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Ah, so you're admitting that the government has been attacking TIs with mind control waves for decades?
the new normal?, toward a "Psychocivilized" Society?, our "Brave New World"? ...
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Kid Eager
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Ah, so you're admitting that the government has been attacking TIs with mind control waves for decades?
Consistent with the premise of this thread, no, he's explicitly NOT admitting that which, of course, means it's true, or something.
Here is Katherine Horton (Ph.D. in Physics and a targeted individual herself) talking about aaronia's CEO's "jokes":
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// __ Targeted Individual Katherine Horton Ph.D. interview with Ella Free (youtube 6VDJOR90J8U&t=1h8m58s)
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At times I think "We the people" are just losing our wits on epidemic proportions. The problem is not that general, "technology-driven" stupidity is "the new normal", but that at some point "ubiquity" will win and all homes will be/must be "smart", money will be "electronic" (how "cool", right?), ... I had a brief argument with my landlord the other day, because he wanted to install special wireless routers in all apartments. I refused and suggested to him we should keep this argument in court.
// __ Are Smart Homes the Future of High-Tech Living? (youtube DuKvWEENrpc)
(1:38)
ABC News Reporter: what is the big deal about opening your garage with a "smart phone"?
lady: you can actually look at this app and say: hey!, . . . !
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What people apparently can't understand at this point anymore is that ABSOLUTELY anything software driven can be, IS hacked! Snowden pointed out that to the government we are all "tag animals" in addition to that they will be holding all of us individually from the nose and as long as "we the people" are being spoken to in 3 word sentences we will "understand"! Korea is one of those techno ***** society (yes, it is not all about young women shaking their rear ends) and they also have a huge problem with suicide. I am not saying there is a causal link, but as ego depletion experiments in animals have shown too much controlling, having no privacy whatsoever actually drives people "crazy"
Hannah Arendt told us about "the banality of evil", Hobbes paraphrased the Latin "homo homini lupus", ... I like how they succinctly put it in the Bronx/NYC/USA: "people is stupid, because people is stupid" (well, that must have been hard! 7 words in a sentence!?!)
A cartoon came to mind in which a radio talk host says: "this message will be adjusted for your attention span" and people watching the channel say: "what did he say?" ;-)
rlopez2
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// __ Targeted Individual Katherine Horton Ph.D. interview with Ella Free (youtube 6VDJOR90J8U&t=1h8m58s)
~
At times I think "We the people" are just losing our wits on epidemic proportions. The problem is not that general, "technology-driven" stupidity is "the new normal", but that at some point "ubiquity" will win and all homes will be/must be "smart", money will be "electronic" (how "cool", right?), ... I had a brief argument with my landlord the other day, because he wanted to install special wireless routers in all apartments. I refused and suggested to him we should keep this argument in court.
// __ Are Smart Homes the Future of High-Tech Living? (youtube DuKvWEENrpc)
(1:38)
ABC News Reporter: what is the big deal about opening your garage with a "smart phone"?
lady: you can actually look at this app and say: hey!, . . . !
~
What people apparently can't understand at this point anymore is that ABSOLUTELY anything software driven can be, IS hacked! Snowden pointed out that to the government we are all "tag animals" in addition to that they will be holding all of us individually from the nose and as long as "we the people" are being spoken to in 3 word sentences we will "understand"! Korea is one of those techno ***** society (yes, it is not all about young women shaking their rear ends) and they also have a huge problem with suicide. I am not saying there is a causal link, but as ego depletion experiments in animals have shown too much controlling, having no privacy whatsoever actually drives people "crazy"
Hannah Arendt told us about "the banality of evil", Hobbes paraphrased the Latin "homo homini lupus", ... I like how they succinctly put it in the Bronx/NYC/USA: "people is stupid, because people is stupid" (well, that must have been hard! 7 words in a sentence!?!)
A cartoon came to mind in which a radio talk host says: "this message will be adjusted for your attention span" and people watching the channel say: "what did he say?" ;-)
rlopez2
RE: Again, you are not quoting the youtube correctly: The CEO correctly describes it throughout as an RF signal generator, not a DEW.
OK, you are the smart, "skeptic" ones here, right? You just stated: "The CEO correctly describes it throughout as an RF signal generator, not a DEW"
1st) you questioned that DEW couldn't be that small and I showed to you they fit in a book pack
2nd) now, you just said something that to anyone who knows just the high school basics about the physics of EM waves would sound like: "the sun is not the source of EM radiation, but just light"
3rd) if you knew a bit of Physics, solutions to Maxwell equations based on their Randbedingungen, just by looking at the shape of that device you will notice that it is design to direct EM radiation
yet, you are right because you sure must have some emotions on which your thinking sits and/or because you talk in short sentences.
