H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007

[boloboffin]

Behold, the text of the final NWO crackdown on the 9/11 Truth Movement: H.R. 1955, Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007.

You might read this and think, "Well, I'm glad somebody's going to look into this problem and see what can be done." You may read this and think, "Jane Harman's got a lock on a nice pork project for her favorite university," but the 9/11 Truth Movement knows better than you.

Homeland Security Links 9/11 Truthers to Taliban

by Barbara Peterson

Do you remember when Bush Jr. said, “either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists”? Well, he meant it. Homeland Security’s sub-committee on terrorism risk assessment convened a hearing on 11-06-2007 to discuss “using the Web as a weapon – the Internet as a tool for violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism.” In a video of this meeting, which was last aired by C-Span on 11-12-2007, members of the sub-committee clearly pointed to Internet sites that question the legitimacy of the official 9/11 story as tools for recruiting terrorists.

...One of these “media portals” displayed in the Power Point presentation is Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. This site is sandwiched between a Taliban training manual, and several Taliban recruitment sites showing how to make bombs, take captives, and blow buildings up.

Representative Jane Harmon posed the following question to Bruce Hoffman regarding extremist groups using the Internet to recruit potential terrorists: “So this movement develops them into violent killers?” Bruce Hoffman, a Georgetown University security studies professor, and Chairman of the Rand Corporation in Counterterrorism and Counterinsurgency, stated that “falsehoods and conspiracy theorists have become so ubiquitous and believed that you almost have some sort of parallel truth, and it has become a very effective tool for recruiting people.” The “people” he is referring to are potential terrorists. Mark Weitzman stated: “These people are constructing their own version of reality, full of conspiracy theories, full of doctored videos, that will recruit or inflame the emotions.” 9/11 “conspiracy theorist” groups are included in this generalization.

By portraying sites such as Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth as terrorist recruitment organizations, the Department of Homeland Security has taken a dangerous step towards punishing anyone who questions the government. If you go to the A&E Website, you will see that it is a group of “ 212 architectural and engineering professionals and 518 other supporters including A/E students who have joined...in demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation of the collapse of the WTC buildings.” Their mission statement is, “To research and to disseminate the truth of the 9/11 “collapses” of all 3 WTC high-rise buildings to every architect and engineer.” I cannot find any indication that this site promotes terrorism, much less recruits terrorists for the Taliban, yet the Department of Homeland Security has taken the stance that the site is “intended to recruit or inflame the emotions” (Weitzman, M.), and lumps it in with sites disseminating the Taliban Training Manual, and advocating suicide bombings.

When it was pointed out at DU, and perhaps other sites, that the Department of Homeland Security shouldn't be equated with either the HR Committee on Homeland Security or the Simon Wiesenthal Center, not if you want to be taken seriously, a second article was quickly posted by Steve and Paul Watson:

House Subcommittee Presentation Equates 9/11 Truth With Terrorism

A House Homeland Security Subcommittee hearing on "Terrorism and the Internet" held last week, and broadcast on C-Span, featured a panel of "experts", including representatives formerly of the RAND Corporation and the Simon Wiesenthal Center who presented 9/11 truth websites sites alongside sites that celebrate the attacks and offer training in terrorist tactics.

The hearing was chaired by Democratic Rep. Jane Harman, and ranking Republican, Rep. Dave Reichert. It was supposed to focus on the use of the internet by "home grown terrorist recruiters" yet in a shocking move it blatantly related the 9/11 truth movement with so called radical "jihadists".

In a very poorly prepared and delivered PowerPoint splurge, Mark Weitzman stated:

"Some of these are conspiracy theories that present a closed view of the world, such as blaming 9/11 as an "outside job"(?) or blaming outside groups such as the U.S. government, or er the Jews etc, some of these are pro-Iraqi insurgency videos, some of them are media portals that people can enter into, ones that you saw earlier with the flags, the U.S. flags show that thy were based on U.S. servers..."

Under the heading "Internet: Incubator of 9/11 Conspiracies and Disinformation " Weiztman threw in video of WTC building 7 collapsing on 9/11 as posted on various 9/11 truth affiliated websites, along with screen shots of the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth site and other sites, such as Killtown's, who raised awareness of this .

"We need to be aware of the empowering effect of the internet upon extremists, we must have researchers and responders for both the technical and and linguistic skills to keep us informed and to be able to respond to what is online. We must make users aware of the misinformation and of the techniques used by extremists." Weitzman continued.

The entire hearing can be viewed online at here.

So this is what happened, if you go watch the C-Span broadcast. Weitzman had 5 minutes to make his presentation, and had brought a PowerPoint presentation that obviously required an hour. Very likely this was just a standard presentation that he can do for anyone who asks for a speaker from the SWC. As he hurridly moved through the presentation, the camera picked up for a brief moment a slide with AE911Truth. Weitzman didn't even refer to it. Literally, the authors of that second article had to freeze the frame to write down the subject heading under which the slide had been grouped.

