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Windows Infinity

I'm not hearing good things about Windows 8 on a PC. Do you think they might support 7 for PCs and 8 for foofy touchy devices?

~~ Paul
 
maggot9779 said:
I installed it a while ago and I wasn't impressed. The Metro UI is awkward to use on a desktop and the main OS is almost exactly the same as W7 (which i'm not a huge fan of) except they completely screwed up the Start button, I actually had to use Google to work out how to shut the damn thing down.

Whether or not they have changed those for this release i'm not sure, and I can't be bothered to install it again to find out.
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They removed the start button they had in the developer preview, and made a thumbnail of the metro interface appear if you move the cursor to the bottom left corner, which you click on to see the metro interface.

So it's not visible unless the cursor is over it.

It's a far inferior interface to Gnome Shell, which also has window switching and application opening options after moving the cursor to a specific corner, instead of upon pressing a button. Gnome did it a lot better.
 
I wonder if the title of this thread should be changed to something with the words "Windows 8 Consumer Preview" in it, because "Windows Infinity" doesn't exactly reflect what the thread is about. Especially since it merged with the other on one this topic.
 
I'm relieved that Fluxbox is my WM of choice. I can upgrade my OS as often as I like and never have to learn a new way of doing exactly what I am doing now.
 
After some playing around with it it seems a long way from being finished, nothing like as polished or functionally complete as past previews for the likes of Vista and 7. With both Vista and 7 by the time we were at public betas/previews you pretty much could use both on a production PC setup. If this is 98% of what is meant to ship (functionality wise) then MS are about to have their biggest ever flop on the desktop.
 
The problem is that MS is building this metro style as their new look. It's being unified across all MS devices (Xbox, Win8 pcs/tablets, and Windows Phone). If you don't like it you're out of luck. Better stick with Win7. Going forward we'll have many iterations of crayola windows to look forward to.
 
Personally I'm going to use it as an excuse to by a touch screen monitor. I was pleasantly surprised when I checked out the prices.
 
Hey, I've been testing out Windows 8 just the past few days (for my job). I agree with a lot of the sentiments here. It's definitely going to be a higher learning curve to migrate over to it than it was for previous versions. I foresee a lot of our staff people here are going to hate it too, but it will be at least a year or more after it's official release before I'll even consider putting it on a computer, and only under duress!

It's designed for the iPad/SmartPhone people in mind, and to integrate with those devices (which I don't use any of). Hiding the menus until you move the cursor to the various corners isn't so hot either, and I see people are already creating apps to bring back the lost buttons - LOL
 
Wowbagger said:
You'd think the brain-bank at Microsoft would be smarter than this.
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Why would I think that? After years of them making new software harder to use than earlier iterations, it's what I expect.

Honestly, I don't think they don't get it wrong all of the time. Win XP did some things right, and Win 7 has fixed a few things that have been wrong for years. But that whole restructuring of the menus that made Office so much harder to use is embarassing.

I just don't rate MS as good interface designers.
 
Moon-Spinner said:
Hey, I've been testing out Windows 8 just the past few days (for my job). I agree with a lot of the sentiments here. It's definitely going to be a higher learning curve to migrate over to it than it was for previous versions. I foresee a lot of our staff people here are going to hate it too, but it will be at least a year or more after it's official release before I'll even consider putting it on a computer, and only under duress!
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People have been complaining about the next release of Windows since NT. There's always this little burst of outrage, and then everybody upgrades, because they have no choice. Let's face it.

It's designed for the iPad/SmartPhone people in mind, and to integrate with those devices (which I don't use any of). Hiding the menus until you move the cursor to the various corners isn't so hot either, and I see people are already creating apps to bring back the lost buttons - LOL
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This is the same mistake that Microsoft made with Windows CE and Windows Mobile—having a one-size fits all solution—only from the other way around. It hurt them in the mobile market, but they already have the desktop market sewn up. As someone on another forum said more than a decade ago, every copy of Windows could come with a little troll that went around raping your coworkers, and everyone would still think it's an A OK business decision.
 
epepke said:
People have been complaining about the next release of Windows since NT. There's always this little burst of outrage, and then everybody upgrades, because they have no choice. Let's face it.
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Not so. How many people installed Vista? I still use XP at work and like many corporates we're skipping Vista and straight to win 7 RSN. If reports I hear are true we probably won't go to 8 as the training curve would be a major hit.
 
epepke said:
People have been complaining about the next release of Windows since NT. There's always this little burst of outrage, and then everybody upgrades, because they have no choice. Let's face it.
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Lots of people are sticking with XP, which is from 2001. It's ten and a half years old! I am writing this from Windows Server 2003, for some reason.
 
Almo said:
Why would I think that? After years of them making new software harder to use than earlier iterations, it's what I expect.

Honestly, I don't think they don't get it wrong all of the time. Win XP did some things right, and Win 7 has fixed a few things that have been wrong for years. But that whole restructuring of the menus that made Office so much harder to use is embarassing.

I just don't rate MS as good interface designers.
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I personally found Windows Phone 7 to be incredibly intuitive and well-designed. You virtually never have to refer to a user manual because everything works exactly the way you naturally guess it might work. I will be very disappointed if 8 is a step back.
 
Alan said:
Lots of people are sticking with XP, which is from 2001. It's ten and a half years old! I am writing this from Windows Server 2003, for some reason.
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I visited a company recently that was still using Windows 95!
 
oh yes, one more thing, I'm discovering that using shortcut keys is easier than using the mouse to navigate to where you want to go. I'm compiling a list of shortcuts already...
 
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