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Windows 10

OK, here's my experience so far. Disclaimer: It's not my personal machine. It's my Mom's who has delegated maintenance to me.

- Upgrade took some time to arrive. It finally came through today, though I had to select an "Upgrade anyway (not recommended)" option. I don't know why, and it wouldn't tell me anywhere. The laptop was declared OK by the "Get Windows 10" app in all regards. No incompatible hardware, drivers, or apps. Weird.

- Upgrade was smooth, very smooth. About an hour or so. Most of it seemed to have been downloaded last night.

- First impression is quite nice. Some weirdness, though. I went to check some settings, as usual, and came about some additional options. One was opening the mouse's manufacturer settings panel (which looks identical to what it was before), the other using the search function for the screen saver setting (which I couldn't find on the newfangled control panel without using search*). In both cases, it opened a new window BEHIND the control panel window. I had to click on the task bar icon to get them to the front. Makes no sense at all.

- Not that I consider the reports about spying, key logging etc. completely conspiracy, it's more like a storm in a teacup. It asked for all those settings right after upgrade. True, all sliders were to "On", but there they were, ready to be set to "OFF" (which I did). The language used to explain was, of course, overly marketingly positive, but nothing out of the ordinary compared to what you would get setting up a smartphone. I re-checked the privacy settings fully from the Control Panel, and they were easy to find. Not hidden at all (easier than the screen saver, see above). It's a big tab, with lots of settings, but they were not extraordinarily excessive on the spy level, compared to what you would get with smartphones or a tablet.

*Finally found it. A bit hidden. Still seems to not ask for the password after it had started the screensaver, despite all the settings as they should be**.

**Finally found this as well, under the energy options. There's some weirdness with the password selection greyed out, and you had to select another option up the page to un-grey it. Seems to be security-related, but I cannot see it being effective. It's also not changed from Windows 8, but I have forgotten how it is, seeing as I had to only set it once some time ago.
 
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I added 1GB of memory to the old Tosh (bit of a SNAFU from OFFTEK, only 1 of 2 memory modules arrived) and it's made a huge difference to performance.
 
quadraginta said:
Piling on the FUD bandwagon.

The new substitute for actual tech journalism.
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The article gets its facts wrong. The "Personalization" tab refers to the look and feel, as before. There's a separate "Privacy and Security" tab. Not particularly hidden, and pretty thorough.
 
95% of the changes are fine (still fixing the backup/partition situation, though it's nothing to do with the upgrade and entirely my stupidity at this point), but man, the switch from Win+F to Win+S for a file search shortcut key is messing up my muscle memory something fierce. (Or Win+Q. Point is, F doesn't work. At least they haven't made it do something disastrous instead.)

I won't make an exhaustive list - or I'd at least do it somewhere useful - but also irksome: rolling the scrollwheel doesn't cancel the 'middle-click and move mouse to scroll quickly' mode in Edge, you can't middle-click on the Edge taskbar button to open a new window, I'm getting a bunch of duplicate email notifications, you can't zoom with the scrollwheel in the new Photos app... ok, not even kidding, I'm literally just noticing the scrollwheel pattern in that list too.

Bonus new shortcut keys I just found - Win+C starts Cortana listening (don't know what that does without Cortana enabled), Win+A opens the notification panel, Win+H opens... hey, the Share charm! And Win+G does something about a 'Game Bar' that I don't understand.
 
jadebox said:
Oh, I just recalled another issue I had during the upgrade. It would fail if I had all my USB connected stuff plugged in. Once I unplugged everything except my mouse and keyboard, the upgrade proceeded. After the upgrade, I plugged everything back in and everything seems to work.

I did have to restore the default printer. "Devices and Printers" is kind of hidden in 10. A link to it would be more useful than those animated tiles shown in the start menu. I am trying to give the new UI a try before I get give into the urge to start customizing it to work more like XP.

-- Roger
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I'm not sure how it could reasonably be expected to be a lot less hidden.

1) right click on Windows icon
2) click on Control Panel
3) click on View Devices and Printers
4) right click on the printer you want and select "Set as default printer".

or you could ...

1) click on Windows icon
2) click on settings
3) type "default printer" into the search box

which will take you past step 3 above. and right to step 4.

Everything can't be on top. Assigning default printers isn't a routine daily chore, and doesn't need to be on top.

Four clicks in the perfectly logical and expected places to find them is about as good as you can ask for. The first two clicks or something very much like them are going to be shared by nearly any maintenance or setup task you might want to perform.

In the second solution (above) the third step is an abbreviated natural language query. It never hurts to try the search box first. The OS is designed for that kind of thing.
 
