2018 mid-term election

dudalb said:
I wonder if the Airzone GOP is asking Donnie NOT to endorse any of the candidates, so the Dems can't accuse the winner of being Trump's puppet.
But a number of political commentaors have stated in lot of races nationwide , the GOP candidate is going have problems in the general election because the Dems are going to be sure swing voters remember the GOP candidate's oaths of eternal feality to Trump.
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The article I linked to says that scuttlebutt is that the party powers are pushing Trump to seal the primary by endorsing McSally. That would be the political smartest move - for Trump. He's going to need allies on the hill in the next session of Congress, and coming out for Crazy Joe isn't going to get him nominated, anyway. The GOP thinks Ward can't win in November. That's telling because the race is between Crazy McSally, Crazy Ward and Crazy Joe. What's even more telling is that This is Arizona! The state has gone so conservative that some of the TP types wanted to change the name of the party's state HQ (or something like that) to remove Barry Goldwater's name.... 'cuz he's a RINO! And they're now worried that they stand a chance of losing in rock solid crazy right wing Arizona.
 
dudalb said:
I wonder if the Airzone GOP is asking Donnie NOT to endorse any of the candidates, so the Dems can't accuse the winner of being Trump's puppet.
But a number of political commentaors have stated in lot of races nationwide , the GOP candidate is going have problems in the general election because the Dems are going to be sure swing voters remember the GOP candidate's oaths of eternal feality to Trump.
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The Republican Senate candidate in New Mexico is being outpolled by the Libertarian (Gary Johnson) by 10 points.
He is the ex-governor, though.
 
Foolmewunz said:
The article I linked to says that scuttlebutt is that the party powers are pushing Trump to seal the primary by endorsing McSally. That would be the political smartest move - for Trump. He's going to need allies on the hill in the next session of Congress, and coming out for Crazy Joe isn't going to get him nominated, anyway. The GOP thinks Ward can't win in November. That's telling because the race is between Crazy McSally, Crazy Ward and Crazy Joe. What's even more telling is that This is Arizona! The state has gone so conservative that some of the TP types wanted to change the name of the party's state HQ (or something like that) to remove Barry Goldwater's name.... 'cuz he's a RINO! And they're now worried that they stand a chance of losing in rock solid crazy right wing Arizona.
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As a long-time Zonie, I can tell you that this state is nowhere near as conservative as it used to be. It's funny, but I originally registered as Republican here because I knew there was little point in voting in Democratic primaries; the "winner" almost always lost in the general.

Not entirely sure what is causing it--part of it probably is that the state is actually very urban--a very large percentage of the population lives in Phoenix or Tucson, and urban dwellers tend to vote Democrat. But that also applied 35 years ago. Of course there is also the influx of Californians, which although it has slowed in recent years, is still substantial.
 
Brainster said:
As a long-time Zonie, I can tell you that this state is nowhere near as conservative as it used to be. It's funny, but I originally registered as Republican here because I knew there was little point in voting in Democratic primaries; the "winner" almost always lost in the general.

Not entirely sure what is causing it--part of it probably is that the state is actually very urban--a very large percentage of the population lives in Phoenix or Tucson, and urban dwellers tend to vote Democrat. But that also applied 35 years ago. Of course there is also the influx of Californians, which although it has slowed in recent years, is still substantial.
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Yeah, I was being facetious. Arizona's moving more blue with each passing year. (Why do you think Sheriff Joe has the boys out back weaving more nets to snare more of the invading brown hordes? Bless his little heart! I hope he passes away before he realizes that it's white people turning the state!)

Retirees? A whole lot of big city liberals retiring early and liking golf just as much as conservatives. Two huge employment centers around Arizona and Arizona State. Universities attract liberals as kids are generally more liberal than the older generations. Out-of-state liberals who then decide to find work or settle and stay.

But mostly, it's population growth. There just aren't sufficient crusty old conservatives moving in to Desert Flats and Cactus Junction. They're moving to the cities and cities generally vote more liberal.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Yeah, I was being facetious. Arizona's moving more blue with each passing year. (Why do you think Sheriff Joe has the boys out back weaving more nets to snare more of the invading brown hordes? Bless his little heart! I hope he passes away before he realizes that it's white people turning the state!)
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You are aware that Sheriff Joe is sheriff no more? Got voted out in 2016. It caught me by surprise, although I've been voting against him for several elections after being a longtime supporter. I always assumed he'd leave the office feet-first (i.e., on a stretcher), but his shenanigans finally caught up with him. He was a pretty good sheriff compared to the guys we had before him (faint praise), but he definitely outlived his usefulness.

McSally's got the right biography, but I've always felt that Republicans seldom win on biography (e.g., Bob Dole). I still think that she's the favorite, but I certainly wouldn't bet the house on it.
 
