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Does 'rape culture' accurately describe (many) societies?

They don't appear to be under 18, Poem. The BBFC has rated and cleared similar material to be legally published on DVD in the UK.
 
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Lithrael said:
No, because I have not consumed any content any more suggestive than material that has been rated by the BBFC and legally published on DVD.

Bonnie Blue's classroom content looks exactly like content that has been rated by the BBFC and legally published on DVD. I even found commentary on cuts made to get legal ratings on such material. Sixth form classroom settings and school uniform costumes on 18+ performers pass muster with the BBFC.
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The BBFC would not pass Bonnie Blue's school classroom orgy - already established that.
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You've just completely ignored evidence that flatly contradicts the 'school uniform, classroom, young performers, illegal' idea, choosing instead to continue arguing as if it were true.
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Nobody who is consuming this stuff is going to put up there hand and say mea culpa.
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God, it's like talking to Vixen.
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Lithrael said:
They don't appear to be under 18, Poem. The BBFC has rated and cleared similar material to be legally published on DVD in the UK.
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We know there is an iceberg of content that features porn with actors that look underage - acbytesla has told us that. Apparently, the Bonnie Blue stunt is but the tip of it. Barnardo's and children's charities have been saying this for years.
 
Poem said:
Your reply to:

And @theprestige - you thumbed Helen's response - I'll ask you both:

Are you denying that the UK has made such porn (actors that appear to be under 18) illegal? See #4.289 - the relevant section being:

(5)“Child”, subject to subsection (6), means a person under the age of 18.
(6)Where an image shows a person the image is to be treated as an image of a child if—
(a)the impression conveyed by the image is that the person shown is a child, or
(b)the predominant impression conveyed is that the person shown is a child despite the fact that some of the physical characteristics shown are not those of a child.

Again, under UK law, consumers of this material are deemed sex offenders.
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No, they're not. And the proof is no one is being arrested. It's available both online and on DVD. So good luck with that Don.
 
Do you have an argument for why the evidence against your point (BBFC rated, classroom setting, young performer, school uniform DVDs legal to publish in the UK) doesn't count?
 
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I'm not denying anything, i'm not that familiar with UK law. What i've seen in this thread does not support your claims, however.

You have not shown us any girls that look underage. I haven't seen anyone in this thread trying to defend that kind of porn, only people reiterating that barely legal means legal, which it does, and that the girls you obsess about do not look underage, which they don't.
 
Helen said:
I'm not denying anything, i'm not that familiar with UK law. What i've seen in this thread does not support your claims, however.

You have not shown us any girls that look underage. I haven't seen anyone in this thread trying to defend that kind of porn, only people reiterating that barely legal means legal, which it does, and that the girls you obsess about do not look underage, which they don't.
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I asked you to comment on the UK law. I cited the relevant section regarding images that look underage (even if not).

Like the rest here, you swerved answering.
 
Poem said:
I asked you to comment on the UK law. I cited the relevant section regarding images that look underage (even if not).

Like the rest here, you swerved answering.
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You are so funny. But let's humor you so you too can get a chuckle. Let's say you're right. The law says what you say it does.

Is it being enforced? Or is everyone yawning? Or maybe laughing? Is it a paper law?
 
acbytesla said:
You are so funny. But let's humor you so you too can get a chuckle. Let's say you're right. The law says what you say it does.

Is it being enforced? Or is everyone yawning? Or maybe laughing? Is it a paper law?
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Show such content in a UK cinema and nobody will feel the force of the law you mean? You continue to trivialise content that proves the OP.
 
Lithrael said:
Do you have an argument for why the evidence against your point (BBFC rated, classroom setting, young performer, school uniform DVDs legal to publish in the UK) doesn't count?
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I'll put this to the BBFC. Which DVD are we cf. with the Bonnie Blue?
 
Poem said:
Show such content in a UK cinema and nobody will feel the force of the law you mean? You continue to trivialise content that proves the OP.
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I'm saying your remarks are nonsense. I'm saying even if you're right about the letter of the law, either no one with authority, sees the content as breaking the law or they don't care. Either way you're tilting at windmills. And oh BTW, I'm a Yank. We too have lots of paper laws. Likelaws against interracial marriage, or the Man Act, or anti-sodomy laws.
 
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acbytesla said:
I'm saying your remarks are nonsense. I'm saying even if you're right about the letter of the law, either no one with authority, sees the content as breaking the law or they don't care. Either way you're tilting at windmills. And oh BTW, I'm a Yank. We too have lots of paper laws. Likelaws against interracial marriage, or the Man Act, or anti-sodomy laws.
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Except the law I cited is in effect - the BBFC does withhold certificates for such content on DVD and Blue ray and ban cinemas from showing it. When they are let loose on the internet they will do the same and millions of videos will be removed.

Just know and remember one thing - the UK puts perpetrators of actions you refuse to condemn (actions you have bragged about) in prison and on the sex offenders register.

You were wrong about the criminality of showing porn to kids and you are wrong about this.
 
And nobody here is guaranteeing that all barely legal type content watched on the likes of Pornhub et al is legal. No one.
 
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I can only assume that Young Harlots Classroom Special does not show intention to mimic a child.
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I will remind the thread that this was the response last time I tried to show, via a legal UK DVD, that 'classroom setting, school uniform, young performers' passes muster with the BBFC.

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IMO, nobody in Bonnie Blue's video looks noticably younger than the young lady at the lower right here.

Can I not assume that Bonnie Blue's classroom orgy does not show intention to mimic a child?
 
Poem said:
Your reply to:

And @theprestige - you thumbed Helen's response - I'll ask you both:

Are you denying that the UK has made such porn (actors that appear to be under 18) illegal? See #4.289 - the relevant section being:

(5)“Child”, subject to subsection (6), means a person under the age of 18.
(6)Where an image shows a person the image is to be treated as an image of a child if—
(a)the impression conveyed by the image is that the person shown is a child, or
(b)the predominant impression conveyed is that the person shown is a child despite the fact that some of the physical characteristics shown are not those of a child.

Again, under UK law, consumers of this material are deemed sex offenders.
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I am not denying that porn that appears to be underage is illegal in the UK

I am denying that you have a good grasp of what does and doesn't appear to be underage, both in common usage and in UK law.
 
Poem said:
Except the law I cited is in effect - the BBFC does withhold certificates for such content on DVD and Blue ray and ban cinemas from showing it. When they are let loose on the internet they will do the same and millions of videos will be removed.

Just know and remember one thing - the UK puts perpetrators of actions you refuse to condemn (actions you have bragged about) in prison and on the sex offenders register.

You were wrong about the criminality of showing porn to kids and you are wrong about this.
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No, not really. All the porn you're complaining about is readily available in the UK. As I said multiple times, wake me when they start jailing people and removing the porn from the Internet. Tell us when you take down that windmill.
 
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