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Also those who have used Twitter to post evidence of crimes against humanity say in occupied Ukraine or Syria

Also, Twitter's been useful in helping expose oppressive regimes as what they are across the world, not just in occupied territories.

There's lots of issues with Twitter and lots of real concerns about the power that it's effectively wielded. Even so, just making it suddenly die is only a win for those who actually hate free speech and the power of the people.
 
Strange not seen that at all.

I have seen logic for that stance though, and I don't think it's hard to follow. Musk gave some of the most problematic speakers hope of having their hostile propaganda, terrorist recruitment, brazen lies, violence incitement, and so on become unrestricted and possibly even amplified. That the problematic speakers are pretty overwhelmingly aligned with the right wing and scream bloody murder at any hint of having their voices suppressed, no matter the reasoning, and actively foster a culture of eternally being the victim creates a de facto political stance. Add on the 1st amendment fraud being spread by those groups to try to prop up all the rest of the frauds that end up comprising the core of right wing propaganda and, well, bam, Elon's political stance is relevant. Only because right wing propaganda and fraud are inseparable these days, though.

As for the concern for Twitter's future, of course, though... no one was particularly concerned about its future before Elon's BS because it wasn't in immediate serious danger and other concerns were far more of note. It's not that "liberals" suddenly changed positions, but rather more that old difference in focus between people and issues/actions. For those who tend to claim to be conservative, it's more likely to be all about the people. For those who tend to claim to be liberal, it's more likely to be about issues/action. "Conservative" - Twitter is bad! Destroy it or bend it to our will! "Liberal" - Twitter has serious problems and issues that absolutely should be addressed, but the problems are more fundamentally human problems and it's not actually about Twitter directly. So work to reduce the harms being done and increase the benefits provided to humanity.
 
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Sounds like he's turning more and more into Mr. Rumbold by the minute. Not just disaster, but bungled disaster. Can't even let the disaster alone to disast itself, he has to keep helping it get worse!

Is there another Mr Rumbold than the one in Are You Being Served? Because, if not, it's likely that only the older British forum members will get that.
 
I see one or both of the following happening as a result of this debacle:

1. Twitter will cease operating in large swathes of the world as it runs afoul of local laws with no intention of complying with them.
2. Twitter folds completely.

This whole thing is functioning mainly as another vector of attack on decency and normalcy by the various deplorable actors on the political right, all while demonstrating the very acute problem of oligarchs in the West.
 
What’s going to happen on the 10th floor?

Elon Musk said:
Anyone who actually writes software, please report to the 10th floor at 2 pm today.

Before doing so, please email a bullet point summary of what your code commands have achieved in the past ~6 months, along with up to 10 screenshots of the most salient lines of code.

Thanks,
Elon
Well, if I had received that email in a company I worked for, I would assume there's going to be some sort of mass firing accompanied by public humiliation.

By the way, I've worked in the IT industry for over 30 years and I've never heard anybody who actually knows what they are talking about use the phrase "code commands" before. Maybe it's a Twitter thing.
 
Unfortunately, I have just thought of a boring explanation. It should have said "code commits" and so it's probably just a typo.

Thanks - I was curious about that as well, thinking it might have been an internal twitter term - that sounds like it.

You'd almost think he was trying to create as much confusion as possible.
 
By the way, I've worked in the IT industry for over 30 years and I've never heard anybody who actually knows what they are talking about use the phrase "code commands" before. Maybe it's a Twitter thing.


In other sources I've seen this quoted as "code commits" instead, which makes a lot more sense in context.
 
Sink or Swim?

This thing has been bugging me. It doesn't seem to square up, this insane manner in which he's setting fire to boatloads of his own money. One theory might be that he's set out to destroy the outfit altogether, given his ideology and everything; but even that doesn't make sense, because why do it in this manner? He could just as well have simply bought it and then delegated the management of it to someone else, including with instructions to have it unravel, but in such a way that he gets some portion of his investment back --- and all of that without lifting a finger himself, other than having signed the original check.

I suppose we'll get to know his actual motivations only when Musk himself volunteers that, in an interview or book or whatever, or someone he's confided in does that, but meantime, here's one theory (with zero basis in any concrete evidence, let me make that clear) that I think might make some sense:

I'm sure we've all, in our career, come across sink-or-swim situations. Depending on the nature of our work, these would either be very rare occasions, or else for some an uncomfortably frequent thing; but I for instance can recall one such instance, where it was a very crucial sink-or-swim thing. So when you jump in in the deep, because that's the only thing you can do at that point, you either succeed wildly, or else you manage to somehow say afloat, or else you sink under. (In my case I'd been fortunate, that time, in having ended up actually succeeding, and in fact setting a precedent about ...well, without going into personal details, certain key research protocols.)

