Wudang
BOFH
Because it's made like sausages? I heard that somewhere.
there is a law inside the alphabet
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Because you don't want to see how the sausage or law is made!?
JayUtah
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Note how you were able to express a specific pronunciation using an idiom of English spelling and we all heard the sounds correctly in our minds.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Also, you will hear lots of different pronunciations in American law for prima facie, but you can bet that no lawyer will use the classical pronunciation in open court.
Wudang
BOFH
Wandering off further, one of the most interesting things I read on language was a postgrad paper from around 1981. The author discussed all current models of anaphoric resolution and their strengths and weaknesses and edge cases they failed on. His piece de resistance was something no model at the time could explain
"The boy stood on the burning deck,
picking his nose like mad.
He rolled it into little balls
and flung it at his dad."
"The boy stood on the burning deck,
picking his nose like mad.
He rolled it into little balls
and flung it at his dad."
The one legal podcast I listen to will occasional make note of judges and lawyers' ability to avoid saying certain words and phrases or note how everyone in a courtroom will pronounce a word differently.
EHocking
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The less enlightened use it as a derogatory term for LGBTQ+
JimOfAllTrades
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I subscribed to both the RobWords and Words Unraveled channels in the last year and they're both pretty fascinating.
P.J. Denyer
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Maybe they're related to the Potato People?
P.J. Denyer
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arthwollipot
Observer of Phenomena, Pronouns: he/him
That's the only way I've heard the term used.
I did, and I got a series of children's books about famous women whose names start with the various letters. The term "alphabetties" had no matches on Google.
Rolfe
Adult human female
It came up for me but I suppose these things are personalised. The complainers in the Alex Salmond prosecution were anonymised, and designated by letters of the alphabet. "Woman H" is the one who seems on the face of it to have committed blatant perjury but is getting away with it. Perhaps this article may help.
grousebeater.wordpress.com
I know who woman H is, and several of the others, but like everyone else, I'd be jailed for contempt of court if I told you.
Alphabet Women
The article republished below appeared on the Grouse Beater timeline. It is under the off-putting blog title ‘Off-Topic, a site clearly supportive of Scotland’s right to self-determinat…
grousebeater.wordpress.com
I know who woman H is, and several of the others, but like everyone else, I'd be jailed for contempt of court if I told you.
JimOfAllTrades
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Well, they do have "i"s.
junkshop
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Google employees?
alphabetlaw2018
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"The Deseret alphabet was based on the 1847 version of Isaac Pitman's English Phonotypic Alphabet", it says.
"The IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) was created by the International Phonetic Association, founded in Paris in 1886 by language teachers (led by Paul Passy and Henry Sweet) to standardize phonetic transcription, replacing messy systems for teaching foreign languages. It began with symbols for English, French, and German but evolved into a universal, language-neutral system...", Google Ai says.
The IPA alphabet has undergo several revisions since then, because it is an ongoing alphabet.
Norman Alexander
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I prefer ASCII to EBCDIC.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Yes, and ... ?
The International Phonetic Alphabet is very important to people who want to accurately represent phonemes from any language. It's also quite unwieldy for simply the number of symbols you have to learn and figure out how to reproduce faithfully. The notion of simplifying and standardizing English spelling is only tangentially related. Pitman is most famous for his shorthand, which allows a stenographer to write English phonetically using a very simplified set of symbols that could be written as fast as a person talks. I still have some old "steno" pads: spiral bound at the top with a line down the center. You write shorthand in left column and then transcribe it to ordinary English spelling in the right column later when you have more time. Pitman's extension of written shorthands to printed phonetic alphabets was a valiant attempt that seems to have stuck more where I live than anywhere else. But it still didn't catch on.
It's not hard to come up with new symbols to represent sounds. What's hard is getting people to stop using the system they already have and adopt your new symbols. We like rough, through, cough, though, and bough even though they're objectively dumb and difficult.
JayUtah
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Who doesn't? Whoever thought it was a good idea to break up the encodings for the Roman alphabet and allow them to be a non-contiguous range? I assume that was all Hollerith's fault.
The one good thing I liked was when MTS (a variant operating system for the IBM 370) filled your program's data space with a "core constant" before it ran your program. The constant was lower case a in EBCDIC, which looks like 'a' when you interpret it as text, 0x81 in hexadecimal, and 10000001 in binary—all easy to remember and easy to spot values. Consequently it was easy to tell in crash dumps which parts of your memory had been used and which remained initialized and untouched. As a young twentysomething trying to program engineering solutions in assembly (or Evil Fortran), that helped.
alphabetlaw2018
New Blood
these are Google Ai answers:
how many conlang alphabets are there ?
what is difference between a conlang alphabet and a real alphabet ?
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Yes, and ... ?
