Do you really think that buildings haven't been hit by planes before?
no, No, NO,
NO. Bad truther. Stop trying to shift. I didn't say planes. Did I?
Since you are being uber specific about steel framed high rise buildings
completely collapsing. I am being uber specific to make sure you can see how they relate. After all we have seen that simple models which demonstrate specific properties of the collapse you don't understand.
So stop trying to shift it to "planes" now. Show me a single open floorplan, steel framed building which has been hit by a JET moving at 500 mph with no firefighting (you know something similar to the towers) and I'll show you another building which has collapsed.
so please show me one, and then I'll show you another steel framed high rise which has collapsed
completely due to fire.
You can't compare apples to oranges...
What does it matter anyway?
Shift, shift, shift noted. You are making a BS claim, and I am asking you to flesh it out and show me a comparable example. If you can't, then just admit that you cannot.
I cannot show you another high rise steel framed skyscraper which has collapsed, unless I show you a high rise steel framed skyscraper which has been hit by a jet at 500 mph, and burned for an hour unfought. Then I can show you 2.
What plane hit WTC7? This is what you can't get around.
truther strawman, and bs at that. I don't need to "get around it." No jet hit wtc7. It was struck by debris from the collaping towers, and the damage to the building was never fully documented.
Yet the collapse of the towers, started fires which burned unfought for 7 hours.
can you get around that?
After claiming for years how so unique it was what happened to two different towers on the same day, you then come back with a third collapse for a whole different reason.
Well gee... it would be mighty hard for anyone to claim the collapse of wtc7 was because a huge ****ing jet hit it at 500mph and it burned uncontrolled, huh?
But part of that is accurate... it was hit by something, and it burned uncontrolled for 7 hours... wowsers.
The meridian plaza fire was similar, with similar issues. The steel floor columns sagged up to 3 feet.. too bad it didn't burn as out of control or across as much of the building at one time.
Though I do wish there were better photographs of the damage.
Or we could look inside of wtc5 and 6 where there were partial collapses dueto the thermal expansion and the fires weakening the beams...
On the same day no less.
You're a skeptic?
Yup. I have been one my entire life. It has caused lots of problems.
I showed you that improbable events have happened in the past. That is the bitch about probability... sometimes weird **** happens.
Unlike you, I do real research. I know how, and I actually do research. Maybe it is because one of my masters degrees is in research methodology and information systems.
Lets see...
under 50 highly dedicated, college educated, focused individuals plan a daring attack which uses the policies and procedures against the enemy. The plan uses speed, cunning, luck and a good knowledge of the operational systems of the enemy. Using boxcutters, folding knvies, pepper spray and the arrogance of the enemy against them. 5 men per jet, cut up a few people, get them to open the door, and use the policy of the time (the pilot should do what the hijacker says in case there is a bomb) to slice the pilots throats and then fly the jets into 3 buildings and a field.
OR
a massive conspiracy involving up to thousands (tens of thousands depending on which twoof you ask) which is the rube goldberg machine of conspiracy theories, with no one ever speaking to their priest, confessing to the cops, getting arrested and bragging and no one ever coming forward.
There is one thing that twoofs in their ignorance and incredulity fail to realize. If this was a military operation (NSA, CIA, US military) it would be rejected ... numerous times. For all of the moving parts, all of the things which could go wrong. The military and intelligence agencies follow the KISS rule.
They could EASILY have pulled off a MUCH MORE horrific event, killing as many or more and gotten us directly into a war with whoever they wanted with under 100 people involved. But nooooooooo.
