Psychic Kids on A&E

Wow

Thanks for the support and encouragement. Jonquill pointed out the major problem is getting people to realize, or pay attention, the facts surrounding the census records.

I'd suggest watching the shows, especially if you are a psychologist, there are currently three;

Ghost of Freddie - this was the one where it was shown the main ghost in the show didn't die in childhood.

Demon House - two very emotional young girls are taken by Chip into a house that he says he feels a demonic presence.

Fear Management - Probably the hardest to watch because one of the young men involved didn't want to be there, but it's obvious he was forced into doing the show by his parents. Another kid was also enticed into going.
 
I've only seen a few clips of this show, but every time I do I can't help but think 'Munchausen by Proxy'. Probably not technically applicable, but it feels so right.
 
I didn't get a chance to check out the show tonight as planned. Hope to catch it again in a few days.
 
This is cross-posted from the DragonCon thread...

I am not believing this. I've met Chip Coffey! The theater group I'm a part of did a production of My Fair Lady a few years ago (which, due to work, I was not a part of) and he played Colonel Pickering! (Very stiffly, as I recall.)

You can believe it or not, but just take a look here.
 
A&E has a forum for the Psychic Kids and some folks mentioning JREF already posted the MDC.

Hi all. I've been posting over at the A&E forum since Paranormal State first aired in December '07. I've felt like posting to a skeptic board would be like preaching to the choir. It gets quite frustrating over there at times and deletions of posts for no apparent reason run rampant. At one point there was a conspiracy from the PRS forum to come over and run us "haters" off but it didn't go so well for them. LOL!

Psychic Kids sinks even lower than PS and personally, I didn't think that was possible. Both PS and PK are just such blatant BS, I simply can't see how even 'believers' buy into this crap. It seems that about a half dozen posters at A&E have a vested interest in these shows as, in their eyes, they can do no wrong. They don't question a single thing and defend PK/PS like it was their very own child.

Recently I've been in email contact with Rita Wiseman (Rita is Community Producer A&E Television Networks at A&E) about the deletions and BTW every epi (that I recall) of Paranormal State was successfully challenged there and were promptly deleted. The following is the first reply that I received from her on June 24 (BTW I'm JenaFL there): "Hi Jena,
Thanks for bringing this matter to my attention. I've been working to correct this situation and am hoping to see some improvement this week. I think the vehement feelings of the members who both support the show and who don't support it has caused a lot of misundertanding [sic]. Things should run more smoothly now and fewer posts will be removed.

Regards,
Rita

It seemed to get better for a little while but this past weekend brought many arbitrary deletions. I had emailed her with a few questions last week that she didn't respond to so I emailed again three days ago.

I said: "Hi Rita, I emailed you last week and don't know if you received it as I didn't receive a response. The deletions of the Psychic Kids board this weekend must number in the hundreds and most were not TOS violations. I even had an entire thread deleted which was nothing more that a C&P from A&E's "Participation" section along with a question to forum members asking what they thought about it. Again, the mods will not talk to us and it's very frustrating. If it's truly a discussion board then please let us discuss. If it's a fan board then why not label it as such? Can we please have contact with the mods so we at least know what is going on??? Below is a copy of the email I sent you last week.
Thank you for your personal attention and a prompt response,
JenaFL"

And this was her response: "Hi Jena,
Lots of folks were out last week or had short weeks at work. I'm still playing catch up on a lot of things but have the monitoring Supervisors checking into this now.

