New Book by Tammy Bruce

[dmarker]

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Originally posted by dmarker
No, this just begs more questions.

I like questions.


How do protest marches crush the economy? Isn't Freedom of Assembly guaranteed in our Constitution? Didn't the former Soviet Union and present China suppress this freedom violently? Shouldn't we be better than those countries and allow people to express opinions no matter how midguided and silly?

Duh, by stopping commerce.

Who are the leaders of the NAACP? Sorry, I'm not up on this.

Use a search engine and look it up. I am not going to do the easy things for you. Don't be lazy.

Even Fox network, Bush's cheerleaders in this war? Is Rush Limbaugh part of the Leftist elite because he is part of the major media?

Oh, so conservatives have two of ten thousand media outlets going and that is balance? Not.

From your list it sounds like the Leftist are a pretty big chunk of the country. Are you saying that our country should suppress all these people?

No, leftism always seeks to empower the few while terrorizing the many. Only a small group of folks in comparison to the populations they represent have true power in leftism. Read "The Black Book of Communism" for further details.

JK

I'll condense this. First, has any march closed down a business? Is commerce so important that we have to deny everybody their right to assemble peacefully?

I did look up the leaders of the NAACP, pretty stable people by the looks of them. They have backgrounds in finance, law, and academics for the most part.

Oh, please! Only two! Fox is huge between movies and three national cable channels. Limbaugh is broadcast throughout the country as is G. Gordon Liddy. Name one truly liberal TV or radio show that is national. Not the Bill Maher libertarian stuff, liberal!

But you haven't proved anything have you?

 

[dmarker]

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Matriarchal Totalitarianism is a term I created to describe the current political conditions in the United States.

lol.

Do we need to go through this again with another 50 pages? I take it you are new to this political forum.

JK

Ok, great then you can give me the definition other than "when chicks do something I don't like".

 

[dmarker]

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Oh, so now you went from "there are no extremists" in America except for "abortion clinic bombers", to "put up or shut up". Panties in a knot now, huh.

JK

You stated that ELF was the number one domestic terrorism priority for the FBI. However the FBI doesn't mention ELF at all. I just want the link that you promised.

 

[Jedi Knight]

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dmarker,

With all due respect your logic has one single fatal flaw. In can be sumed up in two words, "Jedi Knight." Though my politics are somewhat different than yours I still must cheer you on and offer you my sincere best wishes in your discussions with JK.

In all fairness many have had enjoyed their comunications with JK. I have grown to like the guy and it is probably unfair of me to harp on him so much. Still his refusal to respond in what I think is a meaningful way can be quite frustrating.

Good luck and I look forward to his responses to you.

FWIW, good argument, good question.

He doesn't get it. He is saying that coursework is approved at the local level after I just got done explaining to him that the "local level" is the leftists hired at the public school. Who do you think is pulling in the leftist indoctrination of public school children? Where did the leftist doping up of kids on Ritalin and all the other psycho-drugs come from? It came from leftist organization taken from the Soviet Union.

Check out how boys in schools are drugged and the controversy over that. The former Soviet Union used to drug people that had problems conforming to the communist system. That is what is happening now in American public schools.

JK

 

[Jedi Knight]

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You stated that ELF was the number one domestic terrorism priority for the FBI. However the FBI doesn't mention ELF at all. I just want the link that you promised.

You need to learn how to use a search engine.

JK

 

[dmarker]

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Of course you didn't mention hiring. Hiring is the key to leftist control--to making the public schools "leftist". They couldn't make them leftist unless they hire leftist minions to run them, right?

The school boards don't matter. School boards allocate slots to hire new teachers, but have nothing to do with the leftist system that absorbs them into the public schools system. Tell you what you need to do--start attending your local school board meetings and take a close look at that and then find a conservative teacher somewhere (good luck trying to find one) who can explain it to you in more detail. My discussion was for someone with slightly more experience than you are demonstrating.

JK

But you didn't answer the questions, JK. What happened to "I like questions"?

