Vision From Feeling

[Ashles]

Regarding that some of you Forum members have contacted my school and told them that I am expressing reasons for concern of my mental health, at first I did take it as a deep violence against me as a person that you would have done such a thing.

"Deep violence"? You do like the drama of ludicrous hyperbole don't you.
The issue has been adressed already by the mods. Bring it up by all means but really that's a pretty disingenuous way of refering to how you feel about it since you are more than happy to keep posting here.
Another attempt to somehow win the moral high ground.

I have chosen to make my investigation and my experience of medical perceptions public, because I think it is a very interesting topic that others might find interesting too.

It is no more interesting than any other unverified paranormal claim we have seen. Some people might find it interesting. Some people find Uri Geller interesting. Some people find Sylvia Browne interesting.
Some people apparently don't mind being gullible.

The medical perceptions are most likely an expression of synesthesia, and I am investigating their actual accuracy in a test setting, as well as to find out what the source of the information is. The way the perceptions express themselves, the way I respond to experiencing them, and the way in which I conduct this investigation, all are no reason for concern.

There is no investigation going on. You have ensured no skeptical groups can work with your appalling tests. Or lack of actual clear claim.
Any tests you run yourself will be as worthless as any of your previous self-tests.
And your own University (which apparently you suddenly have no problem working with) appears to be repeatedly completely uninterested.

There are no valid reasons for concern of my mental health.

Personally I agree.
Willingness to dupe others, arrogance and refusal to admit error... they might not be pleasant personality traits, but not actually mental illness.

I have so far shared my investigation and perceptions with four professors, none of which responded negatively. I would be very surprised if this would damage my reputation as a scientist science student.

In complete and total contrast to everything you said up until now.
I guess after telling 5 Professors with no ill effects (other than their fascinating response of "Whatever") you feel they don't care enough about you or your career to have any reason to damage it.

In fact I am proud of myself for conducting a science project on my spare time.

I get the feeling you would be proud of yourself if you sharpened a pencil.

I have not been contacted by my school regarding concerns about the investigation or the perceptions, just like I had expected. The Counceling Center, or whom ever it was that was contacted, are as opposed to some of you Forum members fully qualified to evaluate this on their own and have obviously concluded as have I that there are no reasons for concern. I have already made my investigation public access and can not object when ever someone finds out about it. If I feel that the way my investigation was described by Forum members was inconsistent with how I view it, I know that anyone can go to my website and read my posts here to get my version of the story as well.

Well not the full version of course.
Just a very vaguely and completely unscientifically reported totally biased version.

As much as I would wish to ask that some of you become less impolite, I do realize that no matter how vicious and malevolent some of you come across, when the time comes that I can present some real results from a study or a test

How about you not bother posting anything here until such a miraculous turn of events comes to pass?
If at the same time you happen to pass Satan on a snowboard, feel free to tell him Hi from us.

you will all be a very valuable contribution in the discussions. I can not conduct my investigation on my own, and I am trying to be "one of the skeptics"

Not even slightly true.

even though by being the paranormal claimant I am probably banned from being that as well.

Another patented "It's everyone else against me" whine.

I am free to leave at any time if I am too uncomfortable here,

What despite the "deep violence" committed against you, you are continuing to post here?
But it's almost like you are compelled to keep repeating your unverified claims to us as though we will suddenly accept them.

Or as though you don't want to admit that the JREF skeptics created any perfectly reasonable tests which you had to publicly ignore or alter or evade, and you were forced to leave without convincing anyone here about any single part of your claim.

And at the risk of repetition (and that would be a shock on this thread) feel free to not bother posting exactly the same stuff you have done for over sixty pages - post something new. Post some actual information. Post a test carried out properly. Post... never mind. I might as well ask you to post the location of the Ark of the Covenant.

but I feel that I can stay here until the investigation reaches a final conclusion.

Or ever actually begins.

I think we all want to know.

Sure. It's the top of our To-Do list, just below finding out if Uri Geller really can bend spoons with his mind, whether Sylvia Browne really can contact the dead and whether Harry Potter really does travel via King's Cross.

 

[calebprime]

Same old. She does not have synesthesia. And to say, "I have to judge whether I am delusional or not" makes no sense whatsoever. But, that's what we've come to expect from this run of the mill paranormal claimant.

