Chris Rufo

[angrysoba]

A lot of those celebrity atheists were rich white guys who were big shots in their fields. A lot of their atheism wasn't about specific issues about the effects of religion or any actual thought about the existence of God, but rather the fact they wanted to do drugs and have the type of sex they liked. Their positions regarding things like gender and race typically fell well within the bounds of what was acceptable to the traditional institutions they were supposedly rebelling against. Their true colors started to show as soon as someone who wasn't an old white guy with the right connections started speaking up and correcting them.

that's how someone like [insert person we thought was cool 10 years ago] can be a racist transphobic *******. In the end, he's an old, rich white guy.

I don’t think Ayaan Hirshi Ali fits that mould at all being a black woman and all.

Also, this “analysis” isn’t of any use at all.

 

[Donal]

I said "a lot" not "all". And it's useful to understand how some folks who were considered "cool intellectual outsiders" turn out to be old racist curmudgeons talking hard right turns into conservative Christianity (or something adjacent to it).

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Yeah, he is a religious nut and no doubt he believes that if the good LORD wanted women to have children he would let the seed grow in their womb, and should the womb be barren or the man's seed be not potent, then it is not for man to intervene with Satanic science.

I mean, I remember reading someone doing a reductio ad absurdum on the abortion debate arguing that, "well if you are against abortion, you have to be against IVF which would be like the death camps for embryos" the assumption being that nobody would be against it. But here we are with the red state's biting the bullet.

Of course, Rufo is almost certainly in favour of banning contraception of all forms and getting back to trad life. The divergence from trad life has of course displeased Jesus.

Oh, and Jesus Christ, have you noticed how many of the old atheists who jumped the anti-woke train are now becoming religious? Ayaan Hirshi Ali, Micheal Shellenberger, Russell Brand (!), Jordan Hall (who? Never mind, he's pretty terrible). I know some podcasters have been betting that James Lindsay converts to Christianity soon. Probably any day soon.

Apart from Hall (who I don't know) I always got the whiff of performative atheism off them, as if they were burnishing their "I used be an atheist" credentials for a run as a future fundagelical preacher.