9/11 CTers are at DU right now, squealing about how this bill is going to let Bush label them all Padillas and disappear them to the mountains of the Ukraine. It is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time. None of them has bothered to even read the bill. They've seized onto some findings at the beginning and think that it give Bush a blank check to do whatever he wants.

All manufactured outrage, in other words, to pump this momentary appearance on C-Span for all it is worth in free publicity. Booga-booga-booga!

 

[Brainster]

It would make a great Twilight Zone episode if we had one of these preachers of Doom and Gloom suddenly wake up to find that the world they've been selling to their flock really existed.

 

[leftysergeant]

Why are they whining about AE911 getting lump in with Barret getting lumped in with al Qaeda? The only problem i could see with the presentation is if they didn't lump them in with Stormfront and National Vanguard.

 

[bofors]

You might read this and think, "Well, I'm glad somebody's going to look into this problem and see what can be done."...

[Edit]

Incivility and attacking the arguer.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LibraryLady

 

[boloboffin]

The only problem I see here is your raging ignorance.

Why don't you explain all about my ignorance? What have I got wrong? Be sure and support what you say from the actual bill.

 

[Alareth]

The only problem I see here is your raging ignorance.

Are you in a room filled with mirrors?

 

[boloboffin]

And bofors flees again.

 

[pomeroo]

The only problem I see here is your raging ignorance.

Hey, that's telling him, Roadrunner.

Beep-beep. Z-O-O-O-O-O-M !!!!!

 

[chillzero]

Please don't personalise discussions, so that they are more likely to remain civil.
Thanks.

 

[T.A.M.]

it'll be like watching mice scurry. Yet despite their irrational, paranoid fears, NOTHING will happen to them, their movement will still be allowed to spread their hate and accusations and speculation, despite the turn to fascism and police state that THEIR USA will become.

Quick, duck truthers, the black helicopters will see you.

TAM

 

[LashL]

9/11 CTers are at DU right now, squealing about how this bill is going to let Bush label them all Padillas and disappear them to the mountains of the Ukraine. It is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time. None of them has bothered to even read the bill. They've seized onto some findings at the beginning and think that it give Bush a blank check to do whatever he wants.

All manufactured outrage, in other words, to pump this momentary appearance on C-Span for all it is worth in free publicity. Booga-booga-booga!

Well, twoofers are nothing if not consistently ridiculous, misinformed, and deliberately obtuse.

 

[JMarshall]

So that's why my handler preformed a drop with local 9/11Truth group information in it... I was wondering since there weren't any official NWO orders inside the envelope...

 

[boloboffin]

Be alert! Jane Harman has defined violent radicalization and is setting up UCLA to do a study on it! Protection of civil rights is part of the commission and the study mandates, but you know Bush will issue a signing statement making this end of teh wurrrrlld!!!!

 

[Brainster]

The Urinal of 9-11 Stundies (PDF) posted an open letter from Reprehensor to Congresswoman Harman on this. As with all "open letters" it's not really aimed at the nominal recipient, but at the rest of the Troof movement.

 

[MetalliSociety]

The only problem I see here is your raging ignorance.

Wat evidence have you brought forward to discussion?

All that you've done that put you on the map so to speak here is get mad when Gravy put you in your place and try to file a lawsuit like a juvenile.

Can't we all just ignore this guy and get on with our discussions like civilized people?

And boloboffin, isn't that all Truthers do is listen to portions they want to hear and then try and run with it, only to look foolish to the average joe with common sense?

 

[boloboffin]

Pretty much, MetalliSociety. However, a lot of the more articulate CTers are hyping this bill. They really do see this as a threat. I've not seen things go this wide in the CT world since Zeitgeist. That's what made me bring it back here.

 

[MetalliSociety]

Zeitgeist...pfft...if I haven't become swamped with grad school h/w the past two months i'd of had my rebuttal to it out by now. Just have the bankers part to do and it'll be done.

But academic work for my future will always come first!

 

[RedIbis]

I don’t know what’s worse, the passing of a bill that uses vague and broad language to quell dissent or the tired groan of apathy that such news elicits.

 

[boloboffin]

RedIbis: please explain how this bill "quells dissent." Please use direct quotations from the bill from a section other than the definitions or the findings, as neither section possesses any legal instrument to quell dissent.

 

[JimBenArm]

I don’t know what’s worse, the passing of a bill that uses vague and broad language to quell dissent or the tired groan of apathy that such news elicits.

Is this better?
Oh my god, everyone run for the hills! Grab up the wimmins and childrens! My hair's on fire! Good lord, they've gone and done it! Oh, the humanity! Please, take him, I have a family! I'll be good, honest! Oh, god, it hurts, stop, oh, don't, stop, oh, don't, stop, don't stop, don't stop, oh yeah baby, don't stop, oh, sorry, got carried away.
"When in danger, or in doubt;
Run in circles, scream and shout!"