No. You don't have synesthesia. You have no medical diagnosis of this, and you have proven time and time again that we cannot trust your perception, or even world-view. It is most likely an expression of a mental issue, or outright lying - in all likeliness, it's a bit of both.

I haven't read the whole thread. Remind me or fill me in: How do you know this? Synesthesia isn't that uncommon. It's also not paranormal, nor does it translate into anything useful, necessarily. (So what if you perceive the number 9 as purple, or a G# seems 'smooth', for example. This, unfortunately, is not a deep insight into 9-ness or G#-ness, just a more-or-less arbitrary association made vivid)

 

[skeen]

She simply self-diagnosed herself with synesthesia. She took an online test which concluded she might have one kind of synesthesia, but I believe she merely faked it (which of course anyone can do).

She lacks the ability to evaluate anything as any ordinary person would. She has made claims far beyond synesthesia, and her attempts to rectify her ability with this condition have made no sense at all.

She has simply made it up. Anita's claims center around an over-active imagination. She even admits that everything she "perceives" is just in her mind.

 

[Uncayimmy]

Anita,

Just because the counseling center did not approach you is no reason to believe that they didn't conclude there was a potential mental health issue. Nobody here believes that you are an immediate danger to yourself or others, which to the best of my knowledge is only reason they could actually approach you. Even then, I believe it would be the police who intervened, not the center.

I repeatedly extended an offer to pay out of my own pocket for a professional local to me to evaluate your writings. You have repeatedly ignored my offer. I now also offer to pay for your first appointment at the counseling center to be evaluated. What have you got to lose except a little time? Quite frankly, you've spent far more time arguing about it here than required for an appointment. When people I knew suggested I might be suffering depression, I went and saw someone.

Remember, when using my intuitive skills at diagnosing mental health, I have not had a single confirmed instance of being wrong.

 

[Ashles]

I've noticed she has moved from talking a lot about ESP at the start of the thread, then she was mentioning cold-reading a lot for a while, which has now been downgraded again to synesthesia which is what she is currently latching onto.
It all seems like gradual steps from an amazing paranormal ability to complete imagination so that if she ever does have a test (and obviously demonstrates no more paranormal ability than stale cheese) then she can pretend that the negative results were in line what she was thinking all along.

In fact it's actually very hard to know what Anita thinks the status of her ability is at the moment.

In the months she has been posting on this thread there seems to have been a complete disappearance of any actual ability.
It's strangely not happening to her anymore, certainly not in front of skeptics or Professors.

 

[Uncayimmy]

I haven't read the whole thread. Remind me or fill me in: How do you know this? Synesthesia isn't that uncommon. It's also not paranormal, nor does it translate into anything useful, necessarily. (So what if you perceive the number 9 as purple, or a G# seems 'smooth', for example. This, unfortunately, is not a deep insight into 9-ness or G#-ness, just a more-or-less arbitrary association made vivid)

There are two issues here. First, does she have synesthesia? She took an on-line assessment, which, like other on-line diagnostic tools, is designed to capture potential synesthetes rather than make a diagnosis. You choose the various types of synesthesia you believe you have. She choose several of them (the number 9 comes to mind). Only in one did she get the, "we should look into this more" result. I took two tests. On the second test I was able to manipulate it (by lying) to give me an extremely high score.

The second and more important issue is that synesthesia is no more likely than a broken leg to account for her perceptions. In my research I found nothing even remotely resembling what she describes. Synesthesia by definition is a crossing of the senses. She's talking about looking at a person and creating 3D imagery that she can manipulate spatially and zoom down to the subatomic level.

Her perceptions are either lies, an active imagination to which she assigns reality, or delusions. She keeps bringing it up as a cover for her belief that she has ESP. Her latest gambit is to approach the psychology students at her school. So naturally, synesthesia is back on the table. A few weeks ago she was saying it might be cold reading because she was dealing with skeptics.

 

[Ashles]

List of things Anita should do BEFORE making any further pointless posts that do absolutely nothing other than repeat claims and assertations made previously in this thread:

(N.B. these are ALL activities that ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is preventing Anita from doing and most of these she said she WOULD DO)

• Detail what happened in the Study on January 3rd (I think "eventually" has officially passed now)
• Fax the notes of said study to the contact details Unca Yimmy provided some time ago
• Run a test on identifying crystals (as she claimed she could do to an amazing degree)
• Provide the results of her analysis of Pup's pill experiment (even if the result are that she simply couldn't detect anything)
• Detail what exactly she wrote down regarding Wayne (providing a scan of her notes would be even better)

Any others I have missed?