RE: "Compulsive laughing" is a gross mischaracterisation of the CEO giving a slight chuckle at his own joke.
1st) If they harass you and your family (even babies are being experimented with) with DEW you would certainly not see his act as "giving a slight chuckle at his own joke"
2nd) He is very manifestly and explicitly using word play in his jokes about something he is admitting "is illegal" (you should be smart enough to have noticed that).
RE: May I suggest your knowledge of electronics is limited? This is basically just run-of-the mill application stuff. The technical implementation seems absolutely leading-edge, but functionally, there is nothing in it that hasn't existed for decades.
Yes, there is, knowledgeable about electronics dude, especially is you consider all other pieces of technology puzzle. Storage and computing power is so vast, sensors are so powerful nowadays that they can literally (based on Bayesian networks and DAGs) make an AI Doppelgänger of every member of society in fact, just by using technology you are doing it automatically for them. So, "we the people" are not only paying to live in virtual jails, but are doing the work ourselves of keeping oneself caged (something not even such a powerful mind as Orwell’s envisioned) . They have been training the predicting capabilities of their devices to, very cheaply, put people under Zersetzung and go to the extremes of making them commit suicide thinking that the government is "reading their, implanting dreams in, hijacking, ... their minds" (myron may youtube PLWCXUI6QFyFGYQvyR9uCNthHG-zc9OYWh)
I can hear you, smart folks, say: "well, stating they can ‘read your mind’ is the very definition of mental illness". I assure you these folks are not mentally ill (I personally relate to many of them and I know mental illness very well (people who are mentally ill talk like this: "yesterday, when I spoke with God he actually told me . . ." and they mean it)) in fact, even thought the government in collusion with psychologists target people in ways that mimic mental illness as a way to make them discredit themselves, I am amazed that no decent psychologist or neurobiologist is able to notice things that don’t seem to be right. Schizophrenics hear what seems to be repetitive murmuring voices ("your are a dork", "your fagot/dyke", . . .), not complete and continuing stories about their lives and suggestions about calling a number to "a place where their spouses are having sex right now with someone else (they even tell you his/her name)" . . .
rlopez2
OK, you are the smart, "skeptic" ones here, right? You just stated: "The CEO correctly describes it throughout as an RF signal generator, not a DEW"
1st) you questioned that DEW couldn't be that small and I showed to you they fit in a book pack
2nd) now, you just said something that to anyone who knows just the high school basics about the physics of EM waves would sound like: "the sun is not the source of EM radiation, but just light"
3rd) if you knew a bit of Physics, solutions to Maxwell equations based on their Randbedingungen, just by looking at the shape of that device you will notice that it is design to direct EM radiation
yet, you are right because you sure must have some emotions on which your thinking sits and/or because you talk in short sentences.
RE: "Compulsive laughing" is a gross mischaracterisation of the CEO giving a slight chuckle at his own joke.
1st) If they harass you and your family (even babies are being experimented with) with DEW you would certainly not see his act as "giving a slight chuckle at his own joke"
2nd) He is very manifestly and explicitly using word play in his jokes about something he is admitting "is illegal" (you should be smart enough to have noticed that).
RE: May I suggest your knowledge of electronics is limited? This is basically just run-of-the mill application stuff. The technical implementation seems absolutely leading-edge, but functionally, there is nothing in it that hasn't existed for decades.
Yes, there is, knowledgeable about electronics dude, especially is you consider all other pieces of technology puzzle. Storage and computing power is so vast, sensors are so powerful nowadays that they can literally (based on Bayesian networks and DAGs) make an AI Doppelgänger of every member of society in fact, just by using technology you are doing it automatically for them. So, "we the people" are not only paying to live in virtual jails, but are doing the work ourselves of keeping oneself caged (something not even such a powerful mind as Orwell’s envisioned) . They have been training the predicting capabilities of their devices to, very cheaply, put people under Zersetzung and go to the extremes of making them commit suicide thinking that the government is "reading their, implanting dreams in, hijacking, ... their minds" (myron may youtube PLWCXUI6QFyFGYQvyR9uCNthHG-zc9OYWh)
I can hear you, smart folks, say: "well, stating they can ‘read your mind’ is the very definition of mental illness". I assure you these folks are not mentally ill (I personally relate to many of them and I know mental illness very well (people who are mentally ill talk like this: "yesterday, when I spoke with God he actually told me . . ." and they mean it)) in fact, even thought the government in collusion with psychologists target people in ways that mimic mental illness as a way to make them discredit themselves, I am amazed that no decent psychologist or neurobiologist is able to notice things that don’t seem to be right. Schizophrenics hear what seems to be repetitive murmuring voices ("your are a dork", "your fagot/dyke", . . .), not complete and continuing stories about their lives and suggestions about calling a number to "a place where their spouses are having sex right now with someone else (they even tell you his/her name)" . . .
