Vision From Feeling

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TheSkepticCanuck said:
No offence was taken. Was that on her web site? I don't recall seeing that on this or the moderated thread, and I have read both in their entirety.
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I've attached the IIG protocol in PDF form to this post. It's in this thread, but you gotta hunt for it. BTW, based on the IIG stuff I found on the web, she was doing most of the stalling (surprise). Last May they said, "We will contact Anita Ikonen via telephone, and make one last attempt to design a testing concept."

Indeed. Here we are. No further ahead with an actual testable claim after more than 1400 postings. At least it has been entertaining, and quite educational.
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I can't wait to buy the Vision From Feeling lunchbox!
 

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Diogenes said:
I still don't understand why, if she can see inside people, she needs to see the outside.

Let me guess.. It has something to do with vibrational resonance ...
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From Post #10

VisionFromFeeling said:
It seems that I need to look at the objects that I am viewing, even if only for a quick glance, possibly in order to know where their location is. Note however that most of the information I obtain is not derived from what I saw by looking at the objects in question. The information is most often too small, or hidden behind or beneath something that obscures it from view, as well as having no externally detectable signals.
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It seems a bit like using echo location to detect a target before zooming in with the x-ray vision. Maybe VfF is a bat from Krypton.
 
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Hokulele said:
Hell, I can draw unborn babies in great detail. Have you ever seen the results from an ultra-sound? Just get a fuzzy picture of Winston Churchill, trace, and orient as you wish. Voila!
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Actually, those 3D ultrasounds are pretty cool. Check this out (not my kid, but it's on Flickr, so I figure it's okay).
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And don't forget that 3D ultrasounds are based on vibrational information.It's right up her alley.

I predict VfF will claim that she can determine gender completely accurately in roughly half of the women she scans. :cool:
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Have you learned nothing? She will not be wrong at all. Of course, she won't say the gender if she can't read it. When she does, it won't be from cold reading. I mean, there's no way a prospective parent would use "he" or "she" while talking to her. Besides, how could she know that "Steven" is a boy's name? They don't have that name in Sweden.
 
"I can't wait to buy the Vision From Feeling lunchbox! "

I'm disappointed I thought that file attachent was going to be a picture of a funny lunchbox :(
 
UncaYimmy said:
Actually, those 3D ultrasounds are pretty cool. Check this out (not my kid, but it's on Flickr, so I figure it's okay).
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2340/2089752945_877d364b0a.jpg

And don't forget that 3D ultrasounds are based on vibrational information.It's right up her alley.
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I rest my case.

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Have you learned nothing? She will not be wrong at all. Of course, she won't say the gender if she can't read it. When she does, it won't be from cold reading. I mean, there's no way a prospective parent would use "he" or "she" while talking to her. Besides, how could she know that "Steven" is a boy's name? They don't have that name in Sweden.
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Well, I was trying to imply that she will have an out for the ones she doesn't want to read, but I like yours better. ;)
 
Hokulele said:
[qimg]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2340/2089752945_877d364b0a.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://www.solarnavigator.net/history/explorers_history/Potrait_of_Sir_Winston_Churchill.jpg[/qimg]

I rest my case.

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I'm still laughing as I type this. That was freaking hilarious! They should frame that and put it up in every OB-GYN office. I never knew!
 
desertgal said:
I can't understand why. With the exception of UncaYimmy's study protocol, it seems like the only purpose the JREF serves for Anita is some sort of self absorbed blog/whipping boy/mysterious testing ground.
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One other thing came out of it, which we haven't touched (pounced) on yet. She actually conducted her survey at the mall. She was strangely quiet about it. The only thing we know is that she didn't detect any vasectomies or breast implants. Beyond that she'll post the results "eventually."

I believe she really did it. I also believe that she found that she really couldn't read squat. I mean, this is this same woman who was all excited that she guessed that her friend had to pee. If she had found something worth noting, we would have heard about it.

It could be coincidence, but I recall a definite change in attitude in Anita recently. She was much more edgy. She called me rude and told me she resented certain remarks. More frowny faces appeared including the dreaded "triplet" of frowny faces. She did more lashing out than she ever did before.

Now, that *could* be because the discussion just went that direction. However, if you go back you can see a definite uptick in aggression starting January 3rd, the day after she did her mall study.

But that's just a minor point. The key here is that for the first time every she actually tried to figure out what she could see. Apparently, it wasn't diddly squat.

This, too, is puzzling. Why even mention it at all? It's almost like she wanted to get challenged on it. And she had to know that we would all give a collective, "No kidding?" when she told us that vasectomies and breast implants were off the table.
 
