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H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007

BenBurch said:
Except that Dr. Paul is misrepresenting the bill to you entirely.
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How is that?

Home Land Security is not only scary but is an entirely ineffective bureaucracy, how can this be anything but a tutorial in Orwellian Newspeak?

“Political language has to consist largely of euphemisms . . . and sheer cloudy vagueness.”
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- George Orwell -

Some vague terminology examples right from the beginning of this gem:

"and other purposes" and "extreme beliefs"

..and other purposes? That's a pretty broad definition.

...extreme beliefs?

Belief:
1. The mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or confidence in another: My belief in you is as strong as ever.
2. Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something: His explanation of what happened defies belief.
3. Something believed or accepted as true, especially a particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons.
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Extreme:
1. of a character or kind farthest removed from the ordinary or average: extreme measures.
2. utmost or exceedingly great in degree: extreme joy.
3. farthest from the center or middle; outermost; endmost: the extreme limits of a town.
4. farthest, utmost, or very far in any direction: an object at the extreme point of vision.
5. exceeding the bounds of moderation: extreme fashions.
6. going to the utmost or very great lengths in action, habit, opinion, etc.: an extreme conservative.
7. last or final: extreme hopes.
8. Chiefly Sports. extremely dangerous or difficult: extreme skiing.
–noun
9. the utmost or highest degree, or a very high degree: cautious to an extreme.
10. one of two things as remote or different from each other as possible: the extremes of joy and grief.
11. the furthest or utmost length; an excessive length, beyond the ordinary or average: extremes in dress.
12. an extreme act, measure, condition, etc.: the extreme of poverty.
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So do I need to point out how many different interpretations this can have due to the sheer vagueness?

Extreme Beliefs? According to whom? Who defines what 'normal' is to determine what 'their' definition of extreme would be? What may be extreme to one, maybe the norm for another.

..and on and on. :tragedy:
 
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HereticHulk said:
How is that?

Home Land Security is not only scary but is an entirely ineffective bureaucracy, how can this be anything but a tutorial in Orwellian Newspeak?


- George Orwell -

Some vague terminology examples right from the beginning of this gem:

"and other purposes" and "extreme beliefs"

..and other purposes? That's a pretty broad definition.

...extreme beliefs?

Belief:


Extreme:


So do I need to point out how many different interpretations this can have due to the sheer vagueness?

Extreme Beliefs? According to whom? Who defines what 'normal' is to determine what 'their' definition of extreme would be? What may be extreme to one, maybe the norm for another.

..and on and on. :tragedy:
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This is CT, not politics - do you understand anything? The problem with 9/11 CTers is they can not draw the line between facts and lies, that is called politics, go start a thread in politics! Cool
 
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