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Or they talk like this: I'm the victim of a vast government and tech sector conspiracy. They are using energy weapons to invade my dreams and they mess with me by having people look at me funny and putting mites in my bed. Also, your microwave is part of a network with which They can create an AI clone of you, which they only use to kind of tease you, because they want to maintain plausible deniability.
Yes they do.
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Again, your knowledge is less than your ability to string words together.
First, you are unable to accurately quote what I said.
Secondly, your understanding of physics remains lacking.
Thirdly, I don't write verbose responses to your word salad and bad physics cocktail because there is no need to. Consider it your reward for being consistently wrong. So far you have linked to two youtube videos claiming things that are not in evidence. I will not be wasting my more of my time reading your third attempt.
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Seriously? Can you ease up on the casual racism please?Are you going for the record of maximum ignorance and stupidity packed into one short excerpt?
There are solid, well-known reasons for South Korea's (there are two Koreas, in case you hadn't noticed) suicide problem. German-built antennae do not feature among them.
Please list the animals you think have egos, and cite these experiments. Following that, perhaps you could demonstrate their use in South Korea?
I am still awaiting your explanation as to how you have managed to escapre from the virtual prison, and your guidance as to how I might accomplish this myself.
If you think that you are a "targeted individual" a great way to find out for sure is to go see a mental health professional. They have the inside track on how to best escape from this tracking program. Just print out this thread for a reference and bring it to any doctor.
RE: Also, your microwave is part of a network with which They can create an AI clone of you
Actually, things are that crazy that your metaphor is not that far off.
RE: Again, your knowledge is less than your ability to string words together.
Philosopher Kid Eager says so. At least I can prove I graduated from the TU Dresden as a theoretical Physicist. Where did you get your knowledge about Physics?
RE: If you think that you are a "targeted individual" a great way to find out for sure is to go see a mental health professional.
A "mental health professional" did you just say? Those kinds of folks even make fun of themselves. You should read about wikipedia Rosenhan_experiment and watch a documentary called "The age of fear - psychiatry's reign of terror", but of course you will not do that because "you are right", which to you it means you think and talk in short sentences
Actually, things are that crazy that your metaphor is not that far off.
RE: Again, your knowledge is less than your ability to string words together.
Philosopher Kid Eager says so. At least I can prove I graduated from the TU Dresden as a theoretical Physicist. Where did you get your knowledge about Physics?
RE: If you think that you are a "targeted individual" a great way to find out for sure is to go see a mental health professional.
A "mental health professional" did you just say? Those kinds of folks even make fun of themselves. You should read about wikipedia Rosenhan_experiment and watch a documentary called "The age of fear - psychiatry's reign of terror", but of course you will not do that because "you are right", which to you it means you think and talk in short sentences
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What? I'm in jail - who can I complain to about to the bad food and lack of visitors then?
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Why?
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Wait, lack of visitors? You're supposed to be visited by Jehovah's Witness and/or Mormons at least twice weekly!
Dang it! I bet Carl down in scheduling forgot to submit the work order again!
RE: Again, your knowledge is less than your ability to string words together.
Also, the physical aspects of technical gadgets you can actually test, their capabilities can be proven, which you should be able to see from the higher grounds from which you speak, instead of going into silly, self-righteous fits.
What I have said here is mental, like any kind of, illness is systemic and shows some sort of symptomatic context to it. TI have been saying for a long time they were "hearing voices that no one else was able to notice" (reminding them that they had forgotten to take their keys (so, TIs think they are "reading their minds") or letting them know that their car was not where they had actually parked it, . . .) as it turns out they had such technologies for a long time. TIs report kind of annoying tickling in specific limbs (which they can simply test is not neurobiological by putting themselves or the specific limb in a Faraday cage), well, it turns out that sensors are so powerful nowadays that they can literally keep track of your every move/body positions, like a textual representation of your actions as you go about your daily life and as the "FBI operating manual" (like the "operative psychology" -openly- studied at East German universities and used by the stasi) which landed on theIntercept journos (theintercept 20170131 secret-docs-reveal-president-trump-has-inherited-an-fbi-with-vast-hidden-powers/?comments=1) as reported by Glenn Greenwald:
"... [such devices] peer through the walls of private homes; and more. The FBI offered various justifications of these tactics to our reporters. But the documents and our reporting on them ultimately reveal a bureaucracy in dire need of greater transparency and accountability"
Unfortunately, Greenwald stopped right there and didn't explain what "and more" coda
Now ask that smart a** about Physics if that should obviously work both ways. I think it must.
