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Everyone Who Protests in America Is Allied With Iraq

Biker Babe said:

They have their views and you have yours what's the problem?

They both say stupid things that tend to polarize the discussions and eliminate the middle.
 
Jedi Knight said:


It is laughable. Maybe if the Christian Identity folks said they were "gay" they wouldn't be touched for their subversive activity like the San Francisco Saddomonites.

JK

Why do I get the feeling that now I know what this is really all about? Bear in mind that there are a lot of straight, old, grumpy people who are not at all enthusiastic about this "war".

Also, since I've worked quite a bit in music and theatre, I've known quite a few gay people. I know maybe 1 or two who might be "communist". I know a lot of very sincere capitalists among that group. In fact, most of the folks I know who might fit your bill (including opposition to this war) I would have to classify as capitalists, some of them of the nearly rabid variety.

Btw, what do you think of the cops herding all the protestors into one block in Seattle last weekend? Why would they do that?
 
jj said:


Why do I get the feeling that now I know what this is really all about? Bear in mind that there are a lot of straight, old, grumpy people who are not at all enthusiastic about this "war".

Also, since I've worked quite a bit in music and theatre, I've known quite a few gay people. I know maybe 1 or two who might be "communist". I know a lot of very sincere capitalists among that group. In fact, most of the folks I know who might fit your bill (including opposition to this war) I would have to classify as capitalists, some of them of the nearly rabid variety.

Btw, what do you think of the cops herding all the protestors into one block in Seattle last weekend? Why would they do that?

The point I was making went right over your head.

If it were Christian Identity people storming across San Francisco with signs that said: "We support the troops only if they shoot their officers", how long would it be before the leftist media hopped all over that?

The NAACP, the FBI, the National Guard, Delta Force, the Secret Service and every other cop and soldier in the country would have air-assaulted into San Francisco to crack skulls.

But since it was a bunch of pot-smoking, hippie, homosexual groupies that did it, not only did the leftist media ignore it, they gave those idiots time on the air as an "American right to protest".

It is so laughable that nothing you say is going to change the truth about how perverse it is. Just give it up JJ. They can't be defended.

JK
 
Jedi Knight said:



The NAACP, the FBI, the National Guard, Delta Force, the Secret Service and every other cop and soldier in the country would have air-assaulted into San Francisco to crack skulls.

It is so laughable that nothing you say is going to change the truth about how perverse it is. Just give it up JJ. They can't be defended.

JK

You must live on a different planet, in a different country than I do, JK. In the country I live in, being moderate gets you accused of being a commie pinko fag. Being moderately right gets you called a "liberal extremist". Being far to the right is JUST FINE unless you get caught.
 
jj said:


You must live on a different planet, in a different country than I do, JK. In the country I live in, being moderate gets you accused of being a commie pinko fag. Being moderately right gets you called a "liberal extremist". Being far to the right is JUST FINE unless you get caught.

You have got to be dreaming. You aren't going to pull the old "he is talking bad about leftist extremists so feel sorry for me" routine, are you?

Look how laughable your understanding of this issue is. If it were right-wing Nazis in San Francisco marching, the leftist media would have demanded that tanks be sent in.

But since it was leftist extremists, they are "celebrated" for their "diversity". You know, there is a war on, but the war at home is probably going to be more dangerous than the war in Iraq eventually.

I say that because our country does a great job dealing with extremist Nazis, but the subversionist communist left gets free reign. Eventually that is going to cause serious, serious problems in this country. I think all forms of extremism need to be squashed, not just the ones that declare allegiance to national racist socialists and the Nazi flag.

There is no way you can claim to be a moderate or else you wouldn't even be arguing about it.

JK
 
Jedi Knight said:

There is no way you can claim to be a moderate or else you wouldn't even be arguing about it.