First, no matter who is hired the school board determines what is going to be taught period. The school could have the most flaming liberal homosexual commie as a teacher but he or she still cannot teach anything other what the school board allows.

Second, you have not denied that the Religious Right has gained access to many school boards in order to thwart the teaching of evolution as a response to losing in the appelate courts. Your silence means that you must have no counter arguement to this.

Third, what does experience have to do with this? I'm looking for evidence and so far the only thing I've seen is crackpot theories.

 

[dmarker]

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He doesn't get it. He is saying that coursework is approved at the local level after I just got done explaining to him that the "local level" is the leftists hired at the public school. Who do you think is pulling in the leftist indoctrination of public school children? Where did the leftist doping up of kids on Ritalin and all the other psycho-drugs come from? It came from leftist organization taken from the Soviet Union.

Check out how boys in schools are drugged and the controversy over that. The former Soviet Union used to drug people that had problems conforming to the communist system. That is what is happening now in American public schools.

JK

Not that I'm saying that ADD isn't over diagnosed just like many other disorders, but Ritalin has been the drug of choice for those diagnosed for over twenty years.

And the teachers can't hand the stuff out, you have to have doctors as well.

The school board, not the teachers, determine the course work and buy the text books. This is the third time I've said it.

 

[dmarker]

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You need to learn how to use a search engine.

JK

Then why doesn't the FBI list ELF in any of its reports on terrorism that are available through the net? How will a search engine help me there?

Besides you said that you would provide the link. So provide it already.

 

[Jedi Knight]

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But you didn't answer the questions, JK. What happened to "I like questions"?

First, no matter who is hired the school board determines what is going to be taught period. The school could have the most flaming liberal homosexual commie as a teacher but he or she still cannot teach anything other what the school board allows.

Second, you have not denied that the Religious Right has gained access to many school boards in order to thwart the teaching of evolution as a response to losing in the appelate courts. Your silence means that you must have no counter arguement to this.

Third, what does experience have to do with this? I'm looking for evidence and so far the only thing I've seen is crackpot theories.

FBI makes "Earth Liberation Front" #1 domestic terrorist organization. It is at the FBI site too, but your non-researching newbieness is going to check that out yourself.

Now admit you were wrong newby. Then I will link some other items of interest so you can admit you are wrong again, and again, and again, and again.

JK

 

[Jedi Knight]

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Then why doesn't the FBI list ELF in any of its reports on terrorism that are available through the net? How will a search engine help me there?

Besides you said that you would provide the link. So provide it already.

Well Gosh hon, I just did. Can I ask you a question--are you a lady? A feminist?

JK

 

[Jedi Knight]

The FBI has put Earth Liberation Front at the top of the list of domestic terrorism threats, above all of the sources of terrorism so well known to the public, Director Louis Freeh told Congress in February.

That was from the article linked above. Mr. Freeh told Congress (you know, the house and the senate in Washington DC that makes all our laws) that ELF was #1 on the terrorist list. Yep.

I posted the segment just so you wouldn't miss it. Ready to have some more research fun?

JK

 

[RandFan]

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Randfan, when a leftist denies leftist extremism exists in America, what else can be said? lol. Come on, you know I bend over backwards for folks who have the slightest clue about politics, but I dismiss those in denial. It is like trying to make a "Christian" into a "Muslim", and like Mr. Randi says it isn't worth the energy.

Without agreeing I will back out. It is dmarker that is engaging you. I will say that he has asked some fair questions and I wish that you would respond. In any event it is between you and demarker.

Good luck.

RandFan

 

[Jedi Knight]

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Not that I'm saying that ADD isn't over diagnosed just like many other disorders, but Ritalin has been the drug of choice for those diagnosed for over twenty years.

And the teachers can't hand the stuff out, you have to have doctors as well.

The school board, not the teachers, determine the course work and buy the text books. This is the third time I've said it.

Well, where does the "School Board" get its budget recommendations from? Gosh, could it be the school superintendent?

JK

 

[Jedi Knight]

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Not that I'm saying that ADD isn't over diagnosed just like many other disorders, but Ritalin has been the drug of choice for those diagnosed for over twenty years.