rlopez2
Also, the physical aspects of technical gadgets you can actually test, their capabilities can be proven, which you should be able to see from the higher grounds from which you speak, instead of going into silly, self-righteous fits.
What I have said here is mental, like any kind of, illness is systemic and shows some sort of symptomatic context to it. TI have been saying for a long time they were "hearing voices that no one else was able to notice" (reminding them that they had forgotten to take their keys (so, TIs think they are "reading their minds") or letting them know that their car was not where they had actually parked it, . . .) as it turns out they had such technologies for a long time. TIs report kind of annoying tickling in specific limbs (which they can simply test is not neurobiological by putting themselves or the specific limb in a Faraday cage), well, it turns out that sensors are so powerful nowadays that they can literally keep track of your every move/body positions, like a textual representation of your actions as you go about your daily life and as the "FBI operating manual" (like the "operative psychology" -openly- studied at East German universities and used by the stasi) which landed on theIntercept journos (theintercept 20170131 secret-docs-reveal-president-trump-has-inherited-an-fbi-with-vast-hidden-powers/?comments=1) as reported by Glenn Greenwald:
"... [such devices] peer through the walls of private homes; and more. The FBI offered various justifications of these tactics to our reporters. But the documents and our reporting on them ultimately reveal a bureaucracy in dire need of greater transparency and accountability"
Unfortunately, Greenwald stopped right there and didn't explain what "and more" coda
Now ask that smart a** about Physics if that should obviously work both ways. I think it must.
rlopez2
RE: I am still awaiting your explanation as to how you have managed to escapre from the virtual prison, and your guidance as to how I might accomplish this myself.
sarcasm, callous jokes aside and, mainly, for people running into this thread in the future
1st) I don't know what is it you found "racist" about my comments. I actually like Asian women. When I was a kid I had a culturally-mixed "Chinese" girlfriend (who still keeps in contact with her family roots in China) and we are still best friends. Also, are you absolutely sure there are two Koreas? and if you know so much about those many Koreas, why don't you tell us why do they have such a huge problem with suicide (and please, by "why" I don't mean I want to hear a rationalization, but probably a reason if there is such as ugly as it may be)
2nd) You should learn more about Zersetzung (which ultimate goal is "ego depletion") they have done such experiments with all kinds of social animals from monkeys to ravens and ants and they all react in the same way when their self, awareness, mindful orientation is abused to such extrems.
You sleep deprive "Jimmy the monkey" (all social animals have a "theory of mind": youtube YbAhPqsLHmo Brainiac - Cheating Monkey), so they can't just be hungry. They can't help but get angry, emotional about "injustice", . . . If they are constantly bothered (it is most important doing in constantly for reasons explained bellow), physically assaulted, gamed unfairly, you give food to all other monkeys but Jimmy while he is watching, when you give him food it is tainted, . . . at some point Jimmy chooses either to commit suicide by inanition (Jimmy just sits in a corner of the cage totally unresponsive to even food) or Jimmy becomes extremely violent towards other monkeys and himself (as myron may, that Santiago guy at FLL, the military guy who took a car and rammed it against people in order to have the NYPD kill him, . . . ). Jimmy does that to assert his own sense of self, he wholeheartedly believes. The "interesting" thing about such crassly abusive "experiments" is that even if they stop abusing those animals (and we human beings are just pretentious, even "skeptical" monkeys), they can't revert to a normal state of mind. This is the basics of Zersetzung. Destroying your inner self instead of physically/biologically destroying you (they turn you into some sort of wasted zombie).