 

[volatile]

Alright you whining skeptics. I see nothing but impatience here.

 

[Ashles]

Alright you whining skeptics. I see nothing but impatience here.

That's true, we can't wait for you to leap into inaction and do nothing again.

Or repeat your claims. Again.
Or write some more whiny complaints about how the world is against you. Again.
Or pretend to be about to do an investigation. Again.
Or make excuses about why you got Wayne's reading incorrect. Again.
Or make excuses about why you can't use anyone else's test protocols ever. Again.
Or go on about why you do/don't have synesthesia/delusion/amazing cold reading ability etc. Again.

Or ignore all of the bulleted acivities you could actually do which I detailed in the post right above the post you just made. Again.

'Impatience' implies frustration in waiting for something specific to happen. Whereas we don't think you are actually going to do anything. So I don't think 'impatience' is the correct word.

It's just amusing to watch what you will post next as an excuse (as opposed to, you now, actually doing something productive).

It can't be long now before you flounce out in a great show of drama vowing never to return. You haven't really got anywhere else to go with this claim. More posts won't help in any way, no matter what you write - you'll just be recycling old excuses and whines. You have made all the excuses you can for failing to test your 'ability' at all.

Anita you've obviously got sme time free this evening - why not do one of the bulleted activities mentioned above instead of witing yet another pointless essay that will not change anyone's opinion one iota about anything?

 

[nathan]

I see nothing but impatience here.

You're remarkably unobservant if you see nothing more than that! (or perhaps you're lying again)

 

[nathan]

It can't be long now before you flounce out in a great show of drama vowing never to return -- only to return a short while later.

There, fixed it for you.

 

[skeen]

Ah yes, the magical word that makes everything go away. Impatience.

 

[nathan]

Her latest gambit is to approach the psychology students at her school. So naturally, synesthesia is back on the table. A few weeks ago she was saying it might be cold reading because she was dealing with skeptics.

Yup, in this forum, the pool of unknownness has been used up. Anita has convinced noone. so now she's moved on to a new audience, and being psychology students, synesthesia's back on the table. The story will complete itself again with them. Anita, do come back here and let us know when the students have called you on your subterfuge. I wonder how long it will take ...

 

[skeen]

It will take as long as a Google search.

 

[Farencue]

I noticed yesterday that this thread dropped down to second from the bottom of the opening page in this section and was in danger of disappearing off the opening page completely.
I actually thought that would be a good thing - "FadingfromVision" - as this thread, in my opinion, is dead in the water.
I pointed this out to someone in my household and we wondered if the thread would in fact die or if someone would post to this thread to bump it up again.

Geez it really teaches us for "wondering" doesnt it?

 

[skeen]

Yup, I think we can now declare this thread deceased. Anita knows it, too; hence her recent frustration. It's over.

 

[Ashles]

It was inactive since 12 Feb and it was bumped by... [scrolls up to check] oh yes, Anita herself. What a surprise.
And she bumped it... why?
No new information, same old claims, just adding comments about another thread started on 30th January that is now closed.

And then, after 3 days of no comments on this thread, a period of inactivity which she herself ended, she then complains that she sees "nothing but impatience here"?

God she really does crave the attention doesn't she?

 

[skeen]

This word assimilation thing is so bizarre. Does she realize she's doing it? Does her brain shut off when we mention it?

And Ashes: wonderful summary. 3 days of no comments. Yep, that's impatience!

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

Alright you whining skeptics. I see nothing but impatience here.

Planning your exit strategy because your scam didnt work?

 

[Miss_Kitt]

Reprising post #2 in this thread

VisionFromFeeling's webpage:

http://www.visionfromfeeling.com/

Can you describe to us the ways you have tested yourself?

ETA: Welcome to the forums Anita

I am amused to look back at the beginning and realize that Professor Yaffle's request--the first reply to Anita's initial post--is still unanswered, with 63 pages of waffling, meandering, misrepresenting, changing stories, protesting innocence, and outright lying in between.

Months of time, hundreds of post, and she still hasn't actually tested herself--by her own admission, she has only done "surveys" or "studies", not tests.

My how time flies when you're desperately trying to salvage your illusions of specialness!