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Merged Due process in the US

yeah, i just thought it was interesting that after hearing it repeated over and over that a judge ruled that he was ms13 a hundred thousand times, that a judge ruled there was no evidence he was ms13 most recently. i thought people would want to know that.
 
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Huh. The poster boy for the fight for Due Process Rights. Held up as a hero, an innocent "Maryland Man", a loving father, loving husband.

Will be brought back to the USA to face charges of human smuggling.

I knew this guy was bad news. I knew making him the hero would come back to haunt us.

I knew it.

Luckily the fight for Due Process for all persons in the USA has moved passed this wife-beating, gang-banger associating loser.

The alleged conspiracy spanned nearly a decade and involved the domestic transport of thousands of noncitizens from Mexico and Central America, including some children, in exchange for thousands of dollars, according to the indictment. Abrego-Garica is alleged to have participated in more than 100 such trips, according to the indictment. Among those allegedly transported were members of the Salvadoran gang MS-13, sources familiar with the investigation said.
 
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And deporting the Uganda?
What’s with deporting to any country that an individual has no link to?
What sort of legal system allows this. Yes asylum if a country volunteers to help, but forced deportation is just a symptom of this administration’s cruelty and vindictiveness.
 
And deporting the Uganda?
What’s with deporting to any country that an individual has no link to?
What sort of legal system allows this. Yes asylum if a country volunteers to help, but forced deportation is just a symptom of this administration’s cruelty and vindictiveness.
There's a chance they're so geographically ignorant that they think South America is a country and that Uganda, El Salvador, etc., are its states.
 
Kilmar Abrego García has just been detained by ICE after arriving at the agency's Baltimore field office as part of a required check-in, according to his attorney.

"The only reason to take him into detention was to punish him."
 
Immigration law...is not exactly law. It is bureucrats and judges appointed to run through a lot of cases with no jury etc.
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If DOJ has evidence of criminal conduct by Kilmar Abrego Garcia, why are they deporting him without a trial?
BELOW:
littlemamakin
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Why "deport" anyone to Uganda? If he's not sentenced for a crime, why send him anywhere? If he's to be deported, why not let him choose where to go once he's outside of our borders? None of this makes sense to me.
 
That notion was proven wrong because it was based on the incorrect assumption that all three branches couldn't become corrupted by the same group of people at the same time.
That wasn't the idea, the idea was that they would check each other on account of wanting to maintain their own power. Congress just throwing away any power out of fear of accountability wasn't anticipated.
 
Immigration law...is not exactly law. It is bureucrats and judges appointed to run through a lot of cases with no jury etc.
Well, be careful. Immigration law is a recognized legal practice and can reach Article III authority if needed. The fact that most immigration matters are handled by Article II courts does not absolve them of compliance with statute, nor negate due process.

If DOJ has evidence of criminal conduct by Kilmar Abrego Garcia, why are they deporting him without a trial?
A good rhetorical question. Legal analysis of the criminal complaint and its purported evidence reveals it to be purely pretextual. And the pretext was simply the fig leaf to justify how the administration could remove Abrego from El Salvador as some kind of special case. Now that the administration has satisfied its obligation to obey the withholding of removal order, it can try again.

Why "deport" anyone to Uganda?
Ostensibly because Uganda will in turn deport Abrego back to CECOT in El Salvador, but this time perhaps in such a way that the U.S. cannot reasonably be held accountable for it. In theory refoulement is transitive—you cannot deport someone in any fashion if you have evidence that the end result will be deportation to a withheld country. But the legal machinery to enforce this is shaky.

Make no mistake: Abrego has thwarted and embarrassed the thugs in the Trump administration, and they will spare no effort to punish him in the worst way possible.

If he's not sentenced for a crime, why send him anywhere? If he's to be deported, why not let him choose where to go once he's outside of our borders? None of this makes sense to me.
Of course it doesn't because this administration has left behind all pretense to normality, the rule of law, and due process.

Abrego is entitled to due process in two ways. Regardless of any allegations of criminal conduct, he is entitled to due process prior to a removal order. It is likely that his present detention is a preface to his removal without any such process—again. Separately, he is entitled to due process for the resolution of the criminal charges against him: bail, speedy trial, compulsory production of evidence, etc. A conviction upon such charges may thereafter inform his removal proceedings. It is my understanding that Abrego rejected a plea agreement that would have deported him to Costa Rica. It is within his rights not to accept any plea agreement for criminal charges that also requires his removal from the country.
 
Trump's troops detain a Black lawyer in D.C.—swarmed by 20 officers just for walking down the block.

Paul Bryant plans to press charges on those who assaulted him "in a way that I will not forget anytime soon."

He is a West Point graduate—and served as Infantry Officer in Army before starting his legal career.

Officers from the Metropolitan Police Department, FBI, and other federal agencies stopped him for no reason in Logan Circle, Washington D.C.

He was handcuffed for an hour while his vehicle was searched without permission.

 
Make no mistake: Abrego has thwarted and embarrassed the thugs in the Trump administration, and they will spare no effort to punish him in the worst way possible.

they're taking it weirdly personally that they can't destroy this guy. he was just a scapegoat
 
they're taking it weirdly personally that they can't destroy this guy. he was just a scapegoat
'He' showed them up.

These are people who have the emotional intelligence of a toddler and a handful of narcissistic related disorders (probably). They're incapable of admitting they were wrong and are happy to make it someone else’s problem
 
It is my understanding that Abrego rejected a plea agreement that would have deported him to Costa Rica. It is within his rights not to accept any plea agreement for criminal charges that also requires his removal from the country.
There are worse places to go into exile than CR (though I'm not suggesting Abrego should have taken the deal). I'd hold out until after hurricane season, though.
 

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