How did I escape from the TI virtual jail? Actually, there is no "escape" as such (that clearly shows you are not a TI, you are just using me as your circus monkey (you think)), but there is something I can tell you, you go a long way just by not being an ******* and not letting that **** roll over you as well as basic things you should do like keeping your "surface" to a minimum so they have less of a handle on you. I don't even own a cell phone, I don't watch TV, don't use computers with cams, sleep and partially work in a Faraday cage (isn't it cool you can so easily create an EM blind spot to the Universe!?!), read off of and write my own notes on paper, browse the Internet with javascript and images disabled, shutdown my access to the Internet when I don't needed, never connect my main work computer to the Internet, . . . ). Also, the Ctrl-Z key doesn't seem to work when it comes to TIs, so, don't give them the chance to get you (don't think that because "everybody does it" you will get away with it). At the end of the day those things are healthy and morally enchanting things to do anyway.
When you read more about Zersetzung (which has become trendy these days), you will learn that there are two types of stress:
1) the one that relates to purposeful engagements which you can functionally handle, making your endocrine system release the good kinds of hormones, and
2) the foreign, not understood, unexpected, untimely, impose, ... kind they relentlessly use in Zersetzung to drive people crazy not only psychologically but it also has somatic/biological effects which may be irreversible, firing the very wrong hormones in your body such as the very unhealthy cortisol . . .
So you would help yourself by putting to work "good hormones" by being more active in concrete terms against their ********. There are also the spiritual aspects relating to it, as Eleanor ROosevelt once said: "People can bother you only if you allow them to do so" and here is this one liner (edited/cannibalized by me a bit):
"the greatest of all gifts and graces God has granted us with is the capacity of overcoming oneself" --Saint Francis(' little flowers)
and sorry even though I tried my best at reducing this one liner to its minimal sentence, I couldn't reduce to a three word one, but if you somehow intuitively notice there is more than you can handle in your plate at a time in that statement, it is because that is the case, indeed. No it doesn't relate to having money/stuff, being "happy", . . . or not. I would say a healthy and easy way of reducing the effects of Zersetzung, defend yourself against it, is to take §2 á la Roosevelt and Saint Francis rechannelling it against those very dark forces. "Knowing your enemy" doesn't hurt either, I would recommend: "The Rape Of The Mind: The Psychology Of Thought Control, Menticide And Brainwashing", by Joost Meerloo: 320 pages, ISBN-10: 1614277877; concludes by saying: "The modern techniques of brainwashing and menticide—those perversions of psychology—can bring almost any man into submission and surrender".
In my case, being anarchic runs in my family (I can't even begin to realize how can people put up with politicians). I have lived like that since I was a little boy. You kind of grow a thicker skin or as Hegel put it in his explanation of the conscious dynamic between slaves and slave holders, it brings your consciousness to a higher level (which is metabolically expensive to your brain/taxing to your mind, but I would rather not live an unquestioned life), at some point you kind of habituate that kind of crap to some extent, as it happens to many TIs (Ella Free's youtube channel).
I would admit, however, that this thing in the U.S. about harassing, tormenting, torturing people just for the fun of it even driving blind people to commit suicide as part of their playful experiments (Against use of Psychotronic Weapons. Testimonies of victims before the Presidential Commission, USA: youtube iyMSvQqeWOo) (Psychtronics Weaponry Victims Files: youtube playlist PLv7whYPHSlwRkENZWEu936tY9Wc3cZw22) is a totally new concept to me (then I learned all "freedom loving", Western countries do that, it is "the new normal"). These is one especially sick aspect about gringos: they don't do it in the open as they do in other police states, "because in the U.S. there are laws protecting human rights" ... Now, people with some wits in their heads may find that preposterous. One day while speaking to some "unAmerican", European lady, she told/asked me: "now that is really stupid, but that is not even the main aspect of it: could that possibly work?", the answer to her question you clearly see in this thread: look at you, your own reactions ...
Some other peculiar things I also notice is that gringos are so carefully kept in denial about their own **** by their "freedom of the press" media that they ("the 'free' and 'the' 'brave' ...") wholeheartedly believe every one else to be brainwashed but them: "only 'unAmerican' (as they self-ridiculingly use that demonym turned adjective), stupid people would spy on their own", but then when they learned that the spying of their own government on them was way above and beyond the wildest wet dreams of the stasi and the KGB they just went into a collective: "Oh, well! ..." mode and rationalized it all about being about "metadata" (and since "metadata" is too long a word ("what is that? some new dance?"), you definitely need more than three-word sentences to understand such concepts, it was totally incomprehensible to the commoners)). Their own media would not talk about Snowden's revelations for what it meant. Heck! They wouldn't even mention his name (Government Surveillance: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) youtube XEVlyP4_11M). Yet, here is the most interesting aspect of it: their "freedom of the press" media stopped at once constantly talking about the Chinese, Russians, Cubans, ... spying of their own (which those people well know about anyway, since, among other things, their governments do it in the open). The next time I heard of a mainstream media outlet talking about the Chinese again was years later on the Wall Street Journal: (20171212: "China's chilling 'social credit' blacklist", by Maya Wang: wsj.com articles chinas-chilling-social-credit-blacklist-1513036054).
