Building 7 Exploding BEFORE WTC1 "Collapse"

[dafydd]

Bill- what kind of explosive was used to bring down WTC 7?

who installed it? when was it installed?

....no answer? I thought not.

9-11 Truthers are pseudo-skeptics....extraordinaire.

I'm sure that Bill will invent an answer.Dammit,I've fed the troll again.

 

[twinstead]

Bill is a good example of how good ones debate mojo can be when one simply makes things up as one goes along.

 

[fess]

Check this video at the 3:22 mark. You will see a large crack running down the right of the North face of WTC7. It's not difficult to picture the columns behind the outer wall collapsing simultaneously and the ones behind the crack being a tiny bit early or late and creating the crack/distortion.

Above all it makes it simple to see that the whole facade would have cracked and distorted had one of the corner columns been out of sequence by being either early or late..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY

As this video begins, the south side of the building, damaged by the collapse of the North Tower, has already started to collapse. As the collapse progresses, the collapsing south side of the building pulls the north side with it causing it to lean at a noticeable angle to the south. The building did not fall entirely in its own footprint.

 

[Scott Sommers]

This was shown on Italian Television in 2007 and titled 'Seven is Exploding'. Hear the witness at the end saying that the FDNY directly told her that 'they were going to have to bring the building down'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

You're right Bill. That damn FDNY. I always knew they were in on it. And the liars that they are, they keep denying it. Do you think we should be arresting them and trying to find out which ones knew? Maybe we could set up a special jail outside of US Constitutional protection where torture might be legal?

 

[bill smith]

You're right Bill. That damn FDNY. I always knew they were in on it. And the liars that they are, they keep denying it. Do you think we should be arresting them and trying to find out which ones knew? Maybe we could set up a special jail outside of US Constitutional protection where torture might be legal?

Yes Scott. it is terrible. Still,I suggest that you don't make the mistake of blaming the entire FDNY for involvement in 9/11. There is no evidence to believe that more than a small number of them were involved in 9/11.

I didn't know that torture might be legal outside America ? Legal under American Law you mean I suppose. I don't believe anybody else has legalised torture.

 

[carlitos]

Come on guys. Replying to jammonius is one thing, as he has a singular delusion. bill smith has all delusions, depending on context. Let it go.

 

[bill smith]

Come on guys. Replying to jammonius is one thing, as he has a singular delusion. bill smith has all delusions, depending on context. Let it go.

I suggest you raise your shields against me Carlitos. Hit that shields button marked 'ignore' or I will lay you down with a few Truth Phasers. lol

 

[Thunder]

I suggest you raise your shields against me Carlitos. Hit that shields button marked 'ignore' or I will lay you down with a few Truth Phasers. lol

is that a Truth-threat?

 

[Edx]

Yes Scott. it is terrible. Still,I suggest that you don't make the mistake of blaming the entire FDNY for involvement in 9/11. There is no evidence to believe that more than a small number of them were involved in 9/11.

And yet at the time dozens said that WTC7 was going to collapse and no one had a problem with it. And yet nearly ten years later and none of them have said they experienced anything strange with 7 either.

So I guess they are all on in it, right Bill? Why else are they lying?

 

[bill smith]

As this video begins, the south side of the building, damaged by the collapse of the North Tower, has already started to collapse. As the collapse progresses, the collapsing south side of the building pulls the north side with it causing it to lean at a noticeable angle to the south. The building did not fall entirely in its own footprint.

Anyone who is reading along should compare what this poster says and what NIST,who carried out the moost thorough investigation of WTC7 said.

This is what NIST called their 'take-away message' on WTC7.

'' 1.The reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery

2.WTC 7 collapsed because of fires, fueled by office furnishings

3.It did not collapse from explosives or from fuel oil fires"

It's amazing that these guys don't even have a clue about things like this.

 

[bill smith]

And yet at the time dozens said that WTC7 was going to collapse and no one had a problem with it. And yet nearly ten years later and none of them have said they experienced anything strange with 7 either.

So I guess they are all on in it, right Bill? Why else are they lying?

Yes but several of them said that the ' entire building was burning from floor to ceiling, all 47 floors ' We can prove this not to be true because there are no pictures or video of such a towering inferno. I think this is part of the reason that Scott is so suspicious of the FDNY. Personally I think it was just a few of them that were involved.

 

[Scott Sommers]

Yes but several of them said that the ' entire building was burning from floor to ceiling, all 47 floors ' We can prove this not to be true because there are no pictures or video of such a towering inferno. I think this is part of the reason that Scott is so suspicious of the FDNY. Personally I think it was just a few of them that were involved.