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Man Upgrades To Windows 10 – It Shows His Wife His Entire Porn Collection

More FUD for you all:

Man Upgrades To Windows 10 – It Shows His Wife His Entire Porn Collection
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http://www.malaysiandigest.com/tech...hows-his-wife-his-entire-porn-collection.html

A man woke up to his wife asking why his computer was showing off a slideshow of eye-wateringly hard porn, after he upgraded to Windows 10.

He claims he upgraded to Windows 10 late at night, then woke up to his wife goggling at a screensaver of distinctly fruity images.

Writing on Reddit under the username FalloutBoS, he said, ‘Woke up to wife asking why I set it to rotate all my porn images right on the desk top view.

‘I have no idea how to shut that feature off and that computer is staying shut down until I do.’

‘Don’t make my mistake, keep your private pictures out of My Pictures, no matter how deep you hide them in sub folders.’

By default, the new OS creates a screensaver using images in the computer’s Pictures folder.

Users wishing to – ahem – keep certain images private are advised to ensure they’re not in the Pictures folder.
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:v:
 
Matthew Best said:
When did programs start being called apps?

And why?
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The word "applications" has been used for quite some time, as a subgroup for "programs".

"Apps" as abbreviation of "applications" came into use with the iPhone and iPad, for the programs running on them. From there, it seeped back to the desktop.
 
elgarak said:
The word "applications" has been used for quite some time, as a subgroup for "programs".

"Apps" as abbreviation of "applications" came into use with the iPhone and iPad, for the programs running on them. From there, it seeped back to the desktop.
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Not with me. Or indeed people I spoke to. App was always a common abbreviation for application, long before the iPhone. Which was why I was baffled when they wanted to copyright (or protect in some way) the term 'app store', which seems a bit like copyrighting 'grocery store'.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
More FUD for you all:



http://www.malaysiandigest.com/tech...hows-his-wife-his-entire-porn-collection.html



:v:
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Actually that bit about the slideshow is incorrect. Or it's at least not global. My screensaver was the built in 3d spinning text one. After the Win10 upgrade it kept that screensaver, but change the actual text to "Windows 10" (it had been a bizzaro movie quote I liked). Changing back is easy, of course.

So at least in my case Windows /didn't/ change my default screen saver, it just tweaked the options of what I'd been using. The cycling pictures thing did happen for me in the Live Tile (is that what they're called?) off the start menu. No problems with pr0n there, but it wasn't nice to be greeted by a pic of my now-deceased cat in the final days of her life :-(
But I can't blame that on MS.

edit to add : yeah, that guy's quote "I have no idea how to shut that feature off..." . If you can't figure out how to change your computer's screen saver then perhaps you should be using one of those kid-friendly, no-sharp-edges tablets.

The whole keylog/spy/steal-your-ID/take-the-last-beer panic over Win10 is the reason why I'd suggested up-thread that people take a quick tour through settings. There were a number of things I changed, but nothing which made me panic, and (as pointed out above) nothing was hidden or tucked away where you couldn't find it.
 
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Joe Random said:
The whole keylog/spy/steal-your-ID/take-the-last-beer panic over Win10 is the reason why I'd suggested up-thread that people take a quick tour through settings. There were a number of things I changed, but nothing which made me panic, and (as pointed out above) nothing was hidden or tucked away where you couldn't find it.
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Um... how would you know?
 
elgarak said:
Shorthand for: The options people claimed were hidden/hard-to-find were easy to find. At least, that was my experience.
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I guess it's relative. Before Snowden, I had no idea much of what he revealed was even possible. It wouldn't surprise me much if Microsoft has a few little gems tucked away in the software. Par for the course. Nothing to get too troubled about.
 
marplots said:
Um... how would you know?
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True, there could be an option somewhere deep in the registry where the default is 'let MS record your keystrokes so we can log into your online banking profile and make sure you're spending your money wisely' and I've not found it yet. Or there could be something in the EULA akin to South Park's take on the iTunes EULA, and I'm a week or two away from being part of a human centipede.

My point being that all of the options getting so much media attention and panic were right out in plain sight, and easy to change. What's being reported aren't obscure and buried options stuck in someplace no one would ever think to look (covered by a "beware of the leopard" sign) ; they're a couple of clicks away for any who take half a moment.
 
marplots said:
I guess it's relative. Before Snowden, I had no idea much of what he revealed was even possible. It wouldn't surprise me much if Microsoft has a few little gems tucked away in the software. Par for the course. Nothing to get too troubled about.
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Microsoft did hide some things in Windows (in a way I find wrong) in the past.

My comment (and I suspect Joe Random's post) were referring only to the latest "scandal" regarding the new privacy settings in Windows 10.
 
elgarak said:
Microsoft did hide some things in Windows (in a way I find wrong) in the past.

My comment (and I suspect Joe Random's post) were referring only to the latest "scandal" regarding the new privacy settings in Windows 10.
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Bingo.
 
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