All East German students knew well that they had at least two stasi snitches in their classes (they even joked about it). Snitching and perpetrating in U.S. Universities nowadays, as I have myself noticed, is above and beyond anything I saw in East Germany, but gringos (the "freedom loving good Christians" they are) don't even have the language to talk about, let alone "comprehend" such matters. One of the "creative", new ways in which they do things nowadays in police state USA is by posting your private life to the world at large to know about you (canarymission.org and BTW "promoting hatred" to them means questioning the occupation). People wonder how is it that the Israeli government knows about their private life . . .
When Spielberg made the movie about Snowden (I wonder what was the point of such movie, since the reality of it all was way more interesting, riveting; but probably he was making it easier, "more visual", ...), he raised an important point as an open question: "how come in some 20,000+ people working at the NSA only one (actually a few) saw evil to its face?". Those NSA folks are, -must be- so out of touch with basic reality that, as reported from internal memos at the NSA, they complain about snitching at work as being "unprofessional", when the Chinese hacked their rear ends going back to the 1970's when they started to use computers (poetic justice of the greatest kind, indeed!) they complained about the possibility of foreign governments using that data to blackmail U.S. officials and used U.S. tax payers monies to pay themselves insurance, they even have a "Socrates of the NSA"!!!. Now, do they even have the Saint Francis of the CIA torture chambers? child molesters for peace? Mother Theresa as the patron saint of corruption? Now, it is not that hard to understand that most of those folks have no clue about who Socrates was, but at least they should be aware of what they do, who, what they are.
I wonder what those patriots fighting off occupation by the British and "the founding fathers" who thought a well written constitution would save them from such things, would think about the U.S. nowadays, how would ancient Athenians react to the idea of using "democracy" to institutionalize corruption, of secret laws which interpretations are secret, . . . when Athenians invented the kinds of social technologies relating to "democracy" as a way to ensure transparency and direct participation of all members of society even "illegal" ones (even people from other city states with whom they even were at constant wars), what would those Jewish people in the Warsaw gettho think of the Israeli government playing Nazis nowadays with Palestine (actually they had their own internal "Jewish", whom they found more terrifying that Nazis themselves), what would Italian merchants, who were able to wedge themselves as a social class in a society already dominated by the clerics and aristocrats by championing openness. They would share their double entry books with other merchants they would never meet living in places they would never visit. No, they didn't have cell phones, there was not Internet in those times, it seems to have been about something else altogether . . .
At least to some extent, engineering technologies have been helpful to societal good before in history. It doesn't seem to be the case in these times.
rlopez2
sarcasm, callous jokes aside and, mainly, for people running into this thread in the future
1st) I don't know what is it you found "racist" about my comments. I actually like Asian women. When I was a kid I had a culturally-mixed "Chinese" girlfriend (who still keeps in contact with her family roots in China) and we are still best friends. Also, are you absolutely sure there are two Koreas? and if you know so much about those many Koreas, why don't you tell us why do they have such a huge problem with suicide (and please, by "why" I don't mean I want to hear a rationalization, but probably a reason if there is such as ugly as it may be)
2nd) You should learn more about Zersetzung (which ultimate goal is "ego depletion") they have done such experiments with all kinds of social animals from monkeys to ravens and ants and they all react in the same way when their self, awareness, mindful orientation is abused to such extrems.
You sleep deprive "Jimmy the monkey" (all social animals have a "theory of mind": youtube YbAhPqsLHmo Brainiac - Cheating Monkey), so they can't just be hungry. They can't help but get angry, emotional about "injustice", . . . If they are constantly bothered (it is most important doing in constantly for reasons explained bellow), physically assaulted, gamed unfairly, you give food to all other monkeys but Jimmy while he is watching, when you give him food it is tainted, . . . at some point Jimmy chooses either to commit suicide by inanition (Jimmy just sits in a corner of the cage totally unresponsive to even food) or Jimmy becomes extremely violent towards other monkeys and himself (as myron may, that Santiago guy at FLL, the military guy who took a car and rammed it against people in order to have the NYPD kill him, . . . ). Jimmy does that to assert his own sense of self, he wholeheartedly believes. The "interesting" thing about such crassly abusive "experiments" is that even if they stop abusing those animals (and we human beings are just pretentious, even "skeptical" monkeys), they can't revert to a normal state of mind. This is the basics of Zersetzung. Destroying your inner self instead of physically/biologically destroying you (they turn you into some sort of wasted zombie).