Yes, Bill. that's why I suggest you should advocate the arrest of the entire FDNY. We should start interogating them as soon as possible and, considering your charge, with the harshest methods possible. Let's stop using vague terms and be straight about what you're saying. No wonder there are firefighters who support 911 Truth. Or didn't you once tell there were lots of them. It's so hard to understand everything.

 

[carlitos]

Not that it makes a difference, but now that he's back, I'm setting to 'ignore' all of the posters that engage bill smith as well. No offense.

 

[bill smith]

Yes, Bill. that's why I suggest you should advocate the arrest of the entire FDNY. We should start interogating them as soon as possible and, considering your charge, with the harshest methods possible. Let's stop using vague terms and be straight about what you're saying. No wonder there are firefighters who support 911 Truth. Or didn't you once tell there were lots of them. It's so hard to understand everything.

You asked earlier whether the FDNY should be arrested lock stock and barrel and I think you were implying that torture might not be such a bad idea. But as you know, I have personally only ever believed that a small number of FDNY officers were complicit in 9/11 And I would NEVER condone torture and would recommmend that you put such thoughts aside yourself..

 

[bill smith]

Not that it makes a difference, but now that he's back, I'm setting to 'ignore' all of the posters that engage bill smith as well. No offense.

Well then I suppose it's bye bye Carlitos then. Stand Phasers down Mr. Spock.

 

[ImANiceGuy]

Bill - In a previous thread you promised the "grand unification theory" of 9/11 conspiracies.....can you share your secrets with me?

I'm a truther. I know Bush was in on it......they use goats in sacrificial satanic ceremonies; hence, "My Pet Goat".

 

[Gorgonian]

We can prove this not to be true because there are no pictures or video of such a towering inferno.

Aside from the obvious fallacy here (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence), this is just plain old untrue.

 

[Scott Sommers]

You asked earlier whether the FDNY should be arrested lock stock and barrel and I think you were implying that torture might not be such a bad idea. But as you know, I have personally only ever believed that a small number of FDNY officers were complicit in 9/11 And I would NEVER condone torture and would recommmend that you put such thoughts aside yourself..

But Bill, there are no firefighters who have ever stepped forward to talk about the evidence of arson or anything other than planes and fires. In fact, many firefighters are on record that this was not the case and even impossible. They are either complicit or incompetent. They would need to be examined to determine who is guilty ones and who is merely complicit in the conspiracy. We could set up Bill's Inquisition to handle this. Fund it with massive amounts of money, special prisons, the whole deal. It doesn't really matter what you think should be done, this clearly is the implication of what you're saying.

I advocate that you start petitioning in public about this. Get it on record that you want firefighters interogated about this. Go picket NY City Hall. Otherwise, you might get mistaken for another one of these keyboard commandos 911 Truth is so found of.

 

[Edx]

Yes but several of them said that the ' entire building was burning from floor to ceiling, all 47 floors ' We can prove this not to be true because there are no pictures or video of such a towering inferno. I think this is part of the reason that Scott is so suspicious of the FDNY. Personally I think it was just a few of them that were involved.

So why are ALL of them keeping quite about DA TRUTH Bill?

That means they are lying, right Bill? Covering up for mass murder? Why isn't the truth movement bullhorning the FDNY telling to tell the truth about Building 7?

 

[bill smith]

But Bill, there are no firefighters who have ever stepped forward to talk about the evidence of arson or anything other than planes and fires. In fact, many firefighters are on record that this was not the case and even impossible. They are either complicit or incompetent. They would need to be examined to determine who is guilty ones and who is merely complicit in the conspiracy. We could set up Bill's Inquisition to handle this. Fund it with massive amounts of money, special prisons, the whole deal. It doesn't really matter what you think should be done, this clearly is the implication of what you're saying.

I advocate that you start petitioning in public about this. Get it on record that you want firefighters interogated about this. Go picket NY City Hall. Otherwise, you might get mistaken for another one of these keyboard commandos 911 Truth is so found of.

Ah Scott you shouldn't blame the firefighters for not coming forward. Have a look at the attached video and then ask yourself why we have never seen these guys interviewed and probed on multiple TV shows ? As I know guys like these they are generally happy to be on TV, '' boom-booom-boom-boom-boom--like detonatotors like you wanted to bring down a building. 'We ran at least two blocks...'' Those guys could name their own price on TV to this day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ4dVo5QgYg Firemen's Testimony- Study

Now you are probably thinking that they and their families are being intimidated into silence to this day. Possibly because of their pensions being threatened or their fear for the lives of their family members. because it is clear from the video that this testimony should have been heard at the 9/11 commission hearings. As it was these firemen's statements were prohibited.