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Everyone Who Protests in America Is Allied With Iraq

Jedi Knight said:


Oh so "peaceful" attempts to overthrow the government is not subversion? One of the main groups that organized the San Fran Saddomonite marches said that they hoped to overthrow the government using the same means as that used in Yugoslavia. That is subversion, not peace.

JK

You may be a combat veteran, but you are still one serious idiot!

It will take much, much, much more than several thousand anti-war protestors in San Francisco to overthrow the entire country.

Look at history: How many countries have been overthrown by such actions?
None at all!

Look at practicality: How many Americans would support the overthrow of their government based on what some people do in San Francisco?
Very few, if any.

Do not worry JK, it is all right, I can be assure you that the USA will not be overthrown by anti-war protestors.
 
Crossbow said:


You may be a combat veteran, but you are still one serious idiot!

It will take much, much, much more than several thousand anti-war protestors in San Francisco to overthrow the entire country.

Look at history: How many countries have been overthrown by such actions?
None at all!

Look at practicality: How many Americans would support the overthrow of their government based on what some people do in San Francisco?
Very few, if any.

Do not worry JK, it is all right, I can be assure you that the USA will not be overthrown by anti-war protestors.


JK is an entertaining personality who is here to entertain himself and us. No one thinks that stuff, it's just there to fool people so we can laugh. Like television!
 
Amen Rusty!

Too think that the people in the White House and in the Congress would be so cowled by anti-war protestors that they would allow these protestors to dictate terms to them is laughable.

It takes considerably more effort than a few protests to overthrow a country.
 
If the powers that be would be more honest about what was going on and not what they think we need to hear, then there might be more support for wars like this.

What I despise about wars in general is the loss of innocent lives that get caught up in it and the fact a war happens and then those who start the fighting then turn there back on the aftermath that goes on. there is my big problem with war in general.

If that mean that I am a matriarchal limp wristed feminatzi tough ◊◊◊◊ and deal with it while licking my boots clean:D
 
Crossbow said:
Do not worry JK, it is all right, I can be assure you that the USA will not be overthrown by anti-war protestors.

I agree. :D

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JK
 
Biker Babe said:
If the powers that be would be more honest about what was going on and not what they think we need to hear, then there might be more support for wars like this.


Word! What pisses me off is this propagand bullshat. If I here that our motives are for "iraq freedom" or "democracy" just one more time Ill scream.
 
Tmy said:


Word! What pisses me off is this propagand bullshat. If I here that our motives are for "iraq freedom" or "democracy" just one more time Ill scream.

Hi Tmy, hey did you know that the US operations in Iraq are for Iraqi freedom and Iraqi democracy?

JK
 
Jedi Knight said:


Hi Tmy, hey did you know that the US operations in Iraq are for Iraqi freedom and Iraqi democracy?

JK

Yet, you want to kill people who express their opinion freely. That's not democratic that's fascistic.
 
armageddonman said:


Yet, you want to kill people who express their opinion freely. That's not democratic that's fascistic.

No, I want to make sure the nation-state is protected. I recommend 1 year in jail for those brats.

Now, check out the latest Saddomonite slogan:

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Those protestors are subversive and very, very dangerous to the stability of the country. They are probably all communists acting like they tolerate freedom, when in reality in the back of their minds they envision a communist Stalinist terror-state modeled after their heroes like Kruschev and Lenin.

JK
 
Jedi Knight said:


Hi Tmy, hey did you know that the US operations in Iraq are for Iraqi freedom and Iraqi democracy?

JK

That was cruel JK, I like it:D clean my boots asap
 
Tmy said:


Word! What pisses me off is this propaganda bullshat. If I here that our motives are for "iraq freedom" or "democracy" just one more time Ill scream.

You may scream anytime you feel like it Tmy, try doing it standing in the corner it echos nicely:D

Propaganda bullsh*t, so are you suggesting the innocent people of Iraq those same ones that were egged on last time to overthrow Saddam should be all wiped out?

I think I need to scream or take out my frustration out on some male.:mad:
 
Good for you JK!

I am glad that we agree that your previous statements regarding how the anti-war protestors will overthrow the government of the USA were incorrect.

Rather, it seems like your real problem is what some of these protestors are saying (such as those in the photo you posted). If this is the case, then I think you will just have to deal with your anger because I doubt that they could be jailed just for saying something.

To be considered subversive, one must take a material action directed against the US government for the purpose of harming the prosecution of the war.

Granted, the sign does make an outlandish statement, just waving it around would not be considered subversive because doing so is nothing more than waving around a sign with an outlandish statement. After all, the US Supreme Court ruled a while back that flag burning is constitutionally protected free speech, so I expect that this sign would have similar protection.

I hope this helps!
 
