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Chris Rufo

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Turns out most people I know in real life don't know who he is. They are better off for it.

1. MAGA architect.
2. Checked out centrist
3. Politically engaged lefty (My wife)

Granted, small sample size.

Edit, I think I'd be happier and better off not knowing who he is.
 
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So, I asked my Mother in law, no idea who he was. She's very connected in South Florida politics.

So, if you know who chris rufo is, you are a weirdo. Worth noting.
 
So, I asked my Mother in law, no idea who he was. She's very connected in South Florida politics.

So, if you know who chris rufo is, you are a weirdo. Worth noting.

If your mother-in-law is involved in Florida politics then it’s quite a surprise that she doesn’t know who he is.

He’s clearly been quite successful at pushing his religious conservative agenda.

He openly argues for other activists to essentially create moral panics around things like critical race theory and to blur the lines between what it actually is and, say, teaching that there used to be slavery in the United States and by the way, that was bad.

I listened to him having a debate about “woke-ism” with Yascha Mounk, who has a more cerebral and less febrile opposition to identity politics, and Rufo was running through a bunch of talking points about how the US was a republic, not a democracy and that Mounk was wrong about what can and can’t be taught in schools and universities and clearly Mounk hadn’t properly read the legislation that Rufo had had a hand in writing. Ruff’s view is that legislation is the way to suppress “woke ideology” whereas Mounk is more of the idea that debate is the best way to combat it.

(That said Mounk has now been accused of rape and been let go by the Atlantic and being investigated by his university. This is a big shame because Mounk is actually pretty interesting. I certainly hope the accusations turn out to be untrue, but it seems there is little chance for that to happen as the purported victim has not gone to the police and it is unclear how he is supposed to clear his name.)

Anyway, one thing that is not so well-known about Rufo is that he was a fellow at the Discovery Institute which, as we all know, is an organization that has been using similar propaganda techniques to get “Intelligent Design” taught in schools. It seems that he and the Discovery Institute know full well that they are engaged in hyperbole, moral panic and dishonest framing of issues in order to gain power and popularity. Rufo is quite often flagrant about it.

https://www.discovery.org/p/rufo/
 
I looked him up and now move sideways from the category of those who did not know who he was to those who wish they did not.
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If your mother-in-law is involved in Florida politics then it’s quite a surprise that she doesn’t know who he is.

He’s clearly been quite successful at pushing his religious conservative agenda.

He openly argues for other activists to essentially create moral panics around things like critical race theory and to blur the lines between what it actually is and, say, teaching that there used to be slavery in the United States and by the way, that was bad.

I listened to him having a debate about “woke-ism” with Yascha Mounk, who has a more cerebral and less febrile opposition to identity politics, and Rufo was running through a bunch of talking points about how the US was a republic, not a democracy and that Mounk was wrong about what can and can’t be taught in schools and universities and clearly Mounk hadn’t properly read the legislation that Rufo had had a hand in writing. Ruff’s view is that legislation is the way to suppress “woke ideology” whereas Mounk is more of the idea that debate is the best way to combat it.

(That said Mounk has now been accused of rape and been let go by the Atlantic and being investigated by his university. This is a big shame because Mounk is actually pretty interesting. I certainly hope the accusations turn out to be untrue, but it seems there is little chance for that to happen as the purported victim has not gone to the police and it is unclear how he is supposed to clear his name.)

Anyway, one thing that is not so well-known about Rufo is that he was a fellow at the Discovery Institute which, as we all know, is an organization that has been using similar propaganda techniques to get “Intelligent Design” taught in schools. It seems that he and the Discovery Institute know full well that they are engaged in hyperbole, moral panic and dishonest framing of issues in order to gain power and popularity. Rufo is quite often flagrant about it.

https://www.discovery.org/p/rufo/

I'm guessing Claudine Gay wishes she didn't know who he is.

I know! But I've just realize that you and I are ******* weird! My MIL was a county commisioner in Miami Dade county, she regularly goes to various FL political events, she has pictures of herself with every national democratic politician in the last 20 years, but didn't know who Chris Rufo was until I asked her, "do you know who chris rufo is? "

The fact that you know who he is makes you weird.