Brainster said:
You are aware that Sheriff Joe is sheriff no more? Got voted out in 2016. It caught me by surprise, although I've been voting against him for several elections after being a longtime supporter. I always assumed he'd leave the office feet-first (i.e., on a stretcher), but his shenanigans finally caught up with him. He was a pretty good sheriff compared to the guys we had before him (faint praise), but he definitely outlived his usefulness.

McSally's got the right biography, but I've always felt that Republicans seldom win on biography (e.g., Bob Dole). I still think that she's the favorite, but I certainly wouldn't bet the house on it.
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Joe is no longer sherriff, but he is reffered to constantly...by both supporters and his foes..as Sheriff Joe. It has gone from being a title to nickname...not uncommon.
 
And I am saddened by the news about John McCain. I changed parties in 2000 to vote for him in the GOP California Primary. I fell he lost his way for while,and made some alliances he should not have made,but found his true self again in his opposition to Trump.
Sadly, the GOP I once could support is gone..probably forever. David Gergan has some great comments on that last night.
 
And In California, Duncan Hunter is trying to shift the blame to his wife..shades of Mr Bumble in Oliver Twist.
THe San Diego Union, a staunchly Republican paper, called for Hunter to step down. Even is he is rellected, I don't see how he can function.
 
dudalb said:
And In California, Duncan Hunter is trying to shift the blame to his wife..shades of Mr Bumble in Oliver Twist.
THe San Diego Union, a staunchly Republican paper, called for Hunter to step down. Even is he is rellected, I don't see how he can function.
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I saw a snippet of him doing that and it was very off-putting as a human. I don't know if he realizes how much worse that is than just saying "we were sloppy, but we are cleaning up. Drain the Swamp!" Seriously, the excuse was worse than the accusation.
 
dudalb said:
And I am saddened by the news about John McCain. I changed parties in 2000 to vote for him in the GOP California Primary.
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I got the chance to ask him a few questions in some conference calls during the 2008 primary season. It was kind of a flukey thing--in one of my early blogs I aligned myself with the man who became the official campaign blogger for McCain. I also endorsed McCain the day after the 2006 election, and so I got an invite. And at first, when it looked like McCain had no chance at all it was cool--McCain even complimented me one time on my question. But as it became obvious that he was going to be the nominee, I don't mind admitting that I felt like I didn't deserve that kind of access.

I fell he lost his way for while,and made some alliances he should not have made,but found his true self again in his opposition to Trump.
Sadly, the GOP I once could support is gone..probably forever. David Gergan has some great comments on that last night.
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I've noticed for a long time that Republicans only get respect from moderates and the media when they are bashing other Republicans. This is just exhibit #22,057.
 
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LSSBB said:
Sounds like a testable hypothesis.
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Compare and contrast the treatment of McCain by the media in 2000 and the treatment of McCain by the media in 2008. Or compare and contrast the treatment of Jeff Flake by the media prior to Trump's election (largely ignored) and afterwards (lionized).
 
Brainster said:
Compare and contrast the treatment of McCain by the media in 2000 and the treatment of McCain by the media in 2008. Or compare and contrast the treatment of Jeff Flake by the media prior to Trump's election (largely ignored) and afterwards (lionized).
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It's almost as if those who are willing to stand up against utterly corrupt scofflaw dickholes like Trump thereby gain some respect. Go figure.
 
Beto O'Rourke stands, err, kneels with the NFL players refusing to stand for the national anthem. It's a home run, err touchdown with Ellen Degeneres and Kevin Bacon, but how will it play in Plano?
 
Brainster said:
Beto O'Rourke stands, err, kneels with the NFL players refusing to stand for the national anthem. It's a home run, err touchdown with Ellen Degeneres and Kevin Bacon, but how will it play in Plano?
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Don’t care. Im excited to vote for Beto for the simple reason the he kinda sorta has a chance to break single-party rule in Texas.
 
Tony said:
Don’t care. Im excited to vote for Beto for the simple reason the he kinda sorta has a chance to break single-party rule in Texas.
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It will probably help his fundraising, but it's not a position that is going to get moderate Republicans to flock to his banner. It's the kind of tactic that someone who believes in the "lost tribe" theory of politics might try.

Smart politicians would triangulate this issue.
 
Brainster said:
Beto O'Rourke stands, err, kneels with the NFL players refusing to stand for the national anthem. It's a home run, err touchdown with Ellen Degeneres and Kevin Bacon, but how will it play in Plano?
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First of all, assuming he's a complete political whore and is looking to appeal to voters, how many wrapped-in-the-flag jingoists were going to switch from Cruz if Beto was to have come out against the protests. And now, counter those two votes with the half-a-million progressives and liberals who would stay home on election day. They may not be able to vote for Cruz but they aren't going to come out with any enthusiasm for a political whore who sides with Trump and the MAGA patriots and flag-wavers.

Second of all, if he's doing it out of principle? Good for him!
 
Foolmewunz said:
And they're now worried that they stand a chance of losing in rock solid crazy right wing Arizona.
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It's not as rock solid crazy as you might think. There's a strong libertarian element and in some cases a realistic view on how to approach immigration reform.
 
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