2018 mid-term election

[dudalb]

Now all we need are people from Missouri sneaking over to vote in Kansas.......

 

[dudalb]

Donnie threatning to shut down the government over The Wall in October. Just five weeks before the election. I am sure the GOP congress critters running for congress just love that idea....

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

I appreciate that you feel threatened by forces out there.

Not an argument, just an ad-hom and you're making it to Chomsky really because I am with him front-to-back on his analysis of media.

You appear to be making a case that Trump is some savior

More ad-hom non-argument. Savior? lol.

from your perceived threats.

Keep reminding me I am writing from the mental hospital.

So this isn't discourse, now is it.

It seems to me you have your mind made up that it is all "globalists" and "anti-globalists",

Nope.

justify Trump and tear in to anyone who opposes him.

pretty lame, champ. Playing the victim, vilifying a straw man.

The world isn't that simple.

Good thing I made no such argument.

And Trump is no hero.

Since I called him no such thing, you haven't made an argument of any kind here.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

And we hear from the Trump worshipper.
.

Not an argument, is it. And look at what a wild claim it is! Worshipper, lol.

I'm a Trump analyst. And I am not going to be a pussy that feels he has to insult Trump in every post and qualify every thing with "I hate Trump" and jump on every anti-Trump meme. Our major difference is Israel but there are plenty of others.

I have been pretty much a broken record about how he has been underestimated from the crack of the gun in the primaries. I was especially emphatic as the election drew near that doing as you are right here is a losing strategy. You can't argue by just labeling your opponents racists, sexists, homophobes, worshippers, etc.

 

[Brainster]

Not an argument, is it. And look at what a wild claim it is! Worshipper, lol.

I'm a Trump analyst. And I am not going to be a pussy that feels he has to insult Trump in every post and qualify every thing with "I hate Trump" and jump on every anti-Trump meme. Our major difference is Israel but there are plenty of others.

I have been pretty much a broken record about how he has been underestimated from the crack of the gun in the primaries. I was especially emphatic as the election drew near that doing as you are right here is a losing strategy. You can't argue by just labeling your opponents racists, sexists, homophobes, worshippers, etc.

In the mid-terms, it's a defensible strategy, but they'd better change their tune in 2020. I remember 60 Minutes pissing away any remaining credibility on the Bush National Guard story, or Bob Dole asking "Where's the outrage?" about Clinton. The 2020 election is going to be a referendum on the economy, just as it is in every election there there is a sitting president.

The idea that people are going to vote on Trump's personal qualities is a complete non-starter.

 

[LSSBB]

Not an argument, just an ad-hom and you're making it to Chomsky really because I am with him front-to-back on his analysis of media.




More ad-hom non-argument. Savior? lol.




Keep reminding me I am writing from the mental hospital.

So this isn't discourse, now is it.




Nope.



pretty lame, champ. Playing the victim, vilifying a straw man.




Good thing I made no such argument.




Since I called him no such thing, you haven't made an argument of any kind here.

I have, you responded with neener neener.

 

[Stacko]

It's a good thing Corey Stewart is well versed in lost causes.

Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., led GOP rival Corey Stewart by 23 percentage points in a July poll of likely voters released Wednesday.
Kaine had 49 percent to 26 percent for Stewart, chairman of the Prince William Board of County Supervisors, with 5 percent for Libertarian Matt Waters and 20 percent undecided, according to the survey from the L. Douglas Wilder School of Government and Public Affairs at Virginia Commonwealth University.

 

[korenyx]

Don't worry Kris Kobach is overseeing the recount into whether or not he won the GOP nomination for governor.

Yes, he's refusing to recuse himself from the recount because "The recount thing is done on a county level, so the secretary of state does not actually participate directly in the recount."

Right Kris. Whatever.

