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A Thread for Democrats Being Useless

◊◊◊◊ that noise. Trump was not an unknown quantity. They knew exactly who he is and what he's done.
◊◊◊◊ them.
This. They're not innocent moderates who happened to be taken in by a manipulator, it's people who were either supporters of authoritarianism and bigotry or who weren't, but who still decided those things weren't dealbreakers to them. ◊◊◊◊ them. I was ready for peace and reconcilliation in 2020. Never again.
 
This. They're not innocent moderates who happened to be taken in by a manipulator, it's people who were either supporters of authoritarianism and bigotry or who weren't, but who still decided those things weren't dealbreakers to them. ◊◊◊◊ them. I was ready for peace and reconcilliation in 2020. Never again.

100% every word of this.
 
This. They're not innocent moderates who happened to be taken in by a manipulator, it's people who were either supporters of authoritarianism and bigotry or who weren't, but who still decided those things weren't dealbreakers to them. ◊◊◊◊ them. I was ready for peace and reconcilliation in 2020. Never again.
I'm not going to defend any Trump voter, but I still think some were clueless and maybe never voted before. Their info came all form social media. Not saying much about the voters, they are pretty dim for doing that.
 
We're closing in on a decade of trying to find any reason other than the obvious ones for why people support Trump. I feel like we're only two or three sympathetic interviews at a Rust Belt diner away from finally solving this mystery.
 
It is sad that Democrats want to be civil to the Nazis. WTF for?!
There are a lot of Cargo Cult Bipartisans out there, especially in the Democratic party. People who rather liked the possibly-never-happened era of bipartisan comity decades ago where they would go to parties with people from the other side and discuss ideas and make deals. They want to bring that era back, and have decided that the way to do it is to pretend it never stopped. Be reasonable, reach towards the middle, never be too rude or uncivil, and the other side will do the same!

Of course it doesn't actually work that way in real life. Bipartisanship is not the result of one side reaching out to the other in a spirit of cooperation. Bipartisanship is the result of both sides realizing the alternative is worse. One-sided bipartisanship is just capitulation. As long as Republicans can get what they want by being huge ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, they will continue to be huge ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. Democrats have to be huge ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ as well if we are ever going to get back to anything rational.
 
Oh, come on, surely you can reach a mutually beneficial deal with someone who publicly accuses you of being part of a child sex trafficking ring
 
Why the hell did the Dems decide to field Schumer to respoind to Trump's address? The Dems seem to be keen on sabotaging themselves. Frankly, I have no hope that there will be any shifts in the House or Senate during the midterms.
 
I'm not going to defend any Trump voter, but I still think some were clueless and maybe never voted before. Their info came all form social media. Not saying much about the voters, they are pretty dim for doing that.
The thing is the MAGAts are the same people as the Teahadists who were the same people as the Dixiecrats. The evil is generational with this crowd.
 
It's true. Nazis wore properly tailored Hugo Boss. Not the clearance rack at Cabella's.

Other than that, they are following the Nazi playbook, but Nazis had way more dignity.
 
Gavin Newsom started a podcast. So, what does the presidential hopeful focus on? Is it any benefit he has had for California? Highlight Democrats across the country? Discuss Democratic policies that Americans should know? Interview other prominent liberals/progressives/leftists/etc? Maybe how to resist the Republican controlled federal government?

Nope, brings on Charlie Kirk to embrace some transpanic.

The presumptive Democratic frontrunner for 2028, folks. How much do you want to bet that after he drops out in the summer of 28, he goes on a "why I left the left" tour?
 
Gavin Newsom started a podcast. So, what does the presidential hopeful focus on? Is it any benefit he has had for California? Highlight Democrats across the country? Discuss Democratic policies that Americans should know? Interview other prominent liberals/progressives/leftists/etc? Maybe how to resist the Republican controlled federal government?

Nope, brings on Charlie Kirk to embrace some transpanic.

The presumptive Democratic frontrunner for 2028, folks. How much do you want to bet that after he drops out in the summer of 28, he goes on a "why I left the left" tour?
Dude. Trans participation in women’s sports is a losing issue for the Democrats. And not by small margins either. That you can’t even recognize that speaks volumes. But then, given your Nazi delusions, I didn’t really expect anything else. You really are drinking the Koolaid.
 