And the mods will remain out of contact. They cannot speak for the company and it just isnt [sic] cost effective for them to participate. The boards are there for anyone to discuss the pros and cons of the show.Those posting have very strong feelings about the show and so the discussions there are volitile [sic]. Its a fine line to walk between stating an opinion about the show and personal attacks on other posters or the participants on the show. Members tend to forget to Debate the topic and not each other. We try to err on the side of removing any kind of attack. We may be overzealous in that reguard [sic] and that's what I'm having the supervisors review.
Thanks for the input.
Rita Wiseman"

And my reply after quote: >>'Its a fine line to walk between stating an opinion about the show and personal attacks on other posters or the participants on the show. Members tend to forget to Debate the topic and not each other.'<<

"This is true. The problem is *selective* deletes. It seems the scales *largely* tip to the pro show members. It looks as if the mods delete innocuous posts of dissenters to simply discourage them from voicing their opinion. Is not the integrity of the actors an issue? These shows are presented as fact and the actors are the show. One simply cannot debate the show without including the actors in the debate.
We are simply trying to get some clarity here Rita.
Thank you for your time.
Jena"


No response so far and my latest email to her is as follows:

"Rita. This has just gotten ridiculous. I just had a post be deleted that was nothing more than a welcome to a new forum member. There's been many more as well. Can something be done about this please? Can you direct me to someone that possibly has some answers?
Many of us, and I mean many many people, have very real issues with PK and PS. If they weren't presented as fact, as if they are documentaries a lot of us wouldn't have such problems with these two shows. PS and especially PK are really stirring up a lot of controversy. I realize that any publicity is good publicity but I sure would like to see A&E act more responsibly.
Thank you for your time.
Jena."

Well, if you've hung in with me so far, thanks! :-) I wasn't planning to be so long winded but... These shows irk me to no end and for a number of reasons. It's truly amazing what A&E is doing with both the production and presentation of these two shows as well as how they operate their "discussion" boards. But FWIW, as far as I know, no one has ever been banned there.

I feel that these two shows deserve as much attention as they can possibly get so I encourage all yall good, decent critical thinkers to have a close looksee and respond accordingly <G>. This is some crazy s*** on several levels. Demons! There's frickin' demons some of these kids are seeing and talking to. WTF! "Reality" TV has taken a giant leap backwards... way back. All the episodes are on youtube for your perusement. YACK! :jaw-dropp
Peace all.
 
Maybe it is time to make yourself a new identity for that board if you are being targeted?
 
Psychic kids?

No no... they need to come out with a show about "Mothers with eyes in the back of their heads" who ACTUALLY turn out to be REAL psychics who have been carelessly brushing off their supernatural powers with a cute silly phrase, because modern day society has closed their minds to the ancient wonders of ooga booga vooda magic bullshi...
 
Maybe it is time to make yourself a new identity for that board if you are being targeted?

It seems that quite a few of us are being targeted. That may be a great collective idea however, I'd think that our communication styles would be pretty easily recognizable.
 
I haven't been targeted yet on the board, all of my posts have been left unedited on AE. I am aware that others have been. The young man/young woman from South Dakota State University decided to post their experience with Mr. Coffey on the A&E boards. Basically, it went as thus, and I'm providing a link to the event for fact checking.


The South Dakota State Collegian - Chip Coffey


The young person went to the event above and tried, through out the performance or lecture, to ask a simple question of Mr. Coffey. When they got their chance to talk to him, the person in question went on stage and asked Mr. Coffey if he could read what was inside the envelope that the young person was carrying. Mr. Coffey seemed peturbed, and the young person said, "This is just to check out your psychic ability." In response to this move, Mr. Coffey, according to the student, yelled out loud, "I will not be challenged!"

The person expressed that each time they shared their account of meeting Mr. Coffey, it was deleted on A&E.

I did notice that nearly every post this person put up was deleted. In retrospect, nothing they had said, other than their opening hello and another post, was left untouched.
 
Looks like that CNN Larry King interview regarding this show is on tonight (July 10).
 
Coffey Talk

It seems that quite a few of us are being targeted. That may be a great collective idea however, I'd think that our communication styles would be pretty easily recognizable.