Do you folks recall Anita getting on my case about allegedly ignoring her PM requests to chat with her on Facebook? I got three in one night and saw her Facebook status read, "Waiting for UncaYimmy to show up" or some such nonsense. Ostensibly this was to help her develop her study protocol, which was separate from her survey.

I replied to her PMs and said that I was sorry I missed her. I gave her my e-mail address and told her to send any questions she had the following morning and that I would answer them ASAP. I didn't get any questions.

When we did chat the next day, she didn't ask me anything about the study. I asked her if there was anything she need to ask me about it, but she deftly changed the subject. I can't even recall how she did it. If you think you get a Wall o' Words here, try instant messaging with her.

Looks like more posturing and manipulation to me.
 
Gah. Now I feel like I am starting to read too much into the posts on this thread (as well as in the Moderated thread). Am I the only one to feel like there is a subtle misogyny going on at times? This jumped out at me when VfF believed Ashles was female.
 
Hokulele said:
Gah. Now I feel like I am starting to read too much into the posts on this thread (as well as in the Moderated thread). Am I the only one to feel like there is a subtle misogyny going on at times? This jumped out at me when VfF believed Ashles was female.
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In my "cold reading" of Anita in one of our chats, I "sensed" that she did not have any close female friends but that she had several close male friends. She told me I was right.

Why do you think I "sensed" that? Vibrational Information? ;)
 
I found this amusing: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7827761.stm

I've no idea about Anita's coffee intake, but it does mention students (and is careful to point out that correlation !necessarily= causation)

Edit:hm, can anyone else see a plant in that coffee picture? I didn't notice it until I'd had my espresso -- case proved!
 
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Well, for what it's worth, I put the envelope in the mail Monday, with the five common medicines, each crushed and colored reddish green with food coloring and in a separate numbered ziplock bag, along with a list of the medicines. The clerk said it would take two-three days officially to get there, but unofficially the mail is sometimes slow between here and the Carolinas so allow another couple days. I didn't include any uncrushed samples.
 
UncaYimmy said:
One other thing came out of it, which we haven't touched (pounced) on yet. She actually conducted her survey at the mall. She was strangely quiet about it. The only thing we know is that she didn't detect any vasectomies or breast implants. Beyond that she'll post the results "eventually."

I believe she really did it. I also believe that she found that she really couldn't read squat. I mean, this is this same woman who was all excited that she guessed that her friend had to pee. If she had found something worth noting, we would have heard about it.

It could be coincidence, but I recall a definite change in attitude in Anita recently. She was much more edgy. She called me rude and told me she resented certain remarks. More frowny faces appeared including the dreaded "triplet" of frowny faces. She did more lashing out than she ever did before.

Now, that *could* be because the discussion just went that direction. However, if you go back you can see a definite uptick in aggression starting January 3rd, the day after she did her mall study.

But that's just a minor point. The key here is that for the first time every she actually tried to figure out what she could see. Apparently, it wasn't diddly squat.

This, too, is puzzling. Why even mention it at all? It's almost like she wanted to get challenged on it. And she had to know that we would all give a collective, "No kidding?" when she told us that vasectomies and breast implants were off the table.
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Yes, I noticed that, too. I think she's starting to realize what a fool she's making of herself. Up-thread somewhere (after Jan. 3, I think) she wrote something along the lines of - 'And if it is cold reading, I'm amazingly good at it!', like she's beginning to actually believe that it's a possibility. There may be some hope, yet. ;)

But, I'm afraid she has so much ego invested in this that she just can't let it go. Over ten years of 'sooper powers', down the drain. :(
 
Jonquill said:
On her body art page she says "Expecting mothers, I can draw your unborn babies? I see unborn babies in great detail. "

How about an unborn baby gender test then, what could be simpler than that?

http://visionfromfeeling.com/bodyart.html
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Hmm... I guess for me, at least, all doubt is gone. This person is looking to get a foothold in the woo economy. I think that's been his/her intent all along. Color me underwhelmed.

Oh, did you get:
"Of course I can not guarantee that my impressions represent real tissue, it hasn't been "scientifically proven yet", but it represents the images that I see. "
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Oh boy!


M.
 
Moochie said:
Hmm... I guess for me, at least, all doubt is gone. This person is looking to get a foothold in the woo economy. I think that's been his/her intent all along. Color me underwhelmed.
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I agree.

WRT the "art work"...I wonder how accurate it is. I mean...she wants to draw unborn infants yet her hand looks like it belongs to Skeletor.
 
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