How did I escape from the TI virtual jail? Actually, there is no "escape" as such (that clearly shows you are not a TI, you are just using me as your circus monkey (you think)), but there is something I can tell you, you go a long way just by not being an ******* and not letting that **** roll over you as well as basic things you should do like keeping your "surface" to a minimum so they have less of a handle on you. I don't even own a cell phone, I don't watch TV, don't use computers with cams, sleep and partially work in a Faraday cage (isn't it cool you can so easily create an EM blind spot to the Universe!?!), read off of and write my own notes on paper, browse the Internet with javascript and images disabled, shutdown my access to the Internet when I don't needed, never connect my main work computer to the Internet, . . . ). Also, the Ctrl-Z key doesn't seem to work when it comes to TIs, so, don't give them the chance to get you (don't think that because "everybody does it" you will get away with it). At the end of the day those things are healthy and morally enchanting things to do anyway.
When you read more about Zersetzung (which has become trendy these days), you will learn that there are two types of stress:
1) the one that relates to purposeful engagements which you can functionally handle, making your endocrine system release the good kinds of hormones, and
2) the foreign, not understood, unexpected, untimely, impose, ... kind they relentlessly use in Zersetzung to drive people crazy not only psychologically but it also has somatic/biological effects which may be irreversible, firing the very wrong hormones in your body such as the very unhealthy cortisol . . .
So you would help yourself by putting to work "good hormones" by being more active in concrete terms against their ********. There are also the spiritual aspects relating to it, as Eleanor ROosevelt once said: "People can bother you only if you allow them to do so" and here is this one liner (edited/cannibalized by me a bit):
"the greatest of all gifts and graces God has granted us with is the capacity of overcoming oneself" --Saint Francis(' little flowers)
and sorry even though I tried my best at reducing this one liner to its minimal sentence, I couldn't reduce to a three word one, but if you somehow intuitively notice there is more than you can handle in your plate at a time in that statement, it is because that is the case, indeed. No it doesn't relate to having money/stuff, being "happy", . . . or not. I would say a healthy and easy way of reducing the effects of Zersetzung, defend yourself against it, is to take §2 á la Roosevelt and Saint Francis rechannelling it against those very dark forces. "Knowing your enemy" doesn't hurt either, I would recommend: "The Rape Of The Mind: The Psychology Of Thought Control, Menticide And Brainwashing", by Joost Meerloo: 320 pages, ISBN-10: 1614277877; concludes by saying: "The modern techniques of brainwashing and menticide—those perversions of psychology—can bring almost any man into submission and surrender".
In my case, being anarchic runs in my family (I can't even begin to realize how can people put up with politicians). I have lived like that since I was a little boy. You kind of grow a thicker skin or as Hegel put it in his explanation of the conscious dynamic between slaves and slave holders, it brings your consciousness to a higher level (which is metabolically expensive to your brain/taxing to your mind, but I would rather not live an unquestioned life), at some point you kind of habituate that kind of crap to some extent, as it happens to many TIs (Ella Free's youtube channel).
I would admit, however, that this thing in the U.S. about harassing, tormenting, torturing people just for the fun of it even driving blind people to commit suicide as part of their playful experiments (Against use of Psychotronic Weapons. Testimonies of victims before the Presidential Commission, USA: youtube iyMSvQqeWOo) (Psychtronics Weaponry Victims Files: youtube playlist PLv7whYPHSlwRkENZWEu936tY9Wc3cZw22) is a totally new concept to me (then I learned all "freedom loving", Western countries do that, it is "the new normal"). These is one especially sick aspect about gringos: they don't do it in the open as they do in other police states, "because in the U.S. there are laws protecting human rights" ... Now, people with some wits in their heads may find that preposterous. One day while speaking to some "unAmerican", European lady, she told/asked me: "now that is really stupid, but that is not even the main aspect of it: could that possibly work?", the answer to her question you clearly see in this thread: look at you, your own reactions ...