JK
Spot on, JK! I am reasonably certain jj is a communist. The first clue is that he is from Redmond, Washington, an area teeming with coffee guzzling beatnik Trotskyites. They huddle around on mismatched furniture reciting subversive poetry, playing grudge rock and plotting the subjugation of freedom loving Americans like you and me. Their homosexual buddies in leftist Hollywood start the early indoctrination of our young 'uns with purple dinosaurs and gay teletubbies. That's a one-two assault of subliminal Darwinism and sodomy. These misanthropes are hellbent on the extinction of our species! They've decided that what babies we don't kill in the womb should be limp wristed fudge packers and butch-cut carpet lickers. Why? So that we won't be around anymore to bother the spotted owls! :mad:

Of course, this is just a theory and I could be completely wrong. :cool:
 
Jedi Knight:
You may be happy to know that the protestors in San Francisco are getting very bad press today. I've only seen two reports actually on the local TV stations, so I don't know how extensive the bad press is. They're talking about the $$$ SF is losing every day due to increased police presence and overtime, shutting down streets, vandalism, the already terrible economy/defecit.

In fact the protesting was extremely limited today, from what I've heard and read. Sounds like nobody showed up.

I even found a few links:
SF Problems

Slow Protest Day

``I think Yoga for Peace is great,'' said Pat Gilligan, who owns the building across the street. ``As long as there's no property damage, I don't have a problem with it. Only in San Francisco do you see peace activists doing yoga.''
Check out the photo of the "Yoga Protestors" in link #2.
 
What disturbs me is JK's claim to have served but his manner shows that he didn't serve America. At least not what it stands for and all of it's people. Sure, the military gets it's share of loons in there from time to time. I've seen a few white supremists get in, some that really despised homosexuals just because they were gay, even met a few guys in boot camp that swore all white men were the devil. But they have a right to think that and express it. They have the right to do so because many people that have served fought for and some died while preserving those rights.

To express opposition to something isn't aligning yourself with the enemy. It's exercising freedom. As a vet and one that isn't opposed to the war in Iraq, I see the protestors and am glad they can protest. Granted, I have to admit, I laugh and mock them and call them fools and idiots when they turn violent or can't answer questions about their own convictions, but then I have the right to do so. :D
 
Jedi Knight said:


The point I was making went right over your head.

If it were Christian Identity people storming across San Francisco with signs that said: "We support the troops only if they shoot their officers", how long would it be before the leftist media hopped all over that?

The NAACP, the FBI, the National Guard, Delta Force, the Secret Service and every other cop and soldier in the country would have air-assaulted into San Francisco to crack skulls.

But since it was a bunch of pot-smoking, hippie, homosexual groupies that did it, not only did the leftist media ignore it, they gave those idiots time on the air as an "American right to protest".

It is so laughable ...
JK
So, the 'FBI, the National Guard, Delta Force, the Secret Service and every other cop and soldier in the country' must all be pinko commie matriarchal totalitarian marxists - since they all ignored it, along with the leftist media?

Or are the leftist media paying the 'FBI, the National Guard, Delta Force, the Secret Service and every other cop and soldier in the country' to ignore it? Or are they just a'bunch of pot-smoking, hippie, homosexual groupies'?

Or are they only acting when the pinko newspapers tell them to? :rolleyes:
 
Jedi Knight said:


Look how laughable your understanding of this issue is. If it were right-wing Nazis in San Francisco marching, the leftist media would have demanded that tanks be sent in.

And here YOU are, asking for the tanks. What's the difference?

I say that because our country does a great job dealing with extremist Nazis, but the subversionist communist left gets free reign.

I'm truly convinced you wouldn't know a communist if one bit you, JK. The real thing is bad news, but I think you'd have a hard time getting the people in SF to explain Lysenkoism to you.

There is no way you can claim to be a moderate or else you wouldn't even be arguing about it.

JK

In other words, I'm not a moderate because I won't toe your ultra-right-wing-extremist Saddamn-like response to public protest?

Get real.

You're just like Saddamn.
 
Wayne Grabert said:

Spot on, JK! I am reasonably certain jj is a communist.
Ow, man, my sarcasm meter is starting to SMOKE! The first clue is that he is from Redmond, Washington, an area teeming with coffee guzzling beatnik Trotskyites. And large stock-option packages.They huddle around on mismatched furniture reciting subversive poetry, playing grudge rock and plotting the subjugation of freedom loving Americans like you and me. While examining the value of their stock options.Their homosexual buddies in leftist Hollywood start the early indoctrination of our young 'uns with purple dinosaurs and gay teletubbies.While counting the reciepts from their last movie. That's a one-two assault of subliminal Darwinism and sodomy. These misanthropes are hellbent on the extinction of our species! Which is why we keep having kids, to inflict the world with them. They've decided that what babies we don't kill in the womb should be limp wristed fudge packers and butch-cut carpet lickers. Why? So that we won't be around anymore to bother the spotted owls! :mad:

Of course, this is just a theory and I could be completely wrong. :cool:

I tell you, you owe me a new fuse for my sarcasm meter. OW, man, that got hot.
 
