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arthwollipot said:
Oh come on. When was the last time you saw a non-Australian post in this thread?

Hey, non-Australians! Can you post a "Hi!" if you're reading?

Well duh. Also, way to miss the point.
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I\m sure there's a Kiwi posts here now and then, and we're not a state of Australia.

Yet.
 
arthwollipot said:
Words cannot express how much I don't care about Albo's wedding.
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You should definitely care more about it.

It might be they have a deep-seated need to have the piece of paper, or it could be Albo sees it as an opportunity to play the "I'm making an honest woman of her" card and skim off a few more old LNP farts.

It also highlights him punching up pretty hard - she's a good-looking woman, and aside from the PM mantle, he's no catch.

She seems like a most excellent woman from all angles, be happy for them.
 
arthwollipot said:
Oh come on. When was the last time you saw a non-Australian post in this thread?

Hey, non-Australians! Can you post a "Hi!" if you're reading?
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Stop this pathic :dig: !

I only suggested that you should have included the colour key in your screenshot. You don't have to get so butt-hurt over it.

arthwollipot said:
Well duh. Also, way to miss the point.
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You don't think that the fact that Teal independents won 10 seats (the Greens only 1 and One Nation 0) is a point worth making?
 
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The Atheist said:
I\m sure there's a Kiwi posts here now and then, and we're not a state of Australia.

Yet.
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Were you in any confusion over what the colours on the graph represented?

psionl0 said:
You don't think that the fact that Teal independents won 10 seats (the Greens only 1 and One Nation 0) is a point worth making?
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In a graph that measured the relative popularity of the largest four political parties? No. "Teal" is not a political party.
 
The Liberals in NSW and Victoria say they want to appeal to voters in the outer suburbs and regions. That must be why they have elected Kelly Sloane (Vaucluse) and Jess Wilson (Kew) as their new leaders. Representing two of the wealthiest areas in Australia is certainly good training for talking to people in low-income seats. The federal Liberals didn't have that option, since they have lost all their wealthiest seats to the Teals, so they did the next best thing and elected Sussan Ley, who sits for a remote rural area (Farrer). All three are examples of a new rule in Australian politics: when you're in trouble, elect a woman as leader. Joan Kirner, Carmen Lawrence, Kristina Kenneally, Lara Giddings and Julia Gillard can tell Sloane and Wilson how that story ends.
 
NatalieSalat said:
The Liberals in NSW and Victoria say they want to appeal to voters in the outer suburbs and regions. That must be why they have elected Kelly Sloane (Vaucluse) and Jess Wilson (Kew) as their new leaders. Representing two of the wealthiest areas in Australia is certainly good training for talking to people in low-income seats. The federal Liberals didn't have that option, since they have lost all their wealthiest seats to the Teals, so they did the next best thing and elected Sussan Ley, who sits for a remote rural area (Farrer). All three are examples of a new rule in Australian politics: when you're in trouble, elect a woman as leader. Joan Kirner, Carmen Lawrence, Kristina Kenneally, Lara Giddings and Julia Gillard can tell Sloane and Wilson how that story ends.
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Indeed. In Victoria I just can’t see the Libs getting anywhere near power. Their remaining members are devoid of talent. Groth is deputy and his only claim to fame is he was a mediocre tennis player with a big serve. He also represents the ultra white Peninsula…..
 
NatalieSalat said:
All three are examples of a new rule in Australian politics: when you're in trouble, elect a woman as leader. Joan Kirner, Carmen Lawrence, Kristina Kenneally, Lara Giddings and Julia Gillard can tell Sloane and Wilson how that story ends.
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I'm not sure that women get elected as leaders when a party is in trouble but even some of the elected leaders of a loser party are women, I think it is more of a coincidence than anything else.

Leading a party to an electoral loss is usually a death knell for the party leader (especially if the party's vote decreases a lot) so nobody who aspires to a career in the top job will touch the leader's position until the party looks like improving its vote. That only leaves second rate members to put up their hands (and take the fall).

The women you mentioned were not in that position. They actually won their elections but politics was their eventual demise. When a party is riding high, the wolves are always sniffing around the leader.
 
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Dabop said:
Sadly there's a vocal group carrying on that 'it would be a bad look to dump the Libs first woman leader'- well it would be- if she wasnt a total F.W........

As it turns out- being a woman doesn't mean she had any brains....
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Kemi Badenoch....
 
lionking said:
The Queensland coroner has just made a stupid decision. He has declared that the weiambilla police killings were not a terrorist attack because the killers were motivated by delusional religious beliefs.

How would you describe jihadist attacks?

Coroners are usually the voice of reason here. Not this idiot.

www.sbs.com.au

Wieambilla police shootings 'not a terrorist act', Queensland coroner says

An inquest last year heard expert evidence that the Trains engaged in terrorism that was religiously motivated.
www.sbs.com.au www.sbs.com.au
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He complied with the law. Change the law.
 
NatalieSalat said:
When did Joan Kirner or Carmen Lawrence win an election?
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My bad. My memory of their histories failed me. They are both people who took over the Premiership in their respective states when Labor was in the doldrums. The were basically the fall guys for the subsequent state elections.

Although Kirner retired soon afterwards, Carmen Lawrence moved to Federal Parliament where she might have still had an impressive career. However, she had kicked an own goal while state Premier. It gave succeeding state Premier Richard Court the opportunity to destroy her (a Royal Commission ultimately branded her a liar).
 
NatalieSalat said:
Giddings was Tasmanian Labor's similar "fall girl".
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Like I said before, it's not necessarily women who are set up like this. For example, Zak Kirkup (a young politician with no experience) was appointed to lead the WA libs to a record defeat in the 2021 state election (so much for his political career).

OTOH the parties appear to believe that the optics look good if they appoint women like this. They get to say "See? We are an inclusive party after all".
 
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To me, socialism and pacifism are the far left's version of their direct counterparts on the far right who believe in lizard aliens in human suits and that mobile phone signals beam messages into their heads. Fortunately, Corbyn crashed and burned against the first viable Tory opponent and Warren and Sanders got nowhere in their primaries. And Lee Brown ("Rhiannon") and her parents should have ended up in Long Bay or doing the long drop. Giving aid and comfort to known and declared enemies of their country is objectively treason, not dissent.
 
NatalieSalat said:
To me, socialism and pacifism are the far left's version of their direct counterparts on the far right who believe in lizard aliens in human suits and that mobile phone signals beam messages into their heads. Fortunately, Corbyn crashed and burned against the first viable Tory opponent and Warren and Sanders got nowhere in their primaries. And Lee Brown ("Rhiannon") and her parents should have ended up in Long Bay or doing the long drop. Giving aid and comfort to known and declared enemies of their country is objectively treason, not dissent.
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Is this supposed to mean something?
 
NatalieSalat said:
To me, socialism and pacifism are the far left's version of their direct counterparts on the far right who believe in lizard aliens in human suits and that mobile phone signals beam messages into their heads. Fortunately, Corbyn crashed and burned against the first viable Tory opponent and Warren and Sanders got nowhere in their primaries. And Lee Brown ("Rhiannon") and her parents should have ended up in Long Bay or doing the long drop. Giving aid and comfort to known and declared enemies of their country is objectively treason, not dissent.
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Wrong thread?
 
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