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How do we explain ghosts?

I don't see how a tripod makes a difference.

I'm stumped!

Will you explain it?

Sure. It is a five minute long exposure of my (then) hallway. Kids hid behind the doorway to the right (which I intentionally hid) Kids leapt out and posed motionless for all of minute 3 and then hid again for minute 4 and 5 of the exposure. The tripod is necessary to maintain stability of the camera for a five minute exposure. The camera was taking a still photograph for five frakking minutes. You need a tripod for that kind of stability. And a remote control to eliminate vibration.

As a mad dad I throw challenges in my kids direction. A "genuine" ghost photograph was one of those. This is where we ended up.
 
Ghosts are always situationally dependent. This is the key to understanding why someone believes they saw/heard/felt one. I'll list causes starting from the easiest and obvious first continuing through the more esoteric.

1. Power of Suggestion: A place has a reputation for being haunted and those who experience a ghost are familiar with the stories. Or a building looks "creepy" or seems like it should be haunted. Then there are cases where someone just follows the crowd and talks themselves into believing they've seen a ghost.

2. Hysteria: This one is simple. You hear something moving in the house at 2 a.m. At 2p.m. it's the cat, or the wind knocked something over on the back patio, or heating duct/ plumbing rattling. At 2 a.m. it's either a burglar or the Clown from IT. You grab a baseball bat and search the house and find nothing and go back to your room. Ten minutes later you hear more noise. You've already searched the house and checked the doors and windows. If you are prone to believe in ghosts your mind will always go there first.

3.Cultural Indoctrination and or Peer Pressure: Fact is that there are groups of people who take the existence of ghosts without question. Don't even waste your time trying to argue with them. The other condition comes when someone who has prestige or charisma exposes their belief in ghosts, and those who want to curry favor follow suit without asking questions.

4. Twilight Sleep: This stage is between a waking state and sleeping state where REM is possible without the sleeper's knowledge. 50% of all reported ghosts come during Twilight Sleep.

5. BS: This may come as a shock but some people like to lie for a variety of reasons. Pro Ghost Hunter Tip: if a Bed & Breakfast invites TV ghost hunters to investigate their property there's a 99% chance it ain't haunted.

6. Infrasound: This is the 500-pound gorilla of the Paranormal Experience world. Simply put, this low-frequency sound wave WILL make you feel like you're being watched which leads to hysteria.

This comes out of work done in 1998:

http://www.richardwiseman.com/resources/ghost-in-machine.pdf

These links also explain the phenomenon:

https://science.howstuffworks.com/s...erceptions/infrasound-paranormal-activity.htm

https://curiosity.com/topics/got-a-ghost-problem-it-might-just-be-infrasound-curiosity/

https://gizmodo.com/some-ghosts-may-be-sound-waves-just-below-human-heari-1737065693

This one dovetails with my next point:

https://interestingengineering.com/tuning-ghost-frequency

7. Involuntary Neurological Response to Latent Stimulus: Putting this into English; you have 5 senses that are much more sensitive than we expect. Our 5 senses work in concert to give our brain information about our immediate surroundings. Sometimes this information is inaccurate and can put pictures or sounds in our heads that are not there. A faint change in room temperature, humidity, a faint odor, or a familiar sound can light up parts of your brain. Most of the time your brain does a quick systems check and double check and blows it off. But once in a while your brain will run with it.

Let me explain. There are certain scents that evoke strong emotional responses in people. For example the smell of buttered turkey mixed with mashed potatoes invokes powerful memories of Thanksgiving holidays. A song can come on the radio and I can recall specific events which occurred in my past where that song was on in the background. People often respond negatively to the "Hospital Smell" because nobody goes to the hospital when things are great. Each of these responses come with a cascade of emotions and mental images. The difference is that we're not always aware of the input causing the response.

8. Bad Construction Practices and Poor Construction Materials: My first four paranormal investigations taught me a lot about plumbing and heating. Unsecured pipes will rattle and bang inside walls or against floor beams. In the early 2000's reports of brand new houses being haunted went through the roof with tales of Indian burial grounds and slave cemeteries being desecrated. The truth took a few years but turned out to be devastating: Poisonous Chinese Dry Wall.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114182073

https://www.cpsc.gov/safety-educati...how-can-i-tell-if-my-home-has-problem-drywall

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro...all-causing-home-and-health-hazards/index.htm

The Chinese dry wall signs match up with some big haunted house signs: the smell of sulfur and electric lights turning on and off for no reason. This one came out of the blue and many sleaze-ball ghost hunters took advantage of people.