Troll said:
What disturbs me is JK's claim to have served but his manner shows that he didn't serve America.

He reminds me of the 1960's "Amerikkka" posters, frankly. His attitude is so similar to Saddamn's sons that, well, what more can I say?
 
jj said:


They both say stupid things that tend to polarize the discussions and eliminate the middle.
We all say stupid things from time to time, so what's the problem?

Do you actually bother sitting back and reading what they both say or, do you see the red white and blue JK and UCE flags and just go into react mode?

Have you ever once considered that they may indeed think the same of your views?


So where lies the problem?
 
Troll said:
What disturbs me is JK's claim to have served but his manner shows that he didn't serve America.

Out of idle curiosity I presume that you are you calling JK a liar then? I assume you are also including Rikzilla as well a liar for verifying JK has served in the American military, I also assume you have proof to back up this accusation?
 
Radiating Sunflower said:


Out of idle curiosity I presume that you are you calling JK a liar then? I assume you are also including Rikzilla as well a liar for verifying JK has served in the American military, I also assume you have proof to back up this accusation?

Nope. If I was gonna call him a liar my paragraph would have been way shorter. Your's should have been shorter as well given that you're presuming and assuming.

I have no proof one way or the other as to his service. I merely pointed out that if it is indeed true that he served then he failed to serve the country and what it does stand for. In short he may have been in the service but he did so more so for himself and his views rather than the country and it's freedoms.
 
Troll said:


Nope. If I was gonna call him a liar my paragraph would have been way shorter. Your's should have been shorter as well given that you're presuming and assuming.

I have no proof one way or the other as to his service. I merely pointed out that if it is indeed true that he served then he failed to serve the country and what it does stand for. In short he may have been in the service but he did so more so for himself and his views rather than the country and it's freedoms.


Well it certainly did not come across to me as the way you had intended but thank you for clarifying it.


On the subject for pointing out things, I think who or what Jk fought for in the service is only known by JK himself wouldn't you agree. By posting idle speculation about what you or indeed anybody else thinks Jk thinks or fought for is best left to the man himself after all he is the one who truly knows, and you like me do not.
 
Hellcat said:



Well it certainly did not come across to me as the way you had intended but thank you for clarifying it.


On the subject for pointing out things, I think who or what Jk fought for in the service is only known by JK himself wouldn't you agree. By posting idle speculation about what you or indeed anybody else thinks Jk thinks or fought for is best left to the man himself after all he is the one who truly knows, and you like me do not.

True. Only he knows what goes on in there. I was merely pointing out that many of his comments conflict with the vast majority of those that I served with. And at the same time, returning the favor to the guy for his speculations made about me. Never claimed to be morally superior to the guy;)
 
Hellcat said:

We all say stupid things from time to time, so what's the problem?
Their overall record.
Do you actually bother sitting back and reading what they both say or, do you see the red white and blue JK and UCE flags and just go into react mode?
If you'd bother to read what I write, you'd know the answer. Heal thyself.
Have you ever once considered that they may indeed think the same of your views?
I think they think much more poorly of my views. Neither arch-left or arch-right people can stomach the middle at all. Both regard the middle as an annoying sellout with the potential to usurp their jingoism. Guess what.
So where lies the problem?
Pretty clear, isn't it?
 
Biker Babe said:
[offtopic]
What you mean Q source has her dibs on JK too
Sniff my fairy matriarchal feminnatzi communist black heart is shattered and broken.

*sob sob wail*

Right enough of the slushinees wheres my whip and leg irons somebody is going to suffer my broken heart.[on topic]

Oh, no!

Don't worry Biker Babe. I only love The Serpent (Frank).

He is absent now ( :( ), but I will be loyal to him anyway.

Q-S :)
 

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