Dude. Trans participation in women’s sports is a losing issue for the Democrats. And not by small margins either. That you can’t even recognize that speaks volumes. But then, given your Nazi delusions, I didn’t really expect anything else. You really are drinking the Koolaid. distraction from actual topics that affect people. We right-wingers only harp on it because we get to tell outrageous stories that revolve around sex and a minority group. We don't actually care about women's sports. We barely see women as fully human. We need to do nonsense like this because we are morally and intellectually bankrupt and have nothing to offer Americans as a material benefit. Please don't take away our culture war. We'll whither and die without it.
FTFY

Now, this thread isn't really for right-wingers' cynical and transparent attempts to distract from their own block hole of ideas. And it certainly isn't for debating That Topic.
 
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Complain about it all you want to, but the fact remains, Newsome switched position because his old position is an electoral loser.
Now, this thread isn't really for right-wingers' cynical and transparent attempts to distract from their own block hole of ideas. And it certainly isn't for debating That Topic.
I'm not debating the topic. It doesn't matter what you and I think about it. In the context of this thread, what matters is what the electorate thinks about it. And the electorate is strongly opposed to trans participation in women's sports. That's not really up for debate, that's just a fact, one which you aren't even disputing. Newsome switched position because he's smart enough to realize that, and to act accordingly. You're upset that as a politician, he's taking the popular position instead of the fringe position. And that is, quite frankly, stupid. Seriously, what do you expect of him? To take fringe positions that could cost him his chance at winning? Why?
 
Hey, did you know there are several threads for that? And this isn't one of them?

I get it, you're scared of having to discuss actual issues. But that's a you problem.

This is about Democrats failing. Even if this were an important issue to discuss (and it is not) who the hell is talking to Charlie Kirk about it? What exactly does he bring to the table? He's a certified moron. In no universe is there a person who takes any topic seriously thinking "hmmm, what is Charlie Kirk's take?"
 
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Hey, did you know there are several threads for that? And this isn't one of them?
We aren't debating the merits of trans participation in women's sports. We're talking about Democrats taking a position on the topic. And YOU brought that up, not me. And it's ironic that you accuse me of avoiding the issue, since you're running away from this, not me.
This is about Democrats failing. Even if this were an important issue to discuss (and it is not) who the hell is talking to Charlie Kirk about it?
Democrats who want to reach out to voters that aren't already going to vote Democrat automatically.

Are you confused about how elections work?
What exactly does he bring to the table?
An audience. Obviously.
 
Hey, did you know there are several threads for that? And this isn't one of them?

I get it, you're scared of having to discuss actual issues. But that's a you problem.

This is about Democrats failing. Even if this were an important issue to discuss (and it is not) who the hell is talking to Charlie Kirk about it? What exactly does he bring to the table? He's a certified moron. In no universe is there a person who takes any topic seriously thinking "hmmm, what is Charlie Kirk's take?"
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of someone bringing up trans women in sports or locker rooms approaches one."

^^I modified it for our time.
 
We aren't debating the merits of trans participation in women's sports. We're talking about Democrats taking a position on the topic. And YOU brought that up, not me. And it's ironic that you accuse me of avoiding the issue, since you're running away from this, not me.
I explained why this is stupid. Running to the right never works for democrats. Especially when it requires throwing already marginalized people under the bus.
Democrats who want to reach out to voters that aren't already going to vote Democrat automatically.

Are you confused about how elections work?
No one listening to a moron like Charlie Kirk is ever going to vote for a Democrat. Especially not the governor of Wokeifornia, Gavin Newscum. Newsom speaks in full sentences, which isn't what Charlie Kirk listeners want. There is no topic at all, be it transgender rights, gun control, tax policy, Gaza, climate change, or whatever, that Charlie Kirk and his listeners want an earnest and informed discussion about.
An audience. Obviously.
Of who? Billionaire donors? The right-wing media ecosystem does not exist to have intelligent discussions. It does not exist to promote "free speech" or a "marketplace of ideas". It exists to produce soundbites to push right-wing myths. All Newsom has done is give a race-baiting, smooth brained grifter credibility. Do you honestly expect me to pretend that a bunch of racists lowlifes who ride the shriveled orange dick of a rapist give one iota of a ◊◊◊◊ about women's sports? This is all a distraction and the Democrats keep playing into it.
 
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