Some other peculiar things I also notice is that gringos are so carefully kept in denial about their own **** by their "freedom of the press" media that they ("the 'free' and 'the' 'brave' ...") wholeheartedly believe every one else to be brainwashed but them: "only 'unAmerican' (as they self-ridiculingly use that demonym turned adjective), stupid people would spy on their own", but then when they learned that the spying of their own government on them was way above and beyond the wildest wet dreams of the stasi and the KGB they just went into a collective: "Oh, well! ..." mode and rationalized it all about being about "metadata" (and since "metadata" is too long a word ("what is that? some new dance?"), you definitely need more than three-word sentences to understand such concepts, it was totally incomprehensible to the commoners)). Their own media would not talk about Snowden's revelations for what it meant. Heck! They wouldn't even mention his name (Government Surveillance: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) youtube XEVlyP4_11M). Yet, here is the most interesting aspect of it: their "freedom of the press" media stopped at once constantly talking about the Chinese, Russians, Cubans, ... spying of their own (which those people well know about anyway, since, among other things, their governments do it in the open). The next time I heard of a mainstream media outlet talking about the Chinese again was years later on the Wall Street Journal: (20171212: "China's chilling 'social credit' blacklist", by Maya Wang: wsj.com articles chinas-chilling-social-credit-blacklist-1513036054).
All East German students knew well that they had at least two stasi snitches in their classes (they even joked about it). Snitching and perpetrating in U.S. Universities nowadays, as I have myself noticed, is above and beyond anything I saw in East Germany, but gringos (the "freedom loving good Christians" they are) don't even have the language to talk about, let alone "comprehend" such matters. One of the "creative", new ways in which they do things nowadays in police state USA is by posting your private life to the world at large to know about you (canarymission.org and BTW "promoting hatred" to them means questioning the occupation). People wonder how is it that the Israeli government knows about their private life . . .
When Spielberg made the movie about Snowden (I wonder what was the point of such movie, since the reality of it all was way more interesting, riveting; but probably he was making it easier, "more visual", ...), he raised an important point as an open question: "how come in some 20,000+ people working at the NSA only one (actually a few) saw evil to its face?". Those NSA folks are, -must be- so out of touch with basic reality that, as reported from internal memos at the NSA, they complain about snitching at work as being "unprofessional", when the Chinese hacked their rear ends going back to the 1970's when they started to use computers (poetic justice of the greatest kind, indeed!) they complained about the possibility of foreign governments using that data to blackmail U.S. officials and used U.S. tax payers monies to pay themselves insurance, they even have a "Socrates of the NSA"!!!. Now, do they even have the Saint Francis of the CIA torture chambers? child molesters for peace? Mother Theresa as the patron saint of corruption? Now, it is not that hard to understand that most of those folks have no clue about who Socrates was, but at least they should be aware of what they do, who, what they are.
I wonder what those patriots fighting off occupation by the British and "the founding fathers" who thought a well written constitution would save them from such things, would think about the U.S. nowadays, how would ancient Athenians react to the idea of using "democracy" to institutionalize corruption, of secret laws which interpretations are secret, . . . when Athenians invented the kinds of social technologies relating to "democracy" as a way to ensure transparency and direct participation of all members of society even "illegal" ones (even people from other city states with whom they even were at constant wars), what would those Jewish people in the Warsaw gettho think of the Israeli government playing Nazis nowadays with Palestine (actually they had their own internal "Jewish", whom they found more terrifying that Nazis themselves), what would Italian merchants, who were able to wedge themselves as a social class in a society already dominated by the clerics and aristocrats by championing openness. They would share their double entry books with other merchants they would never meet living in places they would never visit. No, they didn't have cell phones, there was not Internet in those times, it seems to have been about something else altogether . . .
At least to some extent, engineering technologies have been helpful to societal good before in history. It doesn't seem to be the case in these times.
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Thermal
August Member
I've just realized how well my schooling prepared me for effective communication.
timhau
NWO Litter Technician
You obviously didn't study physics at Dresden Tech.
Cosmic Yak
Philosopher
Writing off an entire country, with a rich culture and long history, as being just about arse-shaking strumpets, is completely racist. Following that up with the old "some of my best friends are (insert ethnicity of choice) just makes it worse. If you genuinely were are colour/race-blind as you claim, you would not have stereotyped an entire nation/ race.
Yes. I've been to both. Good Lord.
It's really quite simple. South Korea is a very high-pressure society. This leads to high suicide rates.
Fascinating. Please demonstrate the fact that ants have egos and self-awareness, preferably without recourse to YouTube videos. Actual academic research, if you don't mind.
Like you, you mean?
I really think you should step back from this, take a deep breath, and have a good hard look at the belief system you have constructed here. If everything was a bad as you imagine (and I use that word for good reason), then none of us would be here having this conversation. You have locked yourself into a dark and scary reality tunnel, and you really don't have to: there is no need to live like this.