It's the old, 'But we are not the enemy. We are not the threat to you. Our enemy is the real threat.'
Theprestige is a big fan of American expansionism but preferably without Trump. A John Bolton would be more to his taste.
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Trump's US Threat to Greenland (which belongs to Denmark)
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Theprestige is a big fan of American expansionism but preferably without Trump. A John Bolton would be more to his taste.
Lukraak_Sisser
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To be fair Russia is ALSO a threat to Europe. But since the US is quickly morphing into an open Russian asset...
Notice that this is another one of those rifts in the MAGA movement.
I see the same thing in the case of the 'Havana syndrome': Many Republicans would like to go to war with Russia and claim that declassification of documents in the case would prove that Putin microwaved the brains of American diplomats. For the same reason, they want still more investigations into the 'syndrome'. I assume that the AI that generated RFK Jr.'s recent MAHA's report could also generate a number of fake sources showing that the Indies short-tailed crickets were trained by GRU agents.
I think European/NATO attempts to Make Crimea Ukrainian Again are the most serious threat to peace in the region, but that's a discussion for another thread.
I see the same thing in the case of the 'Havana syndrome': Many Republicans would like to go to war with Russia and claim that declassification of documents in the case would prove that Putin microwaved the brains of American diplomats. For the same reason, they want still more investigations into the 'syndrome'. I assume that the AI that generated RFK Jr.'s recent MAHA's report could also generate a number of fake sources showing that the Indies short-tailed crickets were trained by GRU agents.
I think European/NATO attempts to Make Crimea Ukrainian Again are the most serious threat to peace in the region, but that's a discussion for another thread.
Watch: Hegseth suggests Pentagon has 'contingency' plans to take Greenland by force (BBC video, June 12, 2025 - 1:26 min.)
Hegseth testifies Pentagon has "plans for any contingency" when asked about taking over Greenland by force (CBS News, June 12, 2025)
Hegseth testifies Pentagon has "plans for any contingency" when asked about taking over Greenland by force (CBS News, June 12, 2025)
It's fairly obvious that it is his testimony!
European favourability of the USA falls following the return of Donald Trump (YouGov.co.uk, March 4, 2025)
Attitudes in Denmark in particular have become more negative
Seen here first (at 4:34):
Video Of AKWARD MOMENT Between Trump & Dutch Queen LEAKS (Occupy Democrats on YouTube, June 27, 2025 - 5:21 min.)
Attitudes in Denmark in particular have become more negative
At least in Denmark, I think it may have deteriorated further since then.
Seen here first (at 4:34):
Video Of AKWARD MOMENT Between Trump & Dutch Queen LEAKS (Occupy Democrats on YouTube, June 27, 2025 - 5:21 min.)
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All of us Euro-weenies are just intimidated by his awesomeness and overwhelming "Alpha" vibes.
If we weren't such cucks we'd love him as much as the Americans do - and in the polls he sees his approval rating is at 90% and climbing.
Listen, I get that, according to Denmark, Greenland's fate is up to Greenland. I'm just saying, I see the thread title and can't help but think, it really belongs to Greenland. Silly thing, I know, pet peeve on the internet really.
arthwollipot
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Greenland has been a part of the Kingdom of Denmark since 1814. Over the years it has been granted more and more autonomy, but it is still under Danish rule. In fact, the Danish monarchy retains more control over Greenland than the British monarchy retains over Australia.
a_unique_person
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Is Greenland a viable country by itself? It takes in more money than it contributes.
EHocking
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At the moment they seem to be quite dependent on Denmark. Nearly half of their state revenue and 1/4 of their GDP comes from the Danes. They’d have to enter into financial agreements (minerals etc?) with other foreign countries to fence themselves, it seems.
Interesting article here :
The Future of Greenland: Is Greenlandic independence viable?
This voices article explores the niche question of the possibility of Greenlandic independence in the future. Our student contributors have focused on aspects of the issue regarding security, culture and economics.Greenland is perhaps best described as a geopolitical oddity. As one of the last...
www.grimshawclub.org
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Blue Mountain
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The interesting (or scary) part of the poll is it's from November 2024, before Trump took office and started running around like a bull in a china shop.
I'm not sure how you would define the Danish monarchy, but I am pretty sure that King Frederik has no control over Greenland whatsoever. Much the same way that Greenland has been granted more and more autonomy over the years, Danish kings and queens have lost control of The Danish Realm. Control of the Danish Realm is in the hands of Folketinget, i.e. the Danish parliament, and the parliaments of Greenland and the Faroe Islands.
The point of royal families in constitutional monarchies is to represent their respective countries symbolically and only symbolically. They are symbols of nationalism, which only work as such if and because they stay out of politics. As such, they serve to unite people in a country divided by economic, social and political interests.
It becomes most apparent on New Year's Eve when the speeches of two people are broadcast to the nation: the prime minister's and the king's (currently) or queen's (for the past more-than 50 years). Half of the people listening to those speeches (some years a little more, some years a little less) can't stand whoever is prime minister at the time because of his/her politics. But more or less everybody (I'm not one of them) likes the monarch's speech because the monarch stays out of politics, has to stay out of politics, and makes no decisions.
They have something similar in some democracies that aren't monarchies. In Germany, for instance, they have a Bundeskanzler (chancellor) and a Bundespräsident. The former is the head of government, i.e. the prime minister. The latter does what monarchs do in constitutional monarchies: represent the nation but without much actual power:
What is the difference between a chancellor, e.g. German chancellor and a president? (Quora - Daniel Plomp)
In the USA, it is apparent that there is no such symbolic figure uniting the nation. The rift between the class that makes political decisions, i.e. the oligarchs, and the people who are governed by that class has become too big to be bridged by the presidency even though he does represent both sides - in a way: He issues policies that serve the oligarchs, but he presents himself as a 'man of the people,' an enemy of the elites, to his fans, but since the people whose 'man' he is is defined by race and not all white people are old-fashioned racists anymore, it only serves to exacerbate the already existing rift.
King Frederik can go to Greenland and represent The Danish Realm and be accepted by Greenlanders as the representative of The Danish Realm because he doesn't get to make any policy decisions, i.e. because he has no actual control of anything.
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No, not true, but it's easy to overlook, unfortunately:
"Latest data: 5-18 February 2025"
The graphs are based on three polls: Aug 2024, Nov 2024 (post election), and Feb 2025.
By the way, I think that Spain's favorability towards the USA may have fallen even more since February:
DEMONSTRATION ALERT (U.S. Embassy & Consulate in Span and Andorra, June 13, 2025)
The protests are not currently directed against Americans in particular. However, ...
US Buyers Are Leading Foreign Purchasers of Property in Spain (Realty+, April 11, 2025)
'Trump Nightmare' Fuels Record Exodus of Americans to Spain (The Daily Beast, May 15, 2025)
The big U.S. exodus to Spain, Trump blamed (Majorca Daily Bulletin, May 16, 2025)
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arthwollipot
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According to Wikipedia:
That's more control than the UK monarch has over Australia, where all of those portfolios are under the control of the Australian government. That's what I'm saying.
a_unique_person
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One environmental factor could be the harshness and remoteness.Inequalityvs.
I just noticed this:
Life expectancy 1978 --> 2022:
74.39 --> 81.40
I googled "average life span greenland."
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But as Dann said, it's the government that has that control. Not the monarch.
In the same way the Dutch government has control over the Dutch Antilles, but not the monarch.
Unlike the US presidency, which is based upon the powers monarchs had in the late 1700's, our monarchies transferred such powers to the elected government.
theprestige
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All the real power in America is in the senate.