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Today's Mass Shooting

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shemp said:
Here's your White Terrorist Bingo Card. Have fun playing!
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Not that different then the old, old, "but he was such a quiet guy" comment about mass murderers.
That has been going on so long it was poked fun at in the 1987 Shcharnegger film "The Running Man".
 
Thermal said:
Most popular rifle in the US: also AR-15.

Coincidence...or something more?

Eta: also, AR manufacturers and their clones wish to express indignation for ommiting Kyle Rittenhouse and the other low-kill shooters. ARs aren't just for mass murder, ya know.
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I also think more Americans are familiar with the AR 15 than any other rifle for one basic reason.
Different versions of it have been the Standard rifle for the US military for nearly sixty years. First entered US Service As the M 16.in 1965, by 1968 it has pretty much replaced the M 14 as the standard service rifle and has been so, in different models, ever since.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
This is exactly the trap that progressives have fallen into for decades now: instead of agreeing that we have a problem that needs fixing, and then researching what action would help mitigate the problem, people who want no change at all demand a ready-made solution that is also politically expedient.

But that is just demonstrably false: we first agree, as a society, that we do want progress on an issue, and then elect/task people with fixing it.

So my question would be: do you think that the proliferation of guns in the US causes problems that need solving, and that would be alleviated if we had better control over who has what kind of gun?
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But what constitutes solving, and how much control?
And I might argue the opposite:Progressives keep on pushing solutions that fit theri ideology despite the fact that there is not that much support for them.
 
Locally, there have been a bunch of threats of attacks at the surrounding grocery stores (Wegmans, Sam's Club, Wal-Mart, last I heard) that the police are aware of and looks like some internet sluths (also local) have traced at least one back to a local known racist high school kid, so it will be interesting to see how that shakes out. The specific threat is an attack between 16:00-20:00 on all black shoppers.

Also, a black family in Niagara Falls woke up to 'Kill all (n words)' spray painted on their fence. The near by Home Depot sent over their team and instead of repainting the fence, completely replaced it. Again, this has been attributed to local racist white teens.

Even more locally to me, a bunch of people are blaming Biden and the Democrats and saying **** him for announcing he's going to visit the families. For some reason a bunch of these...neighbors of mine to be polite, have gotten the marching order to point out he didn't visit the families of the people killed by the black nationalist on the Brooklyn subway. That would be hard to do as no one died in that one as far as I know.

I had good reason to think the shooter came from one of the people in this county.
 
smartcooky said:
Right there is the reason why this scumbag should not have been able to obtain a gun of any kind. Being on a law enforcement watchlist should be an automatic fail in a background check.
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I agree 100%.
I understand he did nothing the cops cold take him in on, but they can place him on a watch list which would forbid his buying firearms until such time as is taken off the watch list.
 
Checkmite said:
The white replacement conspiracy theory holds that Jews, recognizing the cultural and biological superiority of the white/European race (which they are separate from), are secretly manipulating world events and social structures in order to reduce whites to a minority even in historically majority-white nations and regions. They're doing this in two ways - firstly by inventing and promoting technologies and social attitudes (like liberalism, soy foods, interracial marriage, etc) that directly reduce the white birth rate, and secondly by causing or instigating things like refugee migrations, migrant caravans, etc to flood white countries with non-white people who reproduce at higher rates.

It is one of the oldest "Jewish conspiracy" theories and is the specific brand of antisemitism that motivated Adolf Hitler and Henry Ford.
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It was even poked fun at in "The Blues Brothers" when the Illinois Nazi Leader says in his speech "The Jews are using the Blacks as muscle to take over America".
 
Bogative said:
I don't care.

The California church shooting was an inconvenient hate crime.

Chinese on Taiwanese, motivated by hate. Time to move on and focus solely on the white on black mass shooting.
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Young white guy kills 10 and declares racism is his motive.

Older immigrant from China has a beef with some Taiwanese and kills one (though I'l be surprised if that number doesn't increase in that the wounded are elderly and in critical condition).

One of these things are not like the other even though you seem to think they should have equal coverage. It has nothing to do with the latter being an inconvenient hate crime, it's a hate crime that has little to do with most Americans. Whereas the former example does have to do with most of us.

Do you need a further explanation of the differences?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Young white guy kills 10 and declares racism is his motive.

Older immigrant from China has a beef with some Taiwanese and kills one (though I'l be surprised if that number doesn't increase in that the wounded are elderly and in critical condition).

One of these things are not like the other even though you seem to think they should have equal coverage. It has nothing to do with the latter being an inconvenient hate crime, it's a hate crime that has little to do with most Americans. Whereas the former example does have to do with most of us.

Do you need a further explanation of the differences?
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As well, I'm literally watching the news and they talk about the Church shooting as a Hate Crime. Absolutely being covered.

The racists in the thread can suck it.
 
I saw an interesting bit on the Buffalo shooter tonight. It seems along with his usual idiocy, large parts of his manifesto are taken verbatim from the Christchurch shooter's screed. Lazy copycatting indeed.
 
bruto said:
I saw an interesting bit on the Buffalo shooter tonight. It seems along with his usual idiocy, large parts of his manifesto are taken verbatim from the Christchurch shooter's screed. Lazy copycatting indeed.
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I'm saying it for years .. American mass shootings happen partly simply because it's in. It's not just about gun culture .. it's also mass shooting culture.
Controlling media could IMHO help greatly. Sure, citizens should know. But simple statistic once per month should be enough. Nobody needs to know political opinions of the shooter, what gun he used, and what shirt he worse. Especially videos from the shooting should be big no-no.

But that's not so easy in free society and with internet.
 
Dr.Sid said:
I'm saying it for years .. American mass shootings happen partly simply because it's in. It's not just about gun culture .. it's also mass shooting culture.
Controlling media could IMHO help greatly. Sure, citizens should know. But simple statistic once per month should be enough. Nobody needs to know political opinions of the shooter, what gun he used, and what shirt he worse. Especially videos from the shooting should be big no-no.

But that's not so easy in free society and with internet.
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Great idea, I'm sure this would not be abused by the Warp12s and Bogatives of this world...."THE MEDIA won't tell you this, but the shooter was just overwhelmed by the huge numbers of illegal blacks and latinos!!!!!!"
 
Thermal said:
Most popular rifle in the US: also AR-15.

Coincidence...or something more?

Eta: also, AR manufacturers and their clones wish to express indignation for ommiting Kyle Rittenhouse and the other low-kill shooters. ARs aren't just for mass murder, ya know.
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It's a bit of feedback loop. The AR-15 is popular because it's cheap, widely available, and widely understood and supported by the US market. It was pretty unique when first designed decades ago, but there has been gobs of convergent evolution in the intervening times.

That said, if you waved your magic wand and made it disappear, its other less common, more expensive, and more exotic competitors would gradually become more popular, cheaper, and more understood to fill the void.

There's really nothing that special about the AR-15 that banning it alone would change much about the landscape beyond the very short term. The race to make the $600 AR-15 substitute would have many capable competitors.
 
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