Also it’s not at all certain that the rifle is in fact pointed at his head. It may be an unloaded weapon pointed well off to the side, but the picture just makes it look like he has the gun pointed at his head.
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You are hopeless, heck even Mark apreciated that and we hardly agree on politics.
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It looks like the gun is pointing just to his left and not his side, you also note his head is slightly turned left as well. So I agree, Gore is not looking down the barrel.
How do we know it's Gore anyway?
I don't care if what you guys post. 2 WRONGS and by that I mean 2 VPs, don't make a right. Gun safety is everyone's business. There isn't any darn "inherant risk". Like the NRA says, "Guns don't kill people, Vice Presidents kill people."
Mind you, I wouldn't have minded seeing another VP (named Quayle) shot!
Mind you, I wouldn't have minded seeing another VP (named Quayle) shot!
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Thanks for the answers Arkan. I had no idea there were so many shotgun gauges. So what's the deal with hunting with the smaller gauges? Is it to be more sporting? kind of like fishing with smaller test lines?
link on shotgun sizes
http://www.sizes.com/sports/shotguns.htm
Wow, when the use of the word peppered came up I had imagined something considerably less nasty. Would lead and iron have been nearly the same or would iron have been much less?
How about damange to the environment from scattering lead all over the place? And what about the possibility of human consumption? Maybe those are such minor effects that it isn't necessary to worry about them.
Fair enough, so given the scenario below Cheny may not be to blame at all?
The people that Cheney is aware of are clearly out of his firing lane. The sun is low in the sky. Cheney draws a bead on a quail just rising out of the bush. Cheney doesn't see an individual that walks into his firing lane. Cheney fires at the quail and some of the shot hits the individual who has walked into his firing lane but whose appearance is obscured because of the low light conditions and nearby brush.
Do you have anything to say about what procedures are governing this kind of situation? In situations where hunters from different parties are shooting what are the procedures that are supposed to prevent this kind of accident?
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No. In that scenario (which indeed seems to be the developing consensus of what happened) Cheney is less at fault than in some other situations, but the shooter is always always always responsible for what comes out of his weapon.
The other guy could have been from another hunting party entirely, known about the approaching Cheney party and not made himself known -- certainly he'd be partly culpable but it's still Cheney's gun. About the only instance I can imagine where the shooter isn't responsible is if someone were to wear a deer costume.
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Yeah, that really gums up the works.
I suppose Cheney could offer his heart to give his friend for a transplant, except for the obvious problem.
I've seen people pack deer out of the woods on their back before.
In Texas, you are not required to report hunting accidents that do not require treatment. Doctors are required to report any gunshot wound that comes to their attention to the local police.
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The report is dated Monday at 3pm...
The national press has their undies in a knot because the local paper reported it before they did.
eta: I swear I can read Cheney's Drivers License # in that report, despite it being blacked out.
And changed because I didn't read it correctly the first time. 
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This one required treatment (even more so now), and it was, according to the news, reported 14 hours after the accident. It's no Chappaquiddick (spelling
), but to avoid any ... speculations, I think it was very silly not to make it public immediately. Unless, of course, alcohol was involved. (See? Speculations ....)Paulhoff
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While it happened on Saturday ...
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Which proves he was so drunk it took 2 days to sober up!
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I would never think such a nasty thought ... would I? Maybe 1 day?Which proves he was so drunk it took 2 days to sober up!
Seriously, just the fact that it's all over the news right now (in a not so favourable way) shows that the handling was third-class. Unless, of course, alcohol was involved. (See? Speculations ....)