So this guy, Musk, he shot off his big mouth about Twitter. Had too big of an ego to retreat. Like a fool he waded in on to a business he hasn't the first clue how to run. And took it on in a sink-or-swim spirit.

Now he's a complete *******, psychotically lacking in empathy, psychotically uncaring of other people's lives and situations, which is what dictated how he went about attempting to swim. But behind it all, I suggest, he was actually trying to make it work, in a field he lacked experience in, and that he was too proud to seek assistance in (whether from the earlier CEO et al, or from other consultants --- real capable professionals, not randos on Twitter). As it happens he's sinking, and sinking deep and fast.

This is the only narrative that makes sense of what's happening there.


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So this doesn't necessarily speak to the rest of what he's done. That is, it might, but it doesn't necessarily. It does speak to his cluelessness, but only to his cluelessness in this particular situation --- although again, it may extend to other areas as well, but not necessarily.

I think that makes sense, more sense than that he's completely crazy, or generally completely incompetent, or that he's set out to deliberately "sink" the place.
 
You got to love that the version of this painting Musk in the best light possible is that he lit $44 billion on fire to stick it to the libs.
 
You got to love that the version of this painting Musk in the best light possible is that he lit $44 billion on fire to stick it to the libs.

Has anyone worked out how big a pyramid he could have built if he'd spent all that money on bricks instead? Then it could have been a tourist attraction and made money.
 
This thing has been bugging me. It doesn't seem to square up, this insane manner in which he's setting fire to boatloads of his own money. One theory might be that he's set out to destroy the outfit altogether, given his ideology and everything; but even that doesn't make sense, because why do it in this manner? He could just as well have simply bought it and then delegated the management of it to someone else, including with instructions to have it unravel, but in such a way that he gets some portion of his investment back --- and all of that without lifting a finger himself, other than having signed the original check.

I suppose we'll get to know his actual motivations only when Musk himself volunteers that, in an interview or book or whatever, or someone he's confided in does that, but meantime, here's one theory (with zero basis in any concrete evidence, let me make that clear) that I think might make some sense:

I'm sure we've all, in our career, come across sink-or-swim situations. Depending on the nature of our work, these would either be very rare occasions, or else for some an uncomfortably frequent thing; but I for instance can recall one such instance, where it was a very crucial sink-or-swim thing. So when you jump in in the deep, because that's the only thing you can do at that point, you either succeed wildly, or else you manage to somehow say afloat, or else you sink under. (In my case I'd been fortunate, that time, in having ended up actually succeeding, and in fact setting a precedent about ...well, without going into personal details, certain key research protocols.)

So this guy, Musk, he shot off his big mouth about Twitter. Had too big of an ego to retreat. Like a fool he waded in on to a business he hasn't the first clue how to run. And took it on in a sink-or-swim spirit.

Now he's a complete *******, psychotically lacking in empathy, psychotically uncaring of other people's lives and situations, which is what dictated how he went about attempting to swim. But behind it all, I suggest, he was actually trying to make it work, in a field he lacked experience in, and that he was too proud to seek assistance in (whether from the earlier CEO et al, or from other consultants --- real capable professionals, not randos on Twitter). As it happens he's sinking, and sinking deep and fast.

This is the only narrative that makes sense of what's happening there.


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So this doesn't necessarily speak to the rest of what he's done. That is, it might, but it doesn't necessarily. It does speak to his cluelessness, but only to his cluelessness in this particular situation --- although again, it may extend to other areas as well, but not necessarily.

I think that makes sense, more sense than that he's completely crazy, or generally completely incompetent, or that he's set out to deliberately "sink" the place.

One thing you seem to be forgetting is that Musk really didn't want to buy Twitter. Or at least, he had serious buyer's remorse soon after signing the contract. He spent most of the time between May and November trying to get out of the contract and he failed.

He is clueless because he had no plan. He thought, until quite recently, that he would not be buying Twitter. He thought he was smarter than Twitter's previous directors and their lawyers (perhaps his own lawyers too) and he was wrong.

So why is he doing what he is doing now?

I think I would discount revenge because the people who did this to him are long gone with their severances and their money for the shares that they sold for about 30% more than the value of Twitter. Also, the deal was financed partly by loans leveraging Tesla shares and partly by people who cut up journalists in their embassies.

I think it is panic. He has to find a billion dollars per year in profits to service the loans he took out to buy the company and he has no clue about how to do that. He's never been in the position before of running a company of employees who have not signed up to his vision or his employment terms and he doesn't have the skills to do the job. It's that simple.
 
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