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Split Thread Conspiracy theories around the Russian invasion of Ukraine

junkshop said:
All joking aside @Clutch Cargo, what are you trying to acheive here?
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I'm not trying to achieve anything. I am simply helping to share diverse perspectives. Some people agree with me and others do not. That's fair. No problem. No problem for me anyway.
junkshop said:
No-one is buying your ridiculous 'Russia didn't invade Ukraine' ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊.
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Russia did not invade Ukraine ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. I do commend you for resisting calling it "a full scale invasion".
junkshop said:
You're a good three years (and all the facts) late if you were going to try to frame it as a proactive defensive move by poor picked-upon Russia.
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As with all military conflicts, each goal might need strategic changes during the course of the confrontation. They may end up being permanent or only temporary (as was intended). If someone continuously punches you you will eventually punch back. Right?
 
Clutch Cargo said:
Are you saying that I do understand Polish?
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We're saying that the posts you have been referring to are in Russian, not in Polish. Post #71 is the first time Polish was used in this thread. The post used the Cyrillic script, which Polish does not. It makes the two languages rather easy to distinguish if, like me, you don't speak either of them.
 
Clutch Cargo said:
I'm not trying to achieve anything. I am simply helping to share diverse perspectives. Some people agree with me and others do not. That's fair. No problem. No problem for me anyway.

Russia did not invade Ukraine ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. I do commend you for resisting calling it "a full scale invasion".

As with all military conflicts, each goal might need strategic changes during the course of the confrontation. They may end up being permanent or only temporary (as was intended). If someone continuously punches you you will eventually punch back. Right?
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But your perspective isn't diverse. It's a re run of a Moscow propaganda perspective we've all seen more than once.

What's your explanation for why Moscow has gotten 900,000 Russian citizens wounded or killed on the other side of a border that isn't theirs to cross?
 
theprestige said:
But your perspective isn't diverse.
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Well, I've been reading the contributions to this forum and honestly, really, truly my perspective does appear to be diverse.
theprestige said:
It's a re run of a Moscow propaganda perspective we've all seen more than once.
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I cannot possibly comment on that at all. Moscow media sources are completely censored here. So if my perspective is similar to that of Moscow's then it must be a miracle. How do you know so much about Moscow's perspective? If you have a link to their sources I'd be obliged if you could share it with me. I'd love to see what they have to say.
theprestige said:
What's your explanation for why Moscow has gotten 900,000 Russian citizens wounded or killed on the other side of a border that isn't theirs to cross?
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Please send me a link to those Moscow media sources and I'll take a look at it. I can't promise I'll find "an explanation" but maybe I can at least form an opinion and then we can discuss it.
 

"Conspiracy theories around the Russian invasion of Ukraine"​


I suppose the very first conspiracy is that of calling the special military operation of Russia in Ukraine "AN INVASION". Worse is the habit of calling it “A FULL SCALE INVASION”. I mean, that is really an assault on the English language.
 
Clutch Cargo said:

"Conspiracy theories around the Russian invasion of Ukraine"​


I suppose the very first conspiracy is that of calling the special military operation of Russia in Ukraine "AN INVASION". Worse is the habit of calling it “A FULL SCALE INVASION”. I mean, that is really an assault on the English language.
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What languages do you speak and read?
 
junkshop said:
No-one is buying your ridiculous 'Russia didn't invade Ukraine' ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. You're a good three years (and all the facts) late if you were going to try to frame it as a proactive defensive move by poor picked-upon Russia.
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Three years ago, nobody would have denied that Russia invaded Ukraine, but those who want to change history hope that after three years, people’s memory is already slipping so much that they could believe that it was Ukraine that invaded, and Russia just reacted. Kind of like how Nazis claim that that the concentration camps were just holiday camps for Jews, where they were kept for their own safety.
Clutch Cargo said:
Worse is the habit of calling it “A FULL SCALE INVASION”.
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If this wasn’t a full-scale invasion, I wonder what a full-scale invasion would have looked like. Putin threw everything he had at Ukraine, invading on all fronts, even from Belorussia, and sent special forces to kill Zelensky – and failed in the attempt to grab the entire country.
 
Clutch Cargo said:

"Conspiracy theories around the Russian invasion of Ukraine"​


Worse is the habit of calling it “A FULL SCALE INVASION”. I mean, that is really an assault on the English language.
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steenkh said:
If this wasn’t a full-scale invasion, I wonder what a full-scale invasion would have looked like. Putin threw everything he had at Ukraine,.....
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Did he? :newlol :pooky:
 
Clutch Cargo said:

"Conspiracy theories around the Russian invasion of Ukraine"​


I suppose the very first conspiracy is that of calling the special military operation of Russia in Ukraine "AN INVASION". Worse is the habit of calling it “A FULL SCALE INVASION”. I mean, that is really an assault on the English language.
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How many thousands of tanks makes an invasion, in your estimate?
 
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