Crop circle debunking help needed

[23_Tauri]

No, I'm saying the vid doesn't prove who made it. If I showed you a vid containing a recent masterpiece of an oil painting, and also me dipping a brush in some paint and touching the canvas with it, and saying "see this is how I did it." Wouldn't you feel a little robbed of the lesson? Would you consider it evidence that I most likely was the artist?

A better analogy would be you standing in an art gallery, in front of a Titian, and proclaiming that because you couldn't paint it, then it must have been painted by something other than a human being.

 

[Lamuella]

I'd think it was a step up out of depression for someone who'd own a porcupine that pissed on graves.

congratulations, you managed to notice that I have a userpic.

Now, would you like to talk about the fact that your argument comes down to "I find this hard to believe"?

 

[chuck4842]

I don't think the sentence you quoted means what you think it means.

Tsig is talking about the ability of a circle maker in the dark to see what he or she is doing in the dark, not the ability of a farmer in a well lit house to see people are doing in the dark.

EDIT: it says you're from the piedmont area of NC. I lived in that area for 8 years, and I've had several nights where I went out into the middle of nowhere in parts of the piedmont (especially round bessemer city and kings mountain) with friends at night. After ten minutes or so, your eyes adjust well enough to see pretty clearly by moonlight alone. Don't confuse what you can see when you're on the porch of a well lit house with what someone in the dark can see.

So circlemakers eyes adjust to the dark fine for making formations at night 6 football fields long, but farmers eyes cant adjust to the duty of just catching them. Much less hearing 60 people in his field. I had no idea the world was full of deaf and blind farmers.

 

[Stray Cat]

So circlemakers eyes adjust to the dark fine for making formations at night 6 football fields long, but farmers eyes cant adjust to the duty of just catching them. Much less hearing 60 people in his field. I had no idea the world was full of deaf and blind farmers.

How many people could you see and hear in your field if you were tucked up in bed asleep a mile away?

 

[chuck4842]

A better analogy would be you standing in an art gallery, in front of a Titian, and proclaiming that because you couldn't paint it, then it must have been painted by something other than a human being.

I haven't seen a vid showing sacred geometry the likes we find in formations of the last ten years. Just one time lapse to speed things up from beginning to end. Show me one and I'll shut up. You act like these formations are of recent discovery.

 

[Stray Cat]

I haven't seen a vid showing sacred geometry the likes we find in formations of the last ten years. Just one time lapse to speed things up from beginning to end. Show me one and I'll shut up. You act like these formations are recent.

So now you're claiming that people don't know how to plot sacred geometry?
Do you even know what sacred geometry is or that it's generally the easiest simple geometry to work out (which is why nature uses it all the time).

But tell me which sacred geometry filled crop circle and I'll explain how easy it is to plot.

 

[Lamuella]

So circlemakers eyes adjust to the dark fine for making formations at night 6 football fields long, but farmers eyes cant adjust to the duty of just catching them. Much less hearing 60 people in his field. I had no idea the world was full of deaf and blind farmers.

do you understand the difference between a person in the dark looking at things in the dark, and a person in the light looking at things in the dark?

Plus, what gives you the impression that it takes 60 people to make a circle?

 

[chuck4842]

How many people could you see and hear in your field if you were tucked up in bed asleep a mile away?

I wouldn't be asleep after the first trespass. They're happening constantly in southern England every year.

 

[Stray Cat]

I wouldn't be asleep after the first trespass. They're happening constantly in southern England every year.

And whilst you were operating your busy farm, working 18 hard hours a day, which nights (out of the potential 120 odd) would you choose to deprive yourself of sleep in order to sit out 'just in case' some circlemakers chose your field on that particular night?

 

[23_Tauri]

I haven't seen a vid showing sacred geometry the likes we find in formations of the last ten years. Just one time lapse to speed things up from beginning to end. Show me one and I'll shut up.

I'll echo Stray Cat and ask you to post one of these formations based on 'sacred' geometry, and then he'll show you how it's constructed.

You act like these formations are of recent discovery.

Please tell me you're not going to bring up the mowing devil.

 

[Stray Cat]

Plus, what gives you the impression that it takes 60 people to make a circle?

I think Chuck is referring to the video I linked regarding the mothman formation.

 

[chuck4842]

do you understand the difference between a person in the dark looking at things in the dark, and a person in the light looking at things in the dark?

The mistake here, is I'm stating I wouldn't be in the light, I'd set up camp near my field when the crop was starting to mature, it's warm right?

Plus, what gives you the impression that it takes 60 people to make a circle?

The XLD-Sign peeps say that's how many they used to make the Butterfly formation according to dutch translators of the vid Stray Cat posted.

 

[Stray Cat]

Please tell me you're not going to bring up the mowing devil.

Naaaaa.... that didn't have anything to do with sacred geometry and everything to do with Satanic geometry.

 

[Akhenaten]

I wouldn't be asleep after the first trespass. They're happening constantly in southern England every year.

And there's only one farm in southern England, is there?

 

[Stray Cat]

The mistake here, is I'm stating I wouldn't be in the light, I'd set up camp near my field when the crop was starting to mature,

For how many of the potential 30 to 40 nights (of matured wheat)?
All of them?

You know that many of the circles are made in unmatured crop right?

 

[chuck4842]

And whilst you were operating your busy farm, working 18 hard hours a day, which nights (out of the potential 120 odd) would you choose to deprive yourself of sleep in order to sit out 'just in case' some circlemakers chose your field on that particular night?

I didn't know you were a farmer. Please enlighten us as to what the farmer is doing to mature crops for 18 hrs?

 

[Lamuella]

The mistake here, is I'm stating I wouldn't be in the light, I'd set up camp near my field when the crop was starting to mature, it's warm right?

And how many nights of the year are you doing this, in addition to working incredibly long hours on your farm?

The XLD-Sign peeps say that's how many they used to make the Butterfly formation according to dutch translators of the vid Stray Cat posted.

that's the largest crop circle ever made. It also had a film crew involved. Most circle makers will work with a much much smaller group. Plenty are made by just two people.

 

[Lamuella]

I didn't know you were a farmer. Please enlighten us as to what the farmer is doing to mature crops for 18 hrs?

what hours do you think a farmer works, then?

 

[Stray Cat]

I didn't know you were a farmer. Please enlighten us as to what the farmer is doing to mature crops for 18 hrs?

Oh sorry I forgot, he just plants some seeds in spring and then sits with his feet up with nothing to do until September.

Are you for real?

 

[chuck4842]

And there's only one farm in southern England, is there?

Yeah, and them dang aliens keep going there. Same bat channel, same bat day. My point was England's small in the 1st place. But if you divide it , it can't be that difficult to do some surveillance. Motion sensors aren't high. A dog maybe even?