 

[kellyb]

Memphis, Tennessee:

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a22656792/tennessee-democratic-sweep-shelby-county/

Of the 26 county offices up for grabs, Democrats won all but five — and those were previously Republican commission seats. Before the election, Republicans held nine of the 10 most high-profile county offices, including mayor and sheriff. Now, they hold zero...The reasons behind the wave are likely manifold, but it's hard to ignore the polarizing effect of President Donald Trump. Also, it's interesting that Harris and Republican governor candidate Bill Lee both largely focused on their visions while their opponents launched highly visible — and negative — attacks on them. Attack ads have a record of working — but in today's political climate, they seem to have backfired. However, perhaps the big reason for the wave was that Democrats fielded high-quality candidates who clearly articulated the need for new solutions to persistent problems.

Solutions. Government solutions. An amazing concept as yet largely untried in the second decade of the 21st century.

 

[Foolmewunz]

It was mentioned this morning on the TeeVee that Trump has endorsed Kobach over Brownback.

Brownback wasn't running; the sitting governor is Jeff Colyer. And of course Trump backed Kobach, the head of the Mythical Illegal Voters Investigatory Panel.

The great thing is that Kobach hasn't yet recused himself (as Kansas Sec'y of State) from overseeing the recount. There's no law requiring him to do so and with his noted expertise in vote-counting(cough), I'm sure his services will be invaluable.

I'm so looking forward to him losing in November.


ETA: I see most of this was covered. I read the index page incorrectly and thought there were five posts in the thread. Sorry about the redundancies.

 

[acbytesla]

Not an argument, just an ad-hom and you're making it to Chomsky really because I am with him front-to-back on his analysis of media.

More ad-hom non-argument. Savior? lol.

Keep reminding me I am writing from the mental hospital.

So this isn't discourse, now is it.

Nope.

pretty lame, champ. Playing the victim, vilifying a straw man.

Good thing I made no such argument.

Since I called him no such thing, you haven't made an argument of any kind here.

Wow! Talk about non-sequitor nonsense.

The bs you piled up on your earlier post was absurd. I disagree with its entire premise. You seem to believe attacking the cretin Trump is a political mistake. I think you are wrong wrong, wrong!. Trump may have won the electoral college but he lost the total vote by 3 million votes. And support for him has dwindled. Not by a lot, but by enough. And Trump couldn't afford to lose ANY. What's more, he's whipping up his opposition into a committed frenzy.

That you love and worship the racist, sexist, lying POS seems more like a personal problem. But whatever, you're entitled to your opinion.

Me, I am inclined to believe Trump has caused more people to hate and detest him and his policies than he has in persuading people to support him. I saw an analysis of voting patterns today from primaries across the country. Trump may have increased support in rural counties, but he lost a lot of support from highly educated suburban areas. He is effectively making the GOP a rural party.

All I can say is, 'good luck with that'.

 

[acbytesla]

In the mid-terms, it's a defensible strategy, but they'd better change their tune in 2020. I remember 60 Minutes pissing away any remaining credibility on the Bush National Guard story, or Bob Dole asking "Where's the outrage?" about Clinton. The 2020 election is going to be a referendum on the economy, just as it is in every election there there is a sitting president.

The idea that people are going to vote on Trump's personal qualities is a complete non-starter.

I think it's cute that you think that the situations are remotely alike. The economy will mean something to be sure . But I think you underestimate the animosity that Trump generates. If he was the average President and people were just against his policies, you might be right. There are very few people who have a neutral position on Trump.

The real key to the 2020 election is who the Democrats select as their nominee. If he/she is not an awful choice, Trump will be slaughtered like a spring lamb.

 

[WilliamSeger]

The idea that people are going to vote on Trump's personal qualities is a complete non-starter.

How about the idea that people are going to vote against the things he and his Cabinet are doing?

 

[dudalb]

In the mid-terms, it's a defensible strategy, but they'd better change their tune in 2020. I remember 60 Minutes pissing away any remaining credibility on the Bush National Guard story, or Bob Dole asking "Where's the outrage?" about Clinton. The 2020 election is going to be a referendum on the economy, just as it is in every election there there is a sitting president.

The idea that people are going to vote on Trump's personal qualities is a complete non-starter.

SO now character and honesty and intelligence don't matter in a President,Nice.
This is nothing but a new version of "but he made the trains run on time".

 

[dudalb]

How about the idea that people are going to vote against the things he and his Cabinet are doing?

But nothing matters but the economy, which tranalates to "Trump can do what he wants so long as he gives me my tax cuts".