And the teachers can't hand the stuff out, you have to have doctors as well.

The school board, not the teachers, determine the course work and buy the text books. This is the third time I've said it.

Man, you are right, I forgot about the ADD lol. As humans we have to put the label on it, right? But yeah, the teachers don't hand it out--they just recommend healthy boys for some "dosage" when they get out of control--you know, act like healthy young boys. Nothing more anti-leftist than an American young boy acting normal.

Then, that is where the school psychiatrist comes in.

JK

 

[Jedi Knight]

Dmarker, you still haven't told me if you were a feminist or not. I am an arch-conservative and a member of the vast, vast, super vast, endless, without end, infinite, light-speed type right wing conspiracy.

Hell, I might even be leading the thing for all I know.

JK

 

[dmarker]

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FBI makes "Earth Liberation Front" #1 domestic terrorist organization. It is at the FBI site too, but your non-researching newbieness is going to check that out yourself.

Now admit you were wrong newby. Then I will link some other items of interest so you can admit you are wrong again, and again, and again, and again.

JK

http://prfamerica.org is the Property Foundation Rights of America. They might be a little biased.

I have searched the FBI site. I finally found something. ELF is considered a serious threat but not the number one domestic terrorist organization.

http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress02/jarboe021202.htm

Here is the link to the report given by James F. Jarboe
Domestic Terrorism Section Chief
Counterterrorism Division
Federal Bureau of Investigation

When reading this report, note that he never says that ELF is a number one priority. He does say that they are harder to catch because they have very little organization.

"Groups such as the ALF and the ELF present unique challenges. There is little if any hierarchal structure to such entities. Eco-terrorists are unlike traditional criminal enterprises which are often structured and organized."


Start linking, my dear. I look forward to your answers.

 

[dmarker]

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Well Gosh hon, I just did. Can I ask you a question--are you a lady? A feminist?

JK

Are you female, male, shemale, tranny?

 

[Jedi Knight]

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http://prfamerica.org is the Property Foundation Rights of America. They might be a little biased.

I have searched the FBI site. I finally found something. ELF is considered a serious threat but not the number one domestic terrorist organization.

http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress02/jarboe021202.htm

Here is the link to the report given by James F. Jarboe
Domestic Terrorism Section Chief
Counterterrorism Division
Federal Bureau of Investigation

When reading this report, note that he never says that ELF is a number one priority. He does say that they are harder to catch because they have very little organization.

"Groups such as the ALF and the ELF present unique challenges. There is little if any hierarchal structure to such entities. Eco-terrorists are unlike traditional criminal enterprises which are often structured and organized."


Start linking, my dear. I look forward to your answers.

Wow, you called me "sweetie" and "my dear"--that is unusual. You must be a girl, right? It is important that I know. I told you I was an arch-conservative--it helps me know where you are coming from.

Now for the details. It is important for the details to be clear, correct? Go to the article I linked and it says that Mr. Freeh briefed Congress that ELF was #1 on the domestic terrorist list. Since Mr. Freeh briefed Congress and said that, isn't that proof?

We aren't going to get into, you know, what the definition of "is" is on the forum now, are we?

JK

 

[Jedi Knight]

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Are you female, male, shemale, tranny?

Oh, I am a heterosexual masculine male.

I only have sex with conservative women.

JK

 

[dmarker]

Dmarker, you still haven't told me if you were a feminist or not. I am an arch-conservative and a member of the vast, vast, super vast, endless, without end, infinite, light-speed type right wing conspiracy.

Hell, I might even be leading the thing for all I know.

JK

I never said that there was a right wing conspiracy even a small one. I never said that there were no extreme left groups either. I just challenged your notion of a left wing conspiracy.

Personally, I don't suscribe to conspiracy theories, mostly because I've never seen evidence for one. So I put it under the same category as Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster, until the person who suscribes to a conspiracy theory brings evidence, I will remain skeptical.

By the way, I'm pretty feminist. Equal pay for equal work, women should be recognized for valid acheivements and all that.