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Does 'rape culture' accurately describe (many) societies?

Skeptical Greg said:
How do you prove intent? ( In a court of law, where the ban on porn has been invoked.)
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Presumably the same way you'd establish mens rea for any other alleged crime. I'm not going to give you a seminar on how intent is proven in a court of law. Figure it out for yourself, or be forever in doubt that your criminal justice system can ever be just, or even criminal.
 
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theprestige said:
I guess not every display of the beauty of the human form is intended to sexually arouse.


I guess not every sex scene is intended to sexually arouse.


I guess we're not.
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What if a scene including un simulated sex is intended to create disgust or sympathy? Is it still porn? I've seen Nymphomaniac and it did "nothing for me" nor do I believe that was the director's intent.
 
lobosrul5 said:
Sure, adults who look like children have as much rights to employment and free expression as adults who look like adults.
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They do this in the USA. In the UK it's illegal on DVD and Blu-ray. It's not just that the actors look young - they are dressed to look underage and might use props to boot.
Legalise porn and reap the consequences...adults (or children for that matter) getting off on virtual child porn.

 
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dirtywick said:
i think it's also worth noting that adult men from like 18-24 could possibly have a healthy and age appropriate attraction to women in the "teen" category of porn.

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That does bring up the amusing possibility of Pornhub being required to serve up porn which only features "age-appropriate" performers given the age of the user. An additional feature would be that you could access videos with younger performers if you have a large bank balance and/or flash car. :)
 
Poem said:
They do this in the USA. In the UK it's illegal on DVD and Blu-ray. It's not just that the actors look young - they are dressed to look underage and might use props to boot.
Legalise porn and reap the consequences...adults (or children for that matter) getting off on virtual child porn.
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That'd be a consequence to whom?
 
lobosrul5 said:
What if a scene including un simulated sex is intended to create disgust or sympathy? Is it still porn?
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I don't understand the question. "Intended to sexually arouse" seems like a pretty clear and well-bounded statement to me.

lobosrul5 said:
I've seen Nymphomaniac and it did "nothing for me" nor do I believe that was the director's intent.
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Okay then.
 
theprestige said:
I don't understand the question. "Intended to sexually arouse" seems like a pretty clear and well-bounded statement to me.


Okay then.
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No your honor, I made this clown-porn for people who are afraid of clowns to help them get over their clownophobia not for people who are into clowns.

Judge: OK then, case dismissed. I guess.

ETA: and its extremely broad. If I post a picture of my nice big biceps I've been working on in my dating profile, do I need to go to court and prove it wasn't intended to sexually arouse someone? Because I mean, it kinda was.
 
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theprestige said:
I think "intended to sexually arouse" is a perfectly cromulent definition. Why don't you like it?
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I see a lot of good potential in this definition. How many people have to testify to being sexually aroused by pictures of Donald Trump before we can ban them?
 
lobosrul5 said:
That'd be a consequence to whom?
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That's an interesting question, along the lines of would it be a problem if we created sex robots that men can beat up and rape?

Does repeatedly simulating a behaviour make it more likely a person will want to progress to another level once he has habituated to the current stimulus?
 
Ivor the Engineer said:
That's an interesting question, along the lines of would it be a problem if we created sex robots that men can beat up and rape?

Does repeatedly simulating a behaviour make it more likely a person will want to progress to another level once he has habituated to the current stimulus?
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I don't think thats ever been actually established. How many hours of killing and violence have I seen in movies, TV, and in video games.... 10,000+ I'm sure. Yet, I have no desire to do so IRL.

And obviously, allowing someone to take out their rape fetish on an inanimate object is preferable to them doing it to a person.
 
lobosrul5 said:
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You know someone, somewhere, rubbed one out to that.

Porn. Straight to jail.
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More likely they made a deepfake - i.e. real porn.

There will always be grey areas at either ends of the scale - if you ban porn or if you legalise it. No one is going to win this argument.
 
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