I've really been supporting the vigilance of the skeptic's crew on A&E, but I've got some criticism about it;

When I got a chance to do some research with Jonquill about what was really going on regarding the census report, it was exciting just to get to the bottom of the case with some real facts. Jonquill pulled up the missing piece of the puzzle, and we had something we could prove on the A&E board was real.

The issue I have with the A&E board is that a couple of the posters, obviously on the side of the skeptics (or pretending to be), had posted messages like "Chip Coffey is a Crack Addict". This not only detracts from what we set out to do by using a "simply the facts ma'am" approach to the issue of the show. Plus, it demeans all skeptics on that board, makes what we are saying look like looney toons and detracts any real action. I'm all for a Robert Anton Wilson meets Church of the Sub Genius approach to things, but it needs to be in the right theater of action.

Despite his obvious public ills, I personally don't think Chip is on crack - posters on A&E saying so doesn't help.

That's kinda of the same thing that happens, for example, when a town, deeply concerned about a company dumping waste and then deciding to stage a rally to let everyone know illegal dumping is going on. Enter Factor 23. Out of the blue, they are given 'help' by folks like Earth First! or R.A.N. Suddenly, well meaning, down home people concerned about the health of their town are swamped with a circus show of freakishly dressed kids totting signs saying god knows what - it takes away from the credibility of the public argument being made.

There's a time for civil discourse, there is also a time for taking the gloves off - and there is a time to pull out the FSM noddle.
 
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How was this show approved? I caught 5 minutes of it and wished it was that "mythical beast hunter" show on the History Channel.
 
I don't know, the way the kids are treated is beyond questionable.

Here's a preview of the current one, Night Terrors, the kids are obviously scared witless and Coffey dresses down the parents for feeding into their fears. Kinda like Psychic Kid bootcamp.


Outside Link - YouTube


I'm not what kind of rationale went behind approving the show, especially when you take 6 - 8 years olds, some with admitted medical conditions, out to a ranch where the kids know before hand the place has had rumored ghost sightings, then you turn off the lights and ask them "what do you see?"
 
Looks like that CNN Larry King interview regarding this show is on tonight (July 10).

I was only able to stomach about 1/2 of it. And that quack woo psychologist they had on was just as out there as John, Char and whoever that annoying Psychic Kids host is. Ugh.
 
The issue I have with the A&E board is that a couple of the posters, obviously on the side of the skeptics (or pretending to be), had posted messages like "Chip Coffey is a Crack Addict". .

LOL! I totally missed that one! Are you sure that's an exact quote? Someone once, recently, called him a child molester and I suggested that maybe they meant he was the "CIA mole, Esther". I agree that when anyone goes a bit too far that it's counter productive to say the least and should not be encouraged.
 
LOL! I totally missed that one! Are you sure that's an exact quote? Someone once, recently, called him a child molester and I suggested that maybe they meant he was the "CIA mole, Esther". I agree that when anyone goes a bit too far that it's counter productive to say the least and should not be encouraged.

Agreed, and to answer your question, yes, that was the exact quote on the board when I saw it, they had posted it (and variants of that) over fourteen times - that part I left out on my original post. The mods had removed it thankfully before any kids got on there.
 
Agreed, and to answer your question, yes, that was the exact quote on the board when I saw it, they had posted it (and variants of that) over fourteen times - that part I left out on my original post. The mods had removed it thankfully before any kids got on there.

Can you tell me who the poster/posters were??? And the approximate times and dates? The mods were not terribly quick to remove personal info posted by a 14yo girl a couple of weeks ago, specific school info and such. In fact, that was the only post that I ever reported and it took at least 20 hours for the mods to get to removing it.
 
Can you tell me who the poster/posters were??? And the approximate times and dates? The mods were not terribly quick to remove personal info posted by a 14yo girl a couple of weeks ago, specific school info and such. In fact, that was the only post that I ever reported and it took at least 20 hours for the mods to get to removing it.

You can google that phrase and it will come up with the poster's name on the A&E board.
 

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