Psychic Kids on A&E

It's an exact match

Sarah Dolan, the girl that Chip Coffey takes for Fred's sister Sarah, was related to Catherine Dolan from Ireland, she became a Stuart/Stewart after marrying Agustus, an American by birth.

Once again, good fact work.
 
Chip probably already knows, it wasn't awfully hard to find.

I wonder if anybody else has bothered to look?

Anyway no doubt they'd find some other Freddy Stewart to match it to - there must be dozens.
 
Sarah's relationship is transcribed as 'SisterL' on familysearch.
Chip obviously is not much of a genealogist :)
 
In researching the name

Jonquill said:
Thanks roseglass, I suppose you could argue that there was no death certificate if the mother hid the body and the death was never reported. It would be cool to find him alive and kicking in 1900 though.
I'm not familiar with what records are available in the US but I am looking on the index on Ancestry.com and so far haven't found any of the family after 1880.
I don't think the spelling is all that important, it's just as likely that his name was actually Frederick.
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Your right, in researching the name, be it Fredrick, Fred or Freddie was not that important. The fact that you came at it from that angle was a big plus to getting the right record.

I'll explain what I meant to be clear; the girl was claiming that it was important that the last name was spelled Stuart, not Stewart. All through out the show, that point was driven home to the viewer, again and again, by Chip Coffey and the research investigator Lisa - Stuart not Stewart. If that was an important claim that the young girl delineated to the psychics about the last name , then why not treat the name Freddy (as she originally posted) and not Freddie (as found in the first record). Why? Because the little girl was probably playing it up - no one bothered to think about how irrational all this was.

And since that last record was found, its obvious that she has been doing exactly that - playing.

And I was wrong, the important record was not [edit - only the death certificate] that needed to be found - the record you posted was.

Cheers :)
 
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It looks like the Stewarts (or Stuarts) were illiterate, the mother's name Catharine was spelled a variety of different ways too. I wonder if when the enumerator came around she said his name was Fred E Stewart and he misheard it as Freddie. If young Freddie had been haunting anybody spelling out his name would have been the least of his concerns.
 
That's a plausible reason and probably the right one. If you found the episode and paused the screen, you can see the 1880 record Coffey presented had the mother as Catherine and the father as Agustus. Also, the census taker, like you said, probably wrote down the name as he heard it - Catherine Dolan was also Irish, which meant she probably had an Irish accent - so Fred E., Freddy or Freddie would sound similar in an Irish brogue.

I wonder if Coffey actually does know - if you found that record on your own, then one could doubt that he has. I doubt even A&E knows. Someone, especially the mom needs to know they, and her little girl, are stepping in some major woo woo.

The mom and dad, atleast, need to know this other record exists, or her little girl and Chip Coffey are just going to keep at it.
 
lol

If young Freddie had been haunting anybody spelling out his name would have been the least of his concerns.
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Too true,

"I'm sorry, would that be Mr. or Mister Boo?"

"Oh, you know who, just Boo."

"Is that Boo with one 'O' or two?"

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I must admit, I didn't even look for it on youtube to watch - it sounded too painfully awful.

I don't know how you'd tell them, and if you told them discretely I'm sure the info would never see the light of day.

I am asking over at the genealogy section of Yahoo Answers to see if anyone can help me trace Freddie furthur, maybe we can find someone who will claim him as their grandad:)
 
Catherine got around too

If you do an 1880's census record search and then a 1900's record search for the last name Stuart, and the mother's name Catherine and the state set as Illinois - it comes up with nearly 6 pages of children who have Catherine Stuart at a mom.

Maybe there's a Guinness World Record for ghost babies going on down there in the 'heart' lands.
 
Chip Coffey is such a joke, and his new show psychic kids is also a joke. It hasn't been mentioned in this thread, maybe elsewhere on the forum, but Chip Coffey is a failed actor, turned psychic. He's starred in several uncredited roles in film and t.v. I guess now he can combine both of his passions together. Too bad he's not very good at acting or displaying psychic abilities.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1368465/?c=1
 
It would be a joke if people didn't actually think these sort of programs are the gospel truth. I just posted on Yahoo Answers Paranormal that Freddie wasn't really murdered and look at the response I got "Maybe it was a different Freddie Stuart. Or if a spirit was giving this information to her...maybe they lied. You can't always trust spirits"

(sigh)
 
A&E has a forum for the Psychic Kids and some folks mentioning JREF already posted the MDC. Some of the replies there are pretty silly, but seems like there's alot of talk about the show from the other angle too. Wonder if Chip and Faith will take up the challenge? Atleast now, Chip knows about it.

Amazing that the first show got busted right here by just doing some internet research - go figure.
 
The thing is that skeptics either wouldn't watch the show in the first place or wouldn't believe any part of it regardless of what was on the census, the die hard Believers will continue to believe even if the evidence against it is jumping up and biting them on the bum, and the majority would watch it for entertainment and hardly give it another thought - so that anything you find out isn't likely to change many opinions.
 
Jonquill said:
The thing is that skeptics either wouldn't watch the show in the first place or wouldn't believe any part of it regardless of what was on the census, the die hard Believers will continue to believe even if the evidence against it is jumping up and biting them on the bum, and the majority would watch it for entertainment and hardly give it another thought - so that anything you find out isn't likely to change many opinions.
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Good points, however, you got the information out there and that's what counts.
 
Jonquill said:
It would be a joke if people didn't actually think these sort of programs are the gospel truth...
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Speaking of jokes, the E! show The Soup showed a clip from Psychic Children a couple weeks ago. They were making fun of the fact that the kids seemed to be obviously making things up and the host was trying to "compete" psychically with them. I'm not explaining that well, but imagine someone making unverified claims and someone else trying to out-psychic them with clams of their own.

It was something like this...

Psychic kid: I'm sensing a young girl.

Host: Yes, I sense her too. She has blonde hair.

Psychic kid: It's more reddish than blonde. And I sense she is angry.

Host: Actually, she is more upset than angry. I'm really sensing her now.
 
Jonquill said:
The thing is that skeptics either wouldn't watch the show in the first place or wouldn't believe any part of it regardless of what was on the census, the die hard Believers will continue to believe even if the evidence against it is jumping up and biting them on the bum, and the majority would watch it for entertainment and hardly give it another thought - so that anything you find out isn't likely to change many opinions.
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First of all - roseglass and Jonquill: terrific work! (and welcome to the forum!)

Second: don't sell yourself short. This is the kind of research that Robert Lancaster does on his StopSylviaBrowne website. You may not be able to change the mind of all believers, but, as his most recent posts on SSB show, it is possible to change the mind of some believers.

Please, keep up the good work.
 
I believe this is a form of child abuse and that the show should be taken off the air. It is obvious that the children are being exploited. I was surprised when I saw the advertisement. Boycotting the sponsors will be a good way to get the show taken off.
 
Thanks juryjone. It would be nice to be able to change some people's minds but Believers have amazing mental agility when it comes to getting the 'facts' to fit what they want to be true.

The two names aren't exactly the same, so Believers won't recognise them as being the same person - although genealogists would.
 
I asked what people thought about this show on the Paranormal bit of Yahoo Answers - surprisingly even some people who thought the kids had a genuine psychic gift thought the show was exploiting them.
Of course others thought it was great how the kids were being 'helped'.
 
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