Avoiding Win 11 and staying with 10
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You may have some luck with Wine: https://www.winehq.org/ and depending on your exact goals you could run a Windows VM inside Linux.
Andy_Ross
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Can I use Linux with the Skyrim and Fallout Creation kits and the applications needed to make mods?
Blender, Nifskope, XEdit, Nif Converter? BSA Creator and other specialist u game edit utilities?
I haven't objection to Linux if I can just install and run all my utilities without ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ about.
As far as I can see Linux is a hobbyist operating system at home desktop level
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I've played around with Linux a few times, and I cut my IT support teeth supporting Xenix so its "complexity" doesn't scare me. But time and time again it just couldn't support my "workflow" (one of the new buzzwords I have found useful), so never made the move.
arthwollipot
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As I believe I've said before, I tried running a Linux desktop for a while (Ubuntu). It worked fine, until something went wrong and it stopped working and I had absolutely no clue how to fix it.
That brick still exists in my garage to this day.
Blue Mountain
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That's both a failure of Linux itself (it should be easier for non-experts to diagnose and correct a problem) and of the user. Of all the Linux variants out there, Ubuntu is the one with the most readily available information on the web. These days, a secondary computer with access to the web is a huge asset in getting a downed system going again.
I have much the same problem with Windows. Because I'm so inexperienced with it, I find troubleshooting difficult. Just now I've stumbled across a computer (an ancient Windows XP system that's isolated from the internet) where cmd.exe's command extensions stubbornly refuse to activate, so it acts like command.com. Totally broke a script I had written that took advantage of the things cmd.exe can do.
Arth, if you get ambitious one day and and want to try troubleshooting the borked Ubuntu system, I'd be interested in seeing what went wrong and if it's indeed fixable. (Until the next time it screws up!)
Blue Mountain
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As I said, a large number of people can't just install Linux and run it because they have a Windows program or two that simply doesn't have a Linux equivalent.
If by "Blender" you mean the complex but very capable video software, it runs natively on Linux.
Nifskope runs natively on Linux.
xEdit can run on Linux, but it needs some help.
There are Linux tools available for handling BSA archives, but they may work differently from BSA Creator.
So there is support out there for Bethesda games on Linux, but you need to be prepared to put some effort into finding and learning them, same as you initially did when learning them on Windows.
The nice thing is, after putting in the effort you no longer have to put up with Microsoft's ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ about with you (which ultimately is what this thread is about.)
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Mongrel
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You'll need to check what motherboard you have, there are two LGA 1151 variants and only one of them supports 8th & 9th gen processors
Blue Mountain
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I have the exact same problem with Windows: its available tools are so limited they simply can't support my workflows.
Andy_Ross
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I have neither the time or inclination to learn new software to do the job of the software I am using when it has taken me so long to be barely able to use the stuff I have in a productive way.
If Microsoft don't relax their rules for 11 or extend the support for 10 (they are already saying updates for security may still be available via their cloud accounts) What I will do is use my laptop for online stuff and just take the Windows 10 PC off the internet.
Oops. I don’t know how to check this, but I suppose that since my processor is a 7th generation processor, it uses an LGA 1151 v1 socket. And that means that my new plan has collapsed. Damn you Microsoft!
arthwollipot
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Mongrel
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I left it in the first link > https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/check-what-motherboard-you-have and just use the first option and, given the cost of a new PC it's probably worth the 5 minutes or so to double check.
Wudang
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I’d try to find a forum discussing the motherboard as some people have incredibly detailed knowledge. And on occasion when they actually understand your question you might understand their answer. (Tips hat to Yes Minister)
Wudang
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Wild guess. Check if cscript and wscript are in the PATH. Maybe compare %PATH% on that PC and a working one.
I was lucky in that I went with AMD for my last CPU choice which means I would have a wide choice of better CPUs because they supported the AM4 chipset of my motherboard for years, the most that would be needed would be a firmware upgrade (which I did anyway).
Wudang
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Upgrades and swapping software, people often underestimate the effort of swapping stuff you know how to do for stuff you’ve been told how to use. It removes your focus from the end goal to the tool.
Very much what I see with the youngsters today (30 and younger), lots of people think they know all about smart phones or tablets or computers because they use them so much. But they don't, what they know is how to use their apps. Hit them with something unexpected and their lack of fundamental understanding of how stuff works becomes very apparent, very quickly. I am thinking now that I was of a generation that will be looked back on as an aberration, because we knew how and why stuff worked as well as knowing how to use stuff.
bruto
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It's a vague memory now but I seem to recall there was a specific virus that attacked .exe files on Win XP. As I recall, it was possible to run many exe files by replacing the suffix with ".com."
I had a laptop running Win 10 which lost its hard drive dramatically, and I put in a different drive and reconfigured it to Ubuntu, which has worked pretty nicely as a backup for some time. I use it almost exclusively for streaming PBS passport to the TV now, but it's there for emergencies. Ubuntu can be booted from a removable drive, so I am wondering whether one solution to the messed up Ubuntu computer might be to get the OS on a disk and run it from that, at least enough to salvage files. You could then just scrub it and reinstall the whole thing.
I don't generally use Linux largely because I have some photo software that isn't happy there. I never could get Wine to work. Most of what I need actually works fine even on a 32 bit copy of Windows 7, which is what I run on my little traveling laptop. But unortunately, my wife just upgraded to a new Olympus, and almost nothing on 32 bit can read its raw files, including the Olympus program itself, and I'll probably have to hunt down another super small lightweight computer for travel, and unfortunately most of such things are now Chromebooks running the odious Android, and thus useless. I lament the passing of the little low powered Windows "netbook."
plague311
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I know new computers are kind of expensive, but reading this thread I think it's like people haven't had to replace aging hardware for other things before.
TPM 2.0 has been around for like...a decade. Sure it just became a hot button topic about 5ish years ago but most mobo/proc combos from the last 8ish years can be updated.
I don't know, maybe it's because I work in the IT\networking industry and I have to work on a handful of OS's between PCs, ESXi, switches, routers, etc. but I don't get the anger and hate of moving to a new OS. Windows 11 really isn't that bad. It's pretty much 10 but with a bit more security. Upgrading hardware is pretty common and buying a new PC\laptop every 5 years is probably just a good idea in general. Most people aren't rocking CRT monitors just because they still work. The tech is old, dated. You can get a new notebook, or even a half decent laptop for like $500. That's $100 a year to have a new, compatible device that, in today's age, handles the bulk of most people's lives. It just doesn't seem that much to me.
TPM 2.0 has been around for like...a decade. Sure it just became a hot button topic about 5ish years ago but most mobo/proc combos from the last 8ish years can be updated.
I don't know, maybe it's because I work in the IT\networking industry and I have to work on a handful of OS's between PCs, ESXi, switches, routers, etc. but I don't get the anger and hate of moving to a new OS. Windows 11 really isn't that bad. It's pretty much 10 but with a bit more security. Upgrading hardware is pretty common and buying a new PC\laptop every 5 years is probably just a good idea in general. Most people aren't rocking CRT monitors just because they still work. The tech is old, dated. You can get a new notebook, or even a half decent laptop for like $500. That's $100 a year to have a new, compatible device that, in today's age, handles the bulk of most people's lives. It just doesn't seem that much to me.