9. Carbon Monoxide Poisoning: The first thing a good ghost hunter will do is check the CO level in the house. This also falls under poor construction practices but can happen in any home with a gas heater. Over time a person living in a house where CO levels are high will hear voices and sometimes hallucinate. Eventually the CO will kill them but this is dependent on the time of year. Many states now require home owners to by smoke alarms that are also CO detectors.

10. Physiological Changes: Around the time I saw a black hooded figure at the foot of my bed I had become a diabetic and suffered from Sleep Paralysis. Luckily because I was a ghost hunter I knew the image was in my head, but damned if it wasn't impressive anyway. This is when people who didn't believe in ghosts start seeing them. See your doctor and have a comprehensive lab test done.

There are certainly more causes behind why people see ghosts, most of those are related to the effects stress and surprise will have on perception. This is why in crisis situations people tend to focus on random things and relate them to the larger event even though they had nothing to do with the event (we see this with conspiracy theories but this has also put innocent people in prison as well).

What I'm waiting on is research about how smart phones are effecting human perception and reasoning abilities. The rise of reported hauntings seems to merge with the introduction of the smart phone and I'm betting there is a direct link.

I'll end with this. The thing that changed my mind about ghosts is the fact that the most common ghost is that of a still-living person. I've lost count of how many people swear that they heard their wife, husband, child, or sibling somewhere in the house only to discover they were not there. The only solution to this event was that it was all in that person's mind. The fact that it was real to them suggests that sounds and smells can create a false impression because the sounds and smells are familiar coming from an expected place. Your imagination does the rest.

Wow, wow, wow what an incredible and informative response!!!! Did you used to be a ghost hunter? Thank you so much, I am going to copy your notes and re read them, fantastic!!
 
Sure. It is a five minute long exposure of my (then) hallway. Kids hid behind the doorway to the right (which I intentionally hid) Kids leapt out and posed motionless for all of minute 3 and then hid again for minute 4 and 5 of the exposure. The tripod is necessary to maintain stability of the camera for a five minute exposure. The camera was taking a still photograph for five frakking minutes. You need a tripod for that kind of stability. And a remote control to eliminate vibration.

As a mad dad I throw challenges in my kids direction. A "genuine" ghost photograph was one of those. This is where we ended up.

You're just saying that. Its Ghosts really. Innit?
 
Sure. It is a five minute long exposure of my (then) hallway. Kids hid behind the doorway to the right (which I intentionally hid) Kids leapt out and posed motionless for all of minute 3 and then hid again for minute 4 and 5 of the exposure. The tripod is necessary to maintain stability of the camera for a five minute exposure. The camera was taking a still photograph for five frakking minutes. You need a tripod for that kind of stability. And a remote control to eliminate vibration.

As a mad dad I throw challenges in my kids direction. A "genuine" ghost photograph was one of those. This is where we ended up.

Ah, cool, and thanks for explaining!
 
Please, do not think that you will have any effect on those who believe. That is a Sisyphean task. Only worry about your self and be open to helping those who would like your help.

Absolutely, I am just here for myself :-) trying to free myself from superstitious/magical thinking.
I will have to take a trip to the library, lots of recommendations. I do have the duck book but I'm not quite getting it yet.
 
Sure. It is a five minute long exposure of my (then) hallway. Kids hid behind the doorway to the right (which I intentionally hid) Kids leapt out and posed motionless for all of minute 3 and then hid again for minute 4 and 5 of the exposure. The tripod is necessary to maintain stability of the camera for a five minute exposure. The camera was taking a still photograph for five frakking minutes. You need a tripod for that kind of stability. And a remote control to eliminate vibration.

As a mad dad I throw challenges in my kids direction. A "genuine" ghost photograph was one of those. This is where we ended up.

Haha love this! It's good to be a mad dad :-)
My daughter is turning 8 this year, going on 14, they do grow up too quickly:-)
 
Last weekend while walking the dogs I saw a guy leaving a house that had just been built but was not lived in yet. I knew he wasn't a builder because it was Labor Day weekend and no one was working at that time. He had a rather strange expression as if he were feeling a bit guilty. I tended to the dogs for a few seconds and when I looked up, he was gone! He wasn't that far from me, so he couldn't have gotten far. I looked all around - there was no place he could be hiding. I actually mumbled "Where the hell did he go? "

I continued walking the dogs, still looking. Then I finally saw him far down the block.

Here's what I figured out:

1. Leaving the house -- it only appeared that way. He was probably a neighborhood guy that was curious about the house and had just finished peeking in the windows.
2. The strange expression -- He just saw me see him and was feeling sheepish about getting "caught".
3. The disappearance -- When I looked to the dogs and looked back, he had disappeared. Behind the port-a-john that was set in front of the house for the workers! He wasn't hiding -- he had just happened to take that path at an angle where I couldn't see him. It happened to coincide with the parallax view when I kept walking with the dogs. Finally he got far enough where the angle did not obstruct my view of him any more.
 
