Crop circle debunking help needed

chuck4842 said:
:blush: ok, got it now. I checked it out and all that. Y'all really didn't have to do all that, I was trying to express my frustration of having to present proof thru the net. But since I seem to keep believing in something paranormal, and seeing my dream of getting beamed up by Scotty disappearing slowly. Than you're right , it's me that should do the work. I really appreciate the truthful information I 've found thru Stray Cat and the rest.
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Well said. You've got my respect for this.


chuck4842 said:
I noticed you passed by like the old wise catfish with a scarred lip. ;)
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;)
 
@angel love : drat all he good idea are already taken :P.

chuck4842 said:
I mean how can a complex crop circle made by humans be made in 45 minutes of uninterrupted video
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As said before, preparation, geometric tricks, and knowing the tricks. You are coming from the incredulity side. I mean, how can one come and excise an appendix, and leave quasi no visible scar in less time than doing a crop circle ? By being a doctor , knowing one's trade and tool well, preparation, and using a few trick like operating with those new tube/cable which need a very small scar only.

Because you don't know how to do it, does not mean it is impossible.
 
chuck4842 said:
If I say I'm not sure if it's manmade, and you say it is. Somebody has got to proove why other than the handy guide provided in the circlemakers for 5.99. Do I need to repost the review of that book in it's entirety? Show me where in that book it teaches you how to weave the crops like this.
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Reality check: There are only men here. All other sources are hypothetic. Since it can be shown that men CAN make all the features observed, the logical conclusion is that all crop circles are manmade.

Hans
 
chuck4842 said:
It's still an amazing subject when you do realize that people are hustling people, including government involvement,
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Evidence? Aside from the Queen once saying that she and Prince Philip were interested in crop circles?

(Brenda and Phil the Greek aren't the Government, but they do have the odd connection or two...)

chuck4842 said:
and the makers unique selfpromoting, by making BOL claims,
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Many people claim to have seen BOLs aka unexplained ball of light phenomena in and near crop circles. This is not uncommon. I don't doubt that these BOLs exist. I don't know what they are but I don't think that they make crop circles.
 
23_Tauri said:
Many people claim to have seen BOLs aka unexplained ball of light phenomena in and near crop circles. This is not uncommon. I don't doubt that these BOLs exist.
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I do. The only vid I've seen of these balls of light have been faked.
I don't know what they are but I don't think that they make crop circles.
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I believe that they are croplore and exist only in croppies imaginations.
 
EHocking said:
I do. The only vid I've seen of these balls of light have been faked.
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I've seen one. I was in a crop circle a few years back, lying on my back staring up at the clear blue sky. It was a hot, July day. This shimmering BOL like object moved across the sky, pretty high up, moving quite fast. It stopped suddently above me and my friend, paused for a few seconds then shot upwards. It didn't look like a bird or a weather balloon. It was weird. We both sat there, saying WTF??!! :confused:

EHocking said:
I believe that they are croplore and exist only in croppies imaginations.
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It wasn't in my imagination. I had a friend with me. We both saw it and watched it together.

Footnote: I am not saying this was an alien spaceship or maker of crop circles. It was flying. We could not identify it. Therefore it was an unidentified flying object. :) It is the only UFO I have ever seen.
 
23_Tauri said:
I've seen one. I was in a crop circle a few years back, lying on my back staring up at the clear blue sky. It was a hot, July day. This shimmering BOL like object moved across the sky, pretty high up, moving quite fast. It stopped suddently above me and my friend, paused for a few seconds then shot upwards. It didn't look like a bird or a weather balloon. It was weird. We both sat there, saying WTF??!! :confused:


It wasn't in my imagination. I had a friend with me. We both saw it and watched it together.

Footnote: I am not saying this was an alien spaceship or maker of crop circles. It was flying. We could not identify it. Therefore it was an unidentified flying object. :) It is the only UFO I have ever seen.
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Are you sure it ain't floaters ? I can also do see those on a colored wall with a bright light. They seem to be impurety in eye vitrous humour, and when I wink my eye they disappear, and eye micromovement are enough to give them appearance of move. I one time saw what i thought was a ball if light agaisnt the blue sky, until I realized it was a floater moving with my eye.
 
Aepervius said:
Are you sure it ain't floaters ? I can also do see those on a colored wall with a bright light. They seem to be impurety in eye vitrous humour, and when I wink my eye they disappear, and eye micromovement are enough to give them appearance of move. I one time saw what i thought was a ball if light agaisnt the blue sky, until I realized it was a floater moving with my eye.
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Possible, but I don't think so. I get floaters quite a bit (no, I don't have glaucoma) and two people saw this object. But who knows what it was. I am going back about 6-7 years. I'm pretty sure it wasn't capable of making the crop circle I was lying in though. :)
 
23_Tauri said:
I've seen one. I was in a crop circle a few years back, lying on my back staring up at the clear blue sky. It was a hot, July day. This shimmering BOL like object moved across the sky,
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OK. I was talking about BoL that supposedly are associated with creating cropcircles when I was talking about video hoaxes.
pretty high up, moving quite fast.
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Ah, this is where you get into trouble quite a bit with statements like this.

On a clear day, i.e., with no clouds, you had absolutely no references with which to guage the height, size, nor the speed of your BoL.
I've been a keen birdwatcher since I was a child and I can still make mistakes with gauging size of a bird if I have no fram of reference for a sighting.
It stopped suddently above me and my friend, paused for a few seconds then shot upwards. It didn't look like a bird or a weather balloon.
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My first thought was a plastic shopping bag. By an odd coincidence, someone posted a similar sighting as my thoughts, "
I Ratant said:
.Some years back flying at the toy airplane, I noticed a commerical airplane pulling a contrail passing overhead, and very near a UFO! Bright shiny UFO! "same" altitude, from my vantage point.
Landed the toy airplane, got out the binoculars, and saw the UFO had come from the planet Wal-Mart.... by the logo on the plastic bag, which had been lifted from the city landfill across the street from the flying field.
We get lots of those there.
I was walking out back last year when one came crashing down right next to me!
Apparently the forces on reentry ripped it open and it lost lift.... or.... it got too high and the internal pressure from the helium split it, on its journey from Happy Birthday land.
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I'm not contending this IS the explanation for your sighting, but it is quite possible.
It was weird. We both sat there, saying WTF??!! :confused:


It wasn't in my imagination. I had a friend with me. We both saw it and watched it together.

Footnote: I am not saying this was an alien spaceship or maker of crop circles. It was flying. We could not identify it. Therefore it was an unidentified flying object. :) It is the only UFO I have ever seen.
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Don't take my critique above as a criticism of your honesty or observation.

I've had two UFO experiences so far. The first I'll never get an explanation for, the second, while I won't get proof positive on, I have at least a working hypothesis for an explanation (mundane).
 
Please provide the long form certificate proving you have eyes, signed by the editor of Squid Fishing Monthly.
 
macgregors2 said:
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This is really looking not only like blatant trolling but the inclusion of your email address adds spamming to your crimes.

But still I'm looking forward to your evidence that crop circles are made by aliens if you don't get suspended or banned for breaching the MA before you get time to post it.
 
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Stray Cat said:
This is really looking not only like blatant trolling but the inclusion of your email address adds spamming to your crimes.

But still I'm looking forward to your evidence that crop circles are made by aliens if you don't get suspended or banned for breaching the MA before you get time to post it.
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Too slow.

:)
 
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Nah, there's something definitely not right about that picture. We get grey aliens round these parts (they come for the services on offer at the local Implant Clinic ;)) but not polar bears. I can't believe that bear's REAL! :eek:
 
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