Last time I checked the US government asnwered to its citizens, not the other way around. I certainly know that if one of my subordinates does something I don't like, I'll let them know about it and correct their error. The government works for me and I'll bloody well let it know when I think it's screwing up.
And anyway, if pretesting against your government is subversive, seditious, or whatever, why aren't we still a colony? According to your view, JK, the founding fathers are traitors to their king, not revolutionaries who broke away from a corrupt and exploitive government.
 
Jedi Knight said:



Those protestors are subversive and very, very dangerous to the stability of the country. They are probably all communists acting like they tolerate freedom, when in reality in the back of their minds they envision a communist Stalinist terror-state modeled after their heroes like Kruschev and Lenin.

JK

Could be. They are definitely out of line with these sentiments.

But why can't you see that they are your mirror image on the left? They make outrageous leftist statements, you make outrageous rightist statements. You are both equally uncaring about the fact that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

You are actually worse than them. They don't want to see you shot. (At least they don't say so loudly in public forums.)

There's one logical tool I try to use that I don't see you using very much - the idea of turning a situation around to gain perspective. I wish you could see that you lack perspective. I also think you lack a basic understanding of what America is about at all. I wouldn't want to live in your ideal of America, I don't think.

Just my 2 cents.
 
sundog said:


Could be. They are definitely out of line with these sentiments.

But why can't you see that they are your mirror image on the left? They make outrageous leftist statements, you make outrageous rightist statements. You are both equally uncaring about the fact that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

You are actually worse than them. They don't want to see you shot. (At least they don't say so loudly in public forums.)

There's one logical tool I try to use that I don't see you using very much - the idea of turning a situation around to gain perspective. I wish you could see that you lack perspective. I also think you lack a basic understanding of what America is about at all. I wouldn't want to live in your ideal of America, I don't think.

Just my 2 cents.

JK doesn't really want to see anyone shot, we all just think it's funny when he says it and everybody starts thrashing around. He's like Jay Leno on the television!
 
The fact is, it is this kind of "subversion" -- citizens, out on the street, peacefully (for the vast majority of the protestors) if vigorously protesting government policy in spite of the known views of the majority of the population, that gives me some hope for America.

Unlike many nations in the world, unlike our (the US's) current adversary, protest that uses extreme language (i.e. "over-throw" the government) is not only respected in law (though not always in application of law) and, for the most part, by tradition.

I believe these folks to be foolishly wrong, but as an American and a patriot, I can only defend their right to be wrong...Just as I don't agree with this Administration's war, but understand that they, too, have the right to be wrong (at least until the next election).

To, once again, paraphrase that great and dangerous subversive, Ben Franklin, those who too easily give away their liberty and freedom in a time of fear, shall have, and deserve, neither.

JK's solution to this problem, his solution to people who think, speak, understand other than how he understands "reality" is a solution that both Hitler and Stalin would understand and approve of.

Freedom, freedom of thought, speech, assembly, etc., sadly, today remains throughout most of the world, the ultimate "subversive" activity. In short, without this sort of "subversion" -- or, at the very least, the patient toleration of it -- there is no America worth defending. Indeed, we than might as well admit that we are in Iraq for the oil and the exercise of raw power and begin backing away from all of the noble expressions about bringing "liberty" and "freedom" to the Iraqi people.

In the end, JK, a system like the United States, or any true free society, can ultimately and only be "subverted" -- a'la Lenin -- when at its core the vast majority of the population has lost all faith in the morality, guiding ethic, principals and leadership of the nation. If you are suggesting that these small, issolated and delusional protesters represent a threat to US policy or the current administration, than either you've lost your mind completely, or George Bush and his crew have completely subverted the freedoms, principals, ethics and values that they claim to stand for.

In short, becoming and advocating facisim to avoid communisim, as stated, is a solution that Hitler and Stalin could completely understand. And, while you will deny that is what you (JK) are advocating, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, one might conclude that it is a duck (admitedly, a "subversive" thought).

Just my 2Cents.
 
The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

And the Jedi Knight shall lay down with the Undercover Elephant and say unto him, "Get thee out of my tent, thou damned communist Saddamonite!"

And nothing shall hurt nor destroy in all His kingdom.
 
Crossbow said:

Do not worry JK, it is all right, I can be assure you that the USA will not be overthrown by anti-war protestors.
Unless there is enough of them, and those bed hopping, dirty hippies breed like rats! :mad:
 
Wayne Grabert said:
The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

And the Jedi Knight shall lay down with the Undercover Elephant and say unto him, "Get thee out of my tent, thou communist Saddamonite!"

And nothing shall hurt nor destroy in all His kingdom.
Oh that so not fair how come UCE gets to share JK tent I don't get an invite:(

JK dont lub me sniff:(
 

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