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The Police & The Film-maker - Me!

Darren Pollard

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I don't know about you guys, but I tend to stand up for myself & do my own thinking. I am not anti-police, but I am anti-corrupt police. As a film-maker I have come up against the police for filming in public, which is quite legal in the UK. Here's a few vids of the police coming over to me to try to stop me from filming them. It's not as though I filmed them beating some-one up or anything. So what is on thier minds?

The Police and The Film-maker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alpq9O5li9E

The Police State is Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh4R0ZLpjNg

The Police - Your Freindly Guides
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfQrDK9YHas

The Police - Siezing My Tape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYCjA7goCpQ

The Police Stalk My Family & I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW6bAKlGtHg

Under Surveillance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj-imN-f8NM

Constructive comments welcome!
 
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You do not listen; you are a pain. Interfering with Police and threatening them with, "I got you on film". That could be your problem.

OMG, you stalk the police. You bait them. You are funny. The old golden rule in reverse.
 
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They should have arrested you for crimes against fashion, for the Jamaican T-shirt with three Rastafarian dolphins ;)
 
If the OP was trying to impress us,he failed miserably. He comes off like a punk suffering from a bad case "I Hate All Authority" rather then somebody actually trying to do something about abuses by the police.
 
You do not listen; you are a pain. Interfering with Police and threatening them with, "I got you on film". That could be your problem.

OMG, you stalk the police. You bait them. You are funny. The old golden rule in reverse.
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Ha ha:D Made me laugh! On a serious note, why should I listen to someone telling me lies and trying to stop me from making a living, as a film-maker, and try to set me up for a false arrest? When I am doing nothing wrong. Because they have a uniform on? When that happens, yes, I can be a pain. These incidents happened in my own garden, outside my own house or on my actual road. The police came over to me like I had done something wrong, not me go over to them like they had done something wrong. So I was not actually stalking them! Thanks for commenting, you gave me a chuckle!

I've been filming the police for nearly 15yrs and it's only in the past two years they have gone from being nice and freindly to what you see in my vids and much worse footage I have for my full length film, coming soon to the net!
 
I am sure that you have guessed by now that we are mostly unimpressed. Don't know UK law that fully, but do know smart-butt when I see and hear it. Have fun.
 
They should have arrested you for crimes against fashion, for the Jamaican T-shirt with three Rastafarian dolphins
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More to the point, what's on your mind that you feel it necessary to bait the police?
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They shouldn't try to stop me from filming then. They should be more professional, as they used to be a couple of years ago! They wouldn't be looking like the plonkers they are now had they left me alone. I get the same from the polititions when I film them mate, it never used to be like this. They are public servants, what have they to hide?
 
I only watched the first one, due to a slow connection, but I think I get the idea.

First, the police put up a barrier, which is meant to keep people out. I'm quite sure they didn't do this randomly; there is likely a good reason you aren't sharing with us.

Second, you try to cross the barrier, knowing that the reason for a barrier is to keep people from crossing it.

Third, the policeman does his job by telling you to stay on the other side of the barrier.

Fourth, you accuse the policeman of being corrupt.

Maybe a course in logic at your local university might help. As well as a dictionary, for the meaning of "corrupt".

Some choice excerpts:

"I'm not infringing on any investigation." Obviously you are. At least one officer can't attend to his duties because he's busy keeping you out of the way.

"Where have I obstructed anyone?" When the police ask you to leave the area so they can perform an investigation, and you refuse to leave, that is obstruction.
 
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You know, pointing a digital camera at someone doesn't make you a "film-maker".

How do you expect to make a living out of these things?
 
Well, what are the laws there about filming? Or, what are the relevant laws about interfering with the police? Is this interference?

I haven't watched the whole thing.

Tend to get queasy with shaky cam.

Here in the U.S., I have to tell people what I'm doing when I go out with a parabolic mic--aside from some people liking it and some not, there are laws against wiretapping in my state--which means any kind of audio recording of conversations without permission.

In reality, people are all over the place--some are fine with it, others aren't, and laws vary from state to state. The State police here are often pretty harsh. You have to tell them, when recording anybody, that it's consensual. And I wouldn't try to record the police--that just seems like asking for it.

But just turn it around--would you like it if someone was filming you without your permission?

And, my point: You stop filming and move on if the cop asks you to, unless you have some darn good reason to film.

Ultimately, however, it's a matter of law, a matter of courtesy, and it's definitely about not messing with the police trying to do their jobs.

That being said, a summary of what happened would be helpful. It's pretty hard to watch.

I'm not sure what to think without that.

Presumably the police would be nicer to the local news...

Couldn't you have given them your name and used a little charm? Let them know you're on their side?

hmm.
 
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The first video is the only video where you can state he was being slightly out of line.
The rest were pretty much from his own dam house and garden.

Please someone explain to me what he did wrong filming in his dam garden?

I seen police approach him in almost every film for no reason what so ever except for the fact he was filming things.

