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Thoughts arising from police bodycam footage

theprestige said:
Precision Immobilization Maneuver. It's a way of using your vehicle to strike another vehicle on a rear corner, such that it swerves out of control and comes to a halt. At higher speeds, rollovers can occur. It's a police tool for forcefully ending a vehicle pursuit.
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I'm very amused by the inclusion of the word "precision" there.
 
Brainster said:
No of course not, so therefore we should get rid of all cops. Hell, we should get rid of doctors, because some of them are crappy too. In fact, it's crap all the way down.
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No it means you have to have a way to prevent getting ◊◊◊◊ in the ice cream in the first place.


That said I have watched a lot of the police bodycam/person videoing themselves footage and I do think a lot of USA police officers need medals for how patient they are when dealing with idiots. For examples go to Van Balion Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/@VanBalion and look at the "sovereign citizens" videos - but not the more recent Florida ones as Florida seems to have cottoned onto the fact that the idiots can't be reasoned with so are no longer giving them many, many chances to comply with lawful commands.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Good doctors and hospitals don't tend to cover for bad doctors who get people killed.
In your analogy, no hospital would report a doctor who had killed a number of patients, and another hospital would hire him without knowing.

People should check the full quote of the expression "a few bad apples".
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Or "not all priests"....yeah, it's true, not all priests. But the ones who do, and then the hierarchy which acts to conceal, protect, deny their deeds...
 
Resume said:
In every state a driver is required to ID on a traffic stop or be subject to arrest. In many states, if you are lawfully detained, you also must ID. RAS can apply if you are simply loitering, prowling, or trespassing in some jurisdictions
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I accept there are exceptions based on circumstances and on which state one is in. The fact remains that there seem to be a startling number of US police officers who think they can make unconstitutional demands of members of the public.
 
3point14 said:
I accept there are exceptions based on circumstances and on which state one is in. The fact remains that there seem to be a startling number of US police officers who think they can make unconstitutional demands of members of the public.
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It is not unconstitutional for a cop to ask you to ID; they can ask all they want. Whether or not you comply is up to you. The unconstitutional part is when they demand or "force" you into ID-ing beyond a lawful stop or outside of RAS. Many frauditors get this wrong, intentionally (for clicks and views) or not.
 
Darat said:
No it means you have to have a way to prevent getting ◊◊◊◊ in the ice cream in the first place.


That said I have watched a lot of the police bodycam/person videoing themselves footage and I do think a lot of USA police officers need medals for how patient they are when dealing with idiots. For examples go to Van Balion Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/@VanBalion and look at the "sovereign citizens" videos - but not the more recent Florida ones as Florida seems to have cottoned onto the fact that the idiots can't be reasoned with so are no longer giving them many, many chances to comply with lawful commands.
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Thank you for an hour or so of absolute hilarity. I encountered quite a few of the sovcits back in the 9-11 Truther debunking days, but I've never had the pleasure of observing their interactions with cops and judges; the latter are quite a bit less patient.
 
Brainster said:
Thank you for an hour or so of absolute hilarity. I encountered quite a few of the sovcits back in the 9-11 Truther debunking days, but I've never had the pleasure of observing their interactions with cops and judges; the latter are quite a bit less patient.
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It is astounding that folks are attempting this nonsense to this very day, even though it has been thoroughly debunked . . . wait a minute, I forgot where I was.

Here's a recent example of sovcit stupidity:

The stop and arrest is mostly a view of the sovcit's lap, but the arraignment starts at 17:42. She is actually reading from a script, but to no avail. If this crap goes to trial, it will be epic.
 
malbui said:
It's an ancient charter or something. In the same way that in every single bond hearing the defendant is starting a new job next Monday.
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It always cracks me up, "I had two drinks". Maybe it was two 40 ouncers. But yeah, always two drinks. Not four, not one, but two. Like that's the magic number to get away with it.
 
One drink is always a lie. Three drinks means you are drunk. So you always go with two drinks.
 
William Parcher said:
One drink is always a lie. Three drinks means you are drunk. So you always go with two drinks.
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What kind of lightweight is considered officially drunk with three? The same kind of person who thinks Taco Bell is too spicy for their digestive system?

Mind, I'd never drive after even one, but saying you're officially drunk with three? My server's license says you're probably a 14 year old girl stealing beer from your older brother.
 
Three standard drinks and you're probably over the legal limit for driving. Depending on your body weight and how quickly you drank them.
 
theprestige said:
Precision Immobilization Maneuver. It's a way of using your vehicle to strike another vehicle on a rear corner, such that it swerves out of control and comes to a halt. At higher speeds, rollovers can occur. It's a police tool for forcefully ending a vehicle pursuit.
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Saw this storefront as I was driving by it a few days ago, thought it was kinda funny. Apparently it's a real driving education center.


Drivers Ed Washington State | Washington Driving School | GoSwerve.com
 
Joe Random said:
What kind of lightweight is considered officially drunk with three? The same kind of person who thinks Taco Bell is too spicy for their digestive system?

Mind, I'd never drive after even one, but saying you're officially drunk with three? My server's license says you're probably a 14 year old girl stealing beer from your older brother.
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Not drunk. Impaired.
 
arthwollipot said:
I feel obliged to post a link to this joke.
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Good joke.

Funnily enough, American cops don't tell you to count to ten. They just tell you to blow until told to stop. This is somewhat stressful, as you're rapidly running out of air, with no end in sight.

Also, in practice (at least in the US), the breathalyzer is the last thing they do. It comes after noting an odor of alcohol, glassy eyes, slurred speech, etc. And after the standardized field sobriety tests. At which point, a faulty breathalyzer can't save you. Honestly I'm not sure why they bother.

Still a good joke, though.
 
theprestige said:
Good joke.

Funnily enough, American cops don't tell you to count to ten. They just tell you to blow until told to stop. This is somewhat stressful, as you're rapidly running out of air, with no end in sight.

Also, in practice (at least in the US), the breathalyzer is the last thing they do. It comes after noting an odor of alcohol, glassy eyes, slurred speech, etc. And after the standardized field sobriety tests. At which point, a faulty breathalyzer can't save you. Honestly I'm not sure why they bother.

Still a good joke, though.
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Field sobriety tests are a joke actually.
 
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