 

[dudalb]

Wow! Talk about non-sequitor nonsense.

The bs you piled up on your earlier post was absurd. I disagree with its entire premise. You seem to believe attacking the cretin Trump is a political mistake. I think you are wrong wrong, wrong!. Trump may have won the electoral college but he lost the total vote by 3 million votes. And support for him has dwindled. Not by a lot, but by enough. And Trump couldn't afford to lose ANY. What's more, he's whipping up his opposition into a committed frenzy.

That you love and worship the racist, sexist, lying POS seems more like a personal problem. But whatever, you're entitled to your opinion.

Me, I am inclined to believe Trump has caused more people to hate and detest him and his policies than he has in persuading people to support him. I saw an analysis of voting patterns today from primaries across the country. Trump may have increased support in rural counties, but he lost a lot of support from highly educated suburban areas. He is effectively making the GOP a rural party.

All I can say is, 'good luck with that'.

GIven ABP's posting history, it's a case of extreme Anti Establishment Attitude.
He sees Trump as destroying the Establishment (let's put off if that is true or not) and that is all he wants to see.
Call if the Joker in "The Dark Knight" syndrome...he just wants to see the Forest Burn.

 

[LSSBB]

GIven ABP's posting history, it's a case of extreme Anti Establishment Attitude.
He sees Trump as destroying the Establishment (let's put off if that is true or not) and that is all he wants to see.
Call if the Joker in "The Dark Knight" syndrome...he just wants to see the Forest Burn.

I don't think it's that simple, and this speaks to a possible factor to be considered in the mid-term elections.

In the Halcyon days of the Occupy movement, and before that the WTO/ G7 protests, much of the protesting has been centered on Globalization.This is still a solid driver of the Trump support, and it crosses party lines. These folks like tariffs and trade barriers. As a Libertarian myself, and also as someone who would love to see a day without borders of any kind, folks like me are the enemy, people like Donald are their friend, or so they think.

The Democratic Party has abandoned these folks, regardless of whether they are right or wrong. It may have a lot to do with their political weakness. Global trade used to be a Republican goal (a lesson learned with Smoot-Hawley, and only recently forgotten). Now the Republicans have stolen the anti-globalization platform away from the Democrats, who embraced globalization under Clinton.

Of course, Donald really is a globalist, just with folks he can benefit personally from (Russians and asbestos, for example)

 

[carlitos]

(R) George HW Bush fought for fast-track authority so that (D) Clinton could get NAFTA done and open up trade in North America.
(D) Obama fought for TPP and (R) Trump killed it, potentially ceding trade dominance in Asia to the Chinese.

Perhaps, by the mid-terms, these tariff effects will be pronounced enough, communicated effectively and believed by voters enough to affect their votes, but I really doubt it. Long-time D and R voters, their reps and the media all need to behave like they live in bizarro world, embracing opposite roles from normal. I don't know that this can happen fast enough to have a huge impact in November.

 

[Tero]

I’m afraid the Nov election is a little soon. The Trump tariff effect on our soy farmers has not had its full effect. By 2020 more of the farmers will be willing to vote for a Democrat. But out senate race is this year.

 

[Travis]

I don't think it's that simple, and this speaks to a possible factor to be considered in the mid-term elections.

In the Halcyon days of the Occupy movement, and before that the WTO/ G7 protests, much of the protesting has been centered on Globalization.This is still a solid driver of the Trump support, and it crosses party lines. These folks like tariffs and trade barriers. As a Libertarian myself, and also as someone who would love to see a day without borders of any kind, folks like me are the enemy, people like Donald are their friend, or so they think.

The Democratic Party has abandoned these folks, regardless of whether they are right or wrong. It may have a lot to do with their political weakness. Global trade used to be a Republican goal (a lesson learned with Smoot-Hawley, and only recently forgotten). Now the Republicans have stolen the anti-globalization platform away from the Democrats, who embraced globalization under Clinton.

Of course, Donald really is a globalist, just with folks he can benefit personally from (Russians and asbestos, for example)

It is disheartening that so many people are advocating an economic policy guaranteed to create a new depression.