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psionl0 said:
ftfy.
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Yeah, it was about Pauline Hanson. So what? She's an awful, reprehensible excuse for a human being. She's the one that pulled the cheap stunt and she was censured and barred from the Senate for seven sitting days. Your irrelevant questions don't change that.

It's about the standards for behaviour for Australian Parliamentarians, several clauses of which she breached in this stunt. It's not about what clothing someone wears.
 
psionl0 said:
You denied it before and claimed it was about my questions being "wrong".
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I didn't deny it, I just said you're asking the wrong questions. The questions you should be asking are about parliamentary standards of behaviour, the documentation for which I just linked for you.
 
Dabop said:
Total BS...
Them (and the group they were part of) had been anti authority for a LONG time beforehand- and they still exist, and lately have been making a resurgence locally....

Sovereign Citizens (sovcits), antivaxers during Covid, they had PLENTY of runins with locals and the law in the area, and they and other members of their group had been banned from the local Facebook group after repeated threats against other posters and even admin, as well as plenty of locals wouldn't have anything to do with them...

And I don't know where the Coroner got this 'religious' crap from- they were LESS religious than many other locals!!!!- its a disease imho alright- religion rots your brain....

I'm wondering just where this Coroner got their info from- it sure as hell wasn't anything what is the reality.... (I know they didn't visit the area, thats for sure- in a town of 1500 people, we all hear EVERYTHING that happens....)

The Coroner also seems unaware that just a few weeks afterwards, another member of the groups kids took potshots at the cops AGAIN...
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Maybe the coroner's a sympathiser?
 
Orphia Nay said:
Calm down, you provoked my curiosity and I want to know more.
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I was just curious about what dress standards apply in the Senate and whether there are any exemptions. As awful a person as she is, her crime has to be more than just being Pauline Hanson for sanctions to be applied.
 
psionl0 said:
I was just curious about what dress standards apply in the Senate and whether there are any exemptions. As awful a person as she is, her crime has to be more than just being Pauline Hanson for sanctions to be applied.
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You're asking why wearing a burkha in the Senate as a stunt was bad?

For the record, I don't believe that there is a specific "dress code" (what an archaic concept that is) in the Senate or the House. However, the Parliamentary rules of conduct that I already posted maintain that Senators and Members should treat people with dignity and respect, recognise the diversity in the populations they represent, and refrain from behaviours that constitute harassment or discrimination. Pauline Hanson, by wearing a burkha in the Senate as a publicity stunt, disrespected both the Senate and the people of Australia that she purports to represent.

And the reason we're talking about Pauline Hanson isn't just that she's the one that did it, it's that she's the only one who might have thought it's a good idea.

psionl0 said:
#1801
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#1801 consisted of me disagreeing with you about the reason I said your questions were irrelevant, not about whether they were about Pauline Hanson.

You really have to dig deep to find things to disagree about, don't you?
 
Also, Hanson did not wear the burkha correctly. It should come to the floor and completely enclosed the wearer from head to toe. Hanson's garment was short, and she strutted about extensively exposing her legs, looking more like she was under a parasol. Her ridiculousness level could not have been higher.

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arthwollipot said:
You're asking why wearing a burkha in the Senate as a stunt was bad?
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This is not about whether wearing a burkha in the Senate was "bad" (it was definitely in bad taste). It's about whether the Senate rules specifically prohibit such stunts.

The rules you quoted are so vague that any politician making a politically incorrect statement or gesture could be deemed to be in violation of these rules and sanctioned. This is more likely to happen to an unpopular politician than a popular one of course.

Interpreting the rules in such a way as to selectively gag Senators runs counter to the idea of a Parliament in the first place.

But if you are fine with giving ON all of this extra free publicity . . . .

arthwollipot said:
#1801 consisted of me disagreeing with you about the reason I said your questions were irrelevant, not about whether they were about Pauline Hanson.
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You say that now . . . .
 
psionl0 said:
This is not about whether wearing a burkha in the Senate was "bad" (it was definitely in bad taste). It's about whether the Senate rules specifically prohibit such stunts.
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Well, I posted the rules, you can see for yourself.

psionl0 said:
You say that now . . . .
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I literally said that then too.
 
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