You people are all insane if you call what he was doing harassment.

Its not illegal to do. Especially from his own property.
 
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I don't know about you guys, but I tend to stand up for myself & do my own thinking. I am not anti-police, but I am anti-corrupt police. As a film-maker I have come up against the police for filming in public, which is quite legal in the UK. Here's a few vids of the police coming over to me to try to stop me from filming them. It's not as though I filmed them beating some-one up or anything. So what is on thier minds?

The Police and The Film-maker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alpq9O5li9E
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Sealing off a potential crime scene is standard practice across the world as it allows you to carry out an investigation without having to worry about people getting in the way or interfering with any evidence.


The Police State is Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh4R0ZLpjNg
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The government does not have camera all over the place. The majority of CCTV camera are owned and operated by private enterprise. It's a free country and thus they are free to do this.

Right to film in a public place is an over simplification. First Freedom of panorama only applies to 3D objects on permanent display and second I doubt you have considered data protection act issues.

Antagolistic is not a word.

Police uniforms have nothing to do with the free masons
 
Hey nobby nob, for you mate!

I only watched the first one, due to a slow connection, but I think I get the idea.
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You have no idea, you can only assume!

First, the police put up a barrier, which is meant to keep people out. I'm quite sure they didn't do this randomly; there is likely a good reason you aren't sharing with us.
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Another assumption. It'll be in my upcoming film mate;)

Second, you try to cross the barrier, knowing that the reason for a barrier is to keep people from crossing it.
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Clearly you took no notice of the vid. I had to give a police woman my name and adress before they would let me cross the barrier. I always ask an officer if I can cross the barriers to get a better camera shot

Third, the policeman does his job by telling you to stay on the other side of the barrier.
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He came storming up to me litterally in my face. No-one should do that.

Fourth, you accuse the policeman of being corrupt.
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You love these assumtions eh:D Where did I accuse him of being corrupt? Those are your words mate, I never used those words in that vid so don't imply that I did. I suppose you're going to try to back it up now with some inane analogy when I said 'That was a bit of intimidation tactics that was.' Can't wait to hear it.

Maybe a course in logic at your local university might help. As well as a dictionary, for the meaning of "corrupt".
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I know what corrupt is alright mate. But we already debunked your assumtion that I accused the police of corruption. You need another angle on this one mate, try again:rolleyes:

Some choice excerpts:

"I'm not infringing on any investigation." Obviously you are. At least one officer can't attend to his duties because he's busy keeping you out of the way.
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You know I had permission to be there, yawn!

"Where have I obstructed anyone?" When the police ask you to leave the area so they can perform an investigation, and you refuse to leave, that is obstruction.
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Did I refuse to leave? Not at all. You can clearly see me walking backwards and not once did I say I refuse to leave!

Your username should be 'the assumer', it suits you!
 
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Besides these youtube amateurish videos, what films have you actually made?
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Looking for God - Music vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWng3CtPmIs

In Death Comes Salvation - Very tribal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPzDvc_R_UU

Needful Things - very short story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xw9ccVBIKE

Diplomatic Immunity - short docu/music vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FA4Xv6XS6Y

Check out my The Information Revolution vids where I hit the streets for peoples opinions on things. Here's part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARPzZlJ6y9E

There's loads more on my Youtube Channel:
http://www.youtube.com/darrenpollard1st

Right I'm off to bed. I'll be back to answer your posts tomorrow. I love a good debate, especially if there's valid points to be made. Thanks for posting:)
 
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I see no reason to put Mr Pollard down here.

Except for crossing the police tape, that isn't a right. Police need to investigate crimes in order to do their job.

But people should be in their rights to provide police oversight. It isn't appropriate for police to claim there is a law against something just because they don't personally like it (2nd video).

We have had a slew of police caught abusing people in this country since videos became so common place. And police have moved to installing more and more cameras to back up their side of events however, they catch their colleagues abusing people as well.

Positions of power can bring out the worst in people. Even though most cops are decent people, the few that aren't or lose control are going to be more restrained when they think they may be being filmed. If a witness doesn't want to be seen talking to police they probably wouldn't talk in the open anyway.

The only harm I can see is if innocent people look like criminals because they are filmed being questioned by police, but that isn't a logical assumption. Police interview witnesses as well.
 
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Do you expect to get better at baiting and being rude to those who try to serve, or are you looking to win the "rodney king" video lotto when you find a cop who is bad, and cash in. You are a nuisance. Did you get a release from the cops? Do you need a release? What are the laws for publishing other people on the internet without permission? Where is a good lawyer when you need one? You are funny, but are you known as the guy down the lane who films cops at night from his garden?; have you a nickname at the station?

No wonder Brad Pitt's guy decked the guy filming.

You remind me of someone trying to get the other person to go over the line. What if you meet a real bad cop? "Film found floating in the Thames with famous cop stalker; photos on page five." You may be famous one day.
 
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