City. After they've spent all their money (or lost it in Las Trumpas.. Okay maybe not) they can be deported home or to the nearest South American Murder Prison (New venues opening this season!)
 
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