You complain about people in this thread not being nice enough to trans people all the damn time...
Not true. I couldnt care less if you/they are nice or not. Also, I notice that you have yet again not acknowledged the lies you have yet again told about me and my positions, called out yet again.
but you simultaneously feel justified calling many of us "bleating half wits" as if that's somehow acceptable.
The lies you post about me and my positions are far more unacceptable. Yet here you go again.
Regarding the actual point here... you keep doing the thing that you accuse me (and others) of doing: you ignore what we say over and over and over again, you rub your own interpretation onto it and then regurgitate it as if it's absolute truth. At NO POINT WHATSOEVER have any of us lumped everyone into one or two groups.
The ◊◊◊◊ you haven't. (g-you). A few posters here have repeatedly said they are all mentally ill or faking, without exception.
And over and over again, we do NOT dehumanize them. YOU dehumanize them, by using blatantly derogatory language, but you seem to think it's okay, because you're forcing those slurs into our mouths.
When you stop making up medical diagnoses for them and retweeting the worst of the worst as if they are representative, you can mount that high horse. Till then. your fig leaf slurs are far worse than my sardonic ones.
Over and over again, each and every one of us has been explicitly clear that:
- Some transgender identified people genuinely have a crossed wire
Bull ◊◊◊◊. You give a nodding lip service to that once every ten pages in between your 'look at the perverted criminal!" posts (again, g-you).
- Some transgender identified people are mislead autistic people who have latched onto the idea of transgender as a panacea for a complex issue
Bull ◊◊◊◊. 'Each and every one of you' make no such arguments at all.
- Some transgender identified people are victims of sexual abuse who are fleeing their sexed body
Bull ◊◊◊◊. 'Each and every one of you' make no such arguments at all, and don't think that's a thing anyway.
- Some transgender identified people are simply children who are afraid of puberty and have been led down a medicalization path that pathologizes the natural development process of humans
Bull ◊◊◊◊. 'Each and every one of you' make no such arguments at all. Also, I don't think it's s fear of puberty so much as a child's confusion about gender, and they shouldn't let a child make such decisions tolk they grow into adulthood and get their heads sorted out.
- and some of them are predators and perverts exploiting the gigantic gaping loophole created by the notion of self-declared gender-identity being a protected category
One of the biggest stumbling blocks for you is that you completely sidestep all of the first four items, and you absolutely latch on to the last one as if it's the only thing anyone has ever said.
There are dozens of tweetys posted weekly about just such an issue. Can you post a single one where someone on your side posts about compassion for those with a crossed wire or anything showing the most feeble attempts at understanding at all? Just one? I'll bet you can't. But I'll bet if you can, I can cite 20 'lookit the criminal pervert' tweetys, half of them factually untrue. Because if there is one thing engagement ITT has shown me, it's that your side consistently shows contempt for the truth, no matter what it is.
And to make matters worse, over and over again you deny that any predators and perverts exist,
That is a lie. You have posted another lie. You are a liar. Please stop.
you downplay the risk, you hand-wave it away. You essentially take the position that the last bullet is entirely made up and we're all just hysterical bigots. And when you're given support for actual perverts and predators, you come up with some excuse for why they're either not actually perverts (for example, the male with a history of sex offenses wasn't being a perv by exposing their penis and scrotum in a spa full of females who didn't consent, because it's legal for them to do that because they say they identify as a woman") or you decide that they're "not really trans" so they don't count. Over and over again, you end up pretending that NONE of them are predators or perverts.
That is a lie. You have posted another lie. You are a liar.
I've said Merager was a perv by any standard. What I doubted is that he is trans. You guys like to say "lookit, them trannys is pervs!" and then when I agree that the guy is a perv, but point out that he doesn't appear to be trans, nor did the super trans-accomidating state of California consistently refer to him as a woman/she in his trial. Merager himself said he didn't care which pronouns were used. Because he ain't trans. He's an opportunistic perv, already convicted of indecent exposure.
And thats the thing. You a nd others start out saying "the trans are all violent perverts", then move the goalposts to "well ok he's not trans, he's cis". That's what I am arguing against. Those are two different arguments, about two different problems. You just blur the line at your convenience.
But let me repeat this for you again (so you can lie about the same thing in a couple pages): Merager was a perv, and shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near a nude spa as a convicted sex offender. The management might have been hip to this, because they left instructions at the front desk not to allow him in. Someone dropped the ball, and it's still not clear why or how.
Please don't lie about me anymore. I have never excused Merager on any grounds.
And then you get contemptuous and condescending toward us as a result of you refusing to acknowledge that at least some of them are predators and perverts. At this point, I cannot understand your approach.
That is a lie. You have posted another lie. You are a liar.
Oh FFS. I thought that obvious illustrative hyperbole was obvious.
Serious question: What percent of predators and perverts do you think that females should be obligated to tolerate and not say anything bad about them?
The question is meaningless. Can you clarify it?
No one should have to tolerate predators and perverts for any reason (although you probably do everyday, multiple times, albeit unwittingly). You can go nuts saying bad things about them. I have said this repeatedly. So is your question assuming yet another lie about my position, or did you forget some nouns or adjectives?