My mind is blown by this.
 
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IMHO, Rufo is on the list of folks who I think aren't quite wrong but are terrible none the less. Literally encourages creating a moral panic, a panic about a thing that is a problem but not in the way he says it is or as much as he says it is.
 
of course, that's dishonest and a manipulation. it's perfectly normal to not like guys that do that. i'm not particularly aware of him besides the name looking familiar, but yeah if he's making a living lying and manipulating people for political purposes yeah he sucks and people should know what he's up to.
 
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I know! But I've just realize that you and I are ******* weird! My MIL was a county commisioner in Miami Dade county, she regularly goes to various FL political events, she has pictures of herself with every national democratic politician in the last 20 years, but didn't know who Chris Rufo was until I asked her, "do you know who chris rufo is? "

The fact that you know who he is makes you weird.

My mind is blown by this.

A better comparison would be to ask her if she knows who Joshua Micah Marshall or Alex Pareene are; they are more comparable to Rufo than national pols.
 
of course, that's dishonest and a manipulation. it's perfectly normal to not like guys that do that. i'm not particularly aware of him besides the name looking familiar, but yeah if he's making a living lying and manipulating people for political purposes yeah he sucks and people should know what he's up to.

The thing is that Rufo is completely upfront about what he is up to.

He literally tweets it out.

He and James Lindsay (who used to be an atheist apparently), literally discussed what they were doing on Twitter here:

Rufo said:
We have successfully frozen their brand—"critical race theory"—into the public conversation and are steadily driving up negative perceptions. We will eventually turn it toxic, as we put all of the various cultural insanities under that brand category.

Rufo said:
The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory." We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans.
 
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I know! But I've just realize that you and I are ******* weird! My MIL was a county commisioner in Miami Dade county, she regularly goes to various FL political events, she has pictures of herself with every national democratic politician in the last 20 years, but didn't know who Chris Rufo was until I asked her, "do you know who chris rufo is? "

The fact that you know who he is makes you weird.

My mind is blown by this.

Your mind is blown by how weird I am? You probably don't want to know just how weird.
 
Turns out most people I know in real life don't know who he is. They are better off for it.

1. MAGA architect.
2. Checked out centrist
3. Politically engaged lefty (My wife)

Granted, small sample size.

Edit, I think I'd be happier and better off not knowing who he is.

I know earlier on in the year it was found that he had close links with some really nast neo-nazis. So what's he done now?
 
He's a mediocre white guy telling other mediocre white guys what they want to hear. His shtick is that he dresses it up in what sounds like the language of academia.
 
So she didn't commit plagiarism? It was all lies?

No she didn't commit plagiarism. What she did was, for a non-academic book, quote somebody else's work in such a way that wasn't to the specific standard for a Harvard published academic paper.

To put it in terms you might understand it'd be like accusing an athlete of throwing a race they didn't compete in when two years laterthey didn't run as fast as they could have done in training.

But hey, the far right never looked at a manufactovery they faked without liking it.
 
No she didn't commit plagiarism. What she did was, for a non-academic book, quote somebody else's work in such a way that wasn't to the specific standard for a Harvard published academic paper.

To put it in terms you might understand it'd be like accusing an athlete of throwing a race they didn't compete in when two years laterthey didn't run as fast as they could have done in training.

But hey, the far right never looked at a manufactovery they faked without liking it.

Which book was this? My understanding is that she hasn’t published any books.
 
No she didn't commit plagiarism. What she did was, for a non-academic book, quote somebody else's work in such a way that wasn't to the specific standard for a Harvard published academic paper.

Is there no limit to the things you are wrong about?
 
Is there no limit to the things you are wrong about?
There is, however, in modern discourse, there is no limit to the lengths folks will go to defend folks nominally on their side because the other side is so much worse. I happen to believe in the US, the GOP is clearly worse than the Dems. On the other hand, the dems are bad none-the-less. Much like, Rufo is ****** and also Claudine Gay is clearly a plagiarist and remarkably hypocritical when it comes to political expression on campass.
 

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