arthwollipot
Observer of Phenomena, Pronouns: he/him
Icelandic is directly descended from Old Norse. It's the closest to what you'd hear Vikings speaking.
there is a law inside the alphabet
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junkshop
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OK. Not seeing how that's relevant to English losing its Thorn due to Caxton's non-Anglophone typesetters not having that letterform in their cases.
Aw cmon, Junk. This is one of our sandbox threads. We all get to
play in it.
And the loss of Þ and thorn is a standing grief to Anglo-Saxons all
over the world.
Thermal
August Member
Your post formatting is like a slightly tripping haiku. In the good way, of course.
arthwollipot
Observer of Phenomena, Pronouns: he/him
junkshop
Otto's Favourite
It has a pleasing arythmical bounce to it, like a Citroën.
Trebuchet
Penultimate Amazing
Puyallup.
malbui
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When I saw the genius that is Vikingur Olafsson play at Operaen in Oslo this autumn, he joked after the concert that he didn't know whether to speak to the audience in Icelandic, Old Norse or English. Fortunately for me he chose English.
Gulliver Foyle
Philosopher
Good moaning!Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once.... looks like they are trying to say allo, allo
alphabetlaw2018
New Blood
Since ancient time, it has always been the central intention of the “alphabet people” for symbols to represent the speech sounds; since ancient time “alphabet people” has been looking into the human speech sounds for discovering the vowels and consonants, just like panning for the gold element. They knew those were the elemental sounds of the human speech.
Latin Based Alphabets:
Both English Alphabet and Vietnamese Alphabet are Latin based Alphabets. English’s Latin based alphabet has it’s beginning many hundreds of years before Vietnamese’s Latin based alphabet. Vietnamese Writing has it's foundation laid down by Francisco De Pina, a Portuguese Jesuit missionary who arrived to Vietnam in 1617. English Writing has a helper, the IPA Association, which was established in 1886, and the IPA Alphabet which was published in 1888.
The English’s Latin Based Alphabet:
English Writing uses Spelling for its orthography. English Writing has 26 alphabet letters. Within those are five letters (A, E, O, U, and I) for making vowels, and one more letter (Y) which is also for making a couple of vowels and also it has the spelling power for making a consonant (a consonant which makes a sound that is similar to Z); and then the rest of the other remaining letters are B, C, D, F, G, H, J, K, L, M, N, P, Q, R, S, T, V, W, X, and Z are for making consonants with various nature: some, sometimes, are silent; and some are similar in sounds; and some have sounds like they have a vowel inside of them.
Most importantly, English Writing has names for those alphabet letters, because to remember their names is easier than to remember their sounds. And the most popular way to remember their names is to sing the Alphabet Song.
Vietnamese’s Latin Based Alphabet:
According to many internet websites, as of 20 of December of 2025, the Vietnamese Alphabet has 29 letters, and each letter has a name, a sound, an uppercase, and a lowercase, pretty much in line with “IPA Linguistics”. Several of those versions of alphabets have a slight different to each other. They all claimed it to be from the Ministry of Education and Training, (www.moet.gov.vn, can’t be reach), and I have never seen the actual official alphabet.
The State of Linguistics:
Linguistics is in a state where it has not found any unified law for the alphabet other than the International Phonetic Association's IPA Alphabet, (which is why I named it “IPA Linguistics”).
Wudang
BOFH
I like both English and Vietnamese salads but not word salad. It's not even wrong.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Yes, and…?
Pointless info dumping isn’t as fun for reader as it is for the writer, in any alphabet.
Pointless info dumping isn’t as fun for reader as it is for the writer, in any alphabet.
junkshop
Otto's Favourite
Yes, that is the purpose of writing: to record speech and/or thoughts. What is your point? What is this 'law' you claim to have discovered?
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Wudang
BOFH
Info? There's a couple of badly digested factoids in there like sweetcorn kernels in a turd. Neither make the whole any better by their presence.
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Thermal
August Member
What is your problem? The letters L, A, and W are inside the alphabet. QED, not coincidentally also inside the alphabet.
EHocking
Penultimate Amazing
Maybe it is a hidden warning? Remember the letters A, H, I, R and S are also coincidentally inside the alphabet .
Thermal
August Member
I'd prefer an erotic 26 Shades of Grey.
junkshop
Otto's Favourite
I refer you my earlier post in this thread. I also would note that the OP has not yet identified nor described the 'law' they claim to have found in the alphabet, all they have done is draw a stick figure with letters.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Maybe the law is that special place inside each of us...
All seriousness aside, his graphic contains more than just stick figures. He basically says that if you simplify vowel sounds, they can be shoehorned into three subvowels for each of five primary vowels. And he was able to discover this despite only a rudimentary understanding of two of the world's languages—and they utterly unrelated to each other.
Poor Professor Higgins.
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
AOWWWW! Cor blimey!
