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The Truth about RFK Jr

grunion said:
The New York Times has a feature titled "The Rise Of The Crunchy Teen Wellness Influencer" (paywall) discussing the boom in the "health-conscious" high school student market and the influencers that cater to victimize them. Self-proclaimed adherents of the "Make America Healthy Again" movement.

As if eating disorders and food obsession was not already epidemic.





How the ◊◊◊◊ are we supposed to get through to these kids?​

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You’re not going to unfortunately.
I sat through a dinner with these sorts that were now adults (well, older, anyway).
My rebuffing of their stupid ideas was explained to them by “ehocking doesn’t believe in these things).
I corrected this by pointing out that belief was exactly what I was objecting to. All of them were “wellness” advocates and most sold products or services in that industry, everything from cupping, reiki and acupuncture to selling “natural” vitamins and running “wellness centres”. I was totally outnumbered at the table.
 
dudalb said:
Oh, some Trump voters are stupid, calling them all stupid is simply wrong.
A lot chose Trump as the lesser of two evils....and have found out how wrong that is. THat is different then being a CUlt member.
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His approval rating is still around 40%, that's a lot of cult members and a proportion of the 60% may just be reluctant to express their support for Trump.
 
dudalb said:
Oh, some Trump voters are stupid, calling them all stupid is simply wrong.
A lot chose Trump as the lesser of two evils....and have found out how wrong that is. THat is different then being a CUlt member.
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Not at all I think they like what they see, as they are getting exactly what they voted for.
 
The Independent wrote, "Ms Means, a "wellness influencer" and close ally of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., lacks an active medical licence."
The New York Times wrote, "Dr. Means has echoed some of Mr. Kennedy’s skepticism of vaccines, calling on the new administration to study their “cumulative effects” and to weaken liability protections offered to vaccine makers as a way of encouraging them to develop new shots. “There is growing evidence that the total burden of the current extreme and growing vaccine schedule is causing health declines in vulnerable children,” she wrote in an October newsletter. Child health experts are adamantly opposed to trimming the list of recommended immunizations, warning that such changes would trigger outbreaks of deadly infectious diseases. And they have noted that the government makes available the safety data used to license vaccines and the safety data generated after they are put into use."
 
MSNBC stated, "While U.S. surgeons general tend to have extensive experience in medicine and public health, Means was described by the AP as a “wellness influencer” who dropped out of her surgical residency program and has no experience in public health administration. The same report noted that Means has supplemented her income by selling “dietary supplements, creams, teas and other products sponsored on her social media accounts.”"
 
Chris_Halkides said:
MSNBC stated, "While U.S. surgeons general tend to have extensive experience in medicine and public health, Means was described by the AP as a “wellness influencer” who dropped out of her surgical residency program and has no experience in public health administration. The same report noted that Means has supplemented her income by selling “dietary supplements, creams, teas and other products sponsored on her social media accounts.”"
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Bobby told Trump she was a good choice - Trump doesn't know her - and that is what he said.
 
“There is growing evidence that the total burden of the current extreme and growing vaccine schedule is causing health declines in vulnerable children,” she wrote in an October newsletter.
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Citation?

We're so ◊◊◊◊◊◊.
 
Astonishingly enough, Trump’s original pick for Surgeon General, who he saw on Fox News, was relatively sane and was pro-vaccine. Presumably that’s why he had to replace her with this idiot.
 
Resume said:
Citation?
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I know that this was not addressed to me directly, but I found a helpful link from 2002: "Infants today actually receive fewer substances in vaccines that stimulate an immune response than they did 40 or 100 years ago While there has been a substantial increase in the number of routine childhood vaccines over the past several decades, “Parents who are concerned about the growing number of vaccinations recommended for their children may take comfort in knowing that children are actually exposed to fewer antigens -- proteins that stimulate an immune response -- in the vaccines they receive today than in the past,” says Dr. Offit. “Vaccine formulations have been refined and simplified over the years. Although we currently give children more vaccines than in the past, the actual number of antigens they receive has declined significantly. Whereas previously one vaccine, smallpox, contained about 200 antigens, now the 11 routinely recommended childhood vaccines contain fewer than 130 antigens combined.”" This article also noted that infants can respond to 10,000 vaccines at once.
 
MedPageToday reported, "During an interview with Dr. Phil in late April, HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made the bold claim that "the mumps part" of the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine "has never worked."" They went on to note that, ""Mumps was the most common cause of acquired deafness in the U.S.," Offit said. "Now, homes for the deaf have closed." Mumps cases fell from more than 150,000 in 1968 to 357 in 2024, according to CDC data."

There was a whistleblower lawsuit concerning Merck, and Secretary Kennedy claims it was "thrown out on a technicality." I don't know the specifics well enough to comment on the merits of the case. Here is a link on the waning of the vaccine's effectiveness over time that has some good general information.
 
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HHS truly is a case of the Lunatics running the asylum.
I hope all those GOPers in the Senate who obviously did not like or trust RFK but voted for him anyway to keep Dear Leader Happy will be proud of themselves when the invitable health disasters start happening.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
Not all Trump voters and not all anti vaxxers are stupid. Some have agile minds but not open minds. How else can we explain the facile (and sometimes detailed) anti vaxxer arguments that take thought and time to rebut? I am not at all cool with kids or anyone else dying of preventable diseases, such as measles, but I think provaxxers have to figure out how to engage better, as I have touched upon before.

I know that your question is largely rhetorical, but I will offer Daniel Dennett's ideas as better than anything I can think of ATM:
"« Dennett synthesizes the steps:

How to compose a successful critical commentary:
  1. You should attempt to re-express your target’s position so clearly, vividly, and fairly that your target says, “Thanks, I wish I’d thought of putting it that way.”
  2. You should list any points of agreement (especially if they are not matters of general or widespread agreement).
  3. You should mention anything you have learned from your target.
  4. Only then are you permitted to say so much as a word of rebuttal or criticism."
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A Gish Gallop takes almost no thought to set up, yet a long time to refute. It's a lot easier to spout a string of bovine excrement than it is to explain why it is so.
 
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