Haha love this! It's good to be a mad dad :-)
My daughter is turning 8 this year, going on 14, they do grow up too quickly:-)

You have no idea. I threw a challenge to snap a shot of a squirrel with all four feet off the ground.

It took five minutes for one to appear.

I am gonna have to work on th challenges, dammit.
 
How does your imaginary curry exist and also not exist? (I'd insert the confused smile but using Tapatalk and it doesn't exist in tapatalk)
My imaginary curry doesn't exist, even though my body reacted and drooled whilst I was thinking about it.
In the same way that ghosts don't exist, they, just like my curry, are creations of the mind.
I still drooled though.
 
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Wow, wow, wow what an incredible and informative response!!!! Did you used to be a ghost hunter? Thank you so much, I am going to copy your notes and re read them, fantastic!!

Thanks. Technically I still "hunt" ghosts. The question for me isn't "Are Ghosts Real?", but "Why Do Honest People See or Hear Ghosts?".

I have kept track of research that applies to many of the different conditions in which people see something weird. The Human Eye has a hole in the back which under low-light conditions will make you see shadowy figures dark around the room. The eye is connected to the brain, and the brain doesn't always process images correctly.

Example: I was driving to work on a rainy day. As I approached a stop sign I glanced to my left and saw an old man riding a red bike and wearing a yellow rain slick with matching hat. When I came to a stop I waited for the man to pass me due to the narrow street but he was gone. Checking my side mirror I saw that I had passed a mailbox which had yellow ducklings mounted on each side. Due to the extra caution of driving in the rain my brain took partial information and fabricated the image. This is not a hallucination.

Police deal with this kind of thing every day with eye-witnesses. People see things wrong.
 
Wow, can our brains really hallucinate like that and actually see things that aren't there?
Oh yes, through sleep deprivation I experienced a very vivid visual hallucination of the werewolf beast from the movie An American Werewolf in London, tracking alongside my drivers window (@ 70mph) on a fog-bound night on the Nullarbor Plain.

It was convincing enough form me to pull over and tell my mate it was his turn to drive.

He then proceeded to tell me about the nightmare he was having about being chased by wolves, at the very moment I woke him up.
The B side of Tubular Bells was in the cassette deck at the time.
 
Wow, can our brains really hallucinate like that and actually see things that aren't there?

Oh yes. Our minds are very good at filling in the blanks, it's part of how our vision works, we fill in our (literal, biological) blindspot, we 'see' the things were looking at and extrapolate a lot of the background if we believe it is unchanged, and we 'join the dots' when things are partially seen. Hence periadolia (which I can never remember how to spell!). From a survival point of view, a false alarm about a tiger that wasn't there was usually less harmful than a missed alarm about one that was! We're also preprogrammed to see agency, which has caused us a whole heap of trouble as a species.....

Sometimes it all just goes a bit further than normal.
 
In 2006, I was at an archaeological site in New Mexico. I had spent the night, and the next morning, I looked out of my tent, to see a rabbit standing some feet away:

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I watched it for several minutes, wondering why it was not moving, but thought that perhaps there was something I couldn't see that it was watching. During this time, I took the photo you're seeing.






This is a prickly pear cactus, opuntiaWP doing a very good job of pretending to be a rabbit .
 
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My imaginary curry doesn't exist, even though my body reacted and drooled whilst I was thinking about it.
In the same way that ghosts don't exist, they, just like my curry, are creations of the mind.
I still drooled though.
I'm sorry but something can't both exist and not exist! That's rather a profound contradiction.

I think what you are meaning to say is your imaginary curry doesnt have the same properties as a curry you have on your plate, but your imaginary curry does still exist.
 
Thanks. Technically I still "hunt" ghosts. The question for me isn't "Are Ghosts Real?", but "Why Do Honest People See or Hear Ghosts?".

I think this is a much more interesting question TBH.

There was a ghist bunting show (can't remember the name) where one of the three 'experts' was a housing inspector, he came up with much more interesting, occasionally bloody obvious, reasons than the 'medium' or the 'paranormal investigator'. Other than redundant ductwork and overgrown trees, one of the more unusual was a woman who claimed to have been thrown down a spiral staircase, which he observed was illegal because it had no handrail, an unsafe pitch, the drywall in the hallway was out of true causing slight disorientation and I think the last few inches of landing was sloped to meet the stairs as they were fractionally too short. No 'push' required, the stairs were a potential deathtrap!
 

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