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Windows 11

They did say that 10 was going to be the last one and would just be updated, that was why they did the how free for a year update from 7 and 8 to 10 thing.
 
Watching the presentation now (or, at least, an edited-down version), and I have a few thoughts.

First, the execs/presenters feel a lot more downbeat than the Apple people and, as such, seem more human. Still uber-corporate, but more human.

It made me laugh when the first guy said that the start button is now centred because it's closer to you. First off, if you're using a touchscreen, then you'll be sitting in a way where you can touch the whole screen so that makes no difference. And, secondly, if that were true then it'd be in the actual centre, rather than being the leftmost app in a centred list of apps which will be a different size depending on how many apps are in it. I expect that most people will do what there is the option to do - left-justify it again. It's what people are used to after decades of consistent design, and at least then the button will always be in the same place.

I also expect people will do what they did for the menu from Windows 8 onwards - use a third party utility to restore the old start menu, which is still the superior design. I'd also have thought that people who don't use all their connected devices exclusively for work will want to turn off the "have all my most recently-opened files on my start menu alongside a thumbnail" feature.

WRT split screen, when they first announced in for Windows 8 I couldn't see the point. All these years later I still can't. I'm sure there are some people who use it in some ways, but I've never had a situation where it would ever have come in handy.

WRT Widgets, that's another thing that I've not really understood. I barely ever see my desktop. I don't understand what advantage I'd gain from having things taking up space on it. And now it seems like they're going to be a floating sheet that...recommends articles to you for when you want to take a break from working?

The tablet stuff isn't relevant to me, but it seems like much of it is catching up to Apple, which is kind of ironic as most of Apple's big announcements seem to be them catching up to Android.

The gaming stuff seems interesting, but I have no idea if I have the hardware for any of it to affect me. I've got a desktop that had really good specs when it was new, but that's several years ago now, and computers age quickly.

Microsoft store...who cares? I've not visited it once. I don't care about Android apps, either.

I suppose the biggest takeaway is that I can understand why they thought this was big enough change to bust out a new version number, but at the same time there's not actually all that much that has changed. Which is really what you want from an update to an OS, I suppose.
 
I just hope they make it smaller, including Windows updates in smaller, discrete lumps. Win10 is so full of bloatware and inefficient code that it no longer fits on my 30GB travel laptop leaving enough space to allow updates. And the "disk" is soldered to the mobo, so I can't upgrade it.
 
It made me laugh when the first guy said that the start button is now centred because it's closer to you. First off, if you're using a touchscreen, then you'll be sitting in a way where you can touch the whole screen so that makes no difference. And, secondly, if that were true then it'd be in the actual centre, rather than being the leftmost app in a centred list of apps which will be a different size depending on how many apps are in it. I expect that most people will do what there is the option to do - left-justify it again. It's what people are used to after decades of consistent design, and at least then the button will always be in the same place.
The takeaway I'm getting from this is that they're making the Start menu and Taskbar look and act more like the MacOS Dock.
 
Yeah, that's gonna be handy. :rolleyes:
Well, you know. I've used both Mac and Windows machines for years, so I'm okay either way. As long as the OS actually works reliably, I don't really care about the cosmetic arrangement of controls.

My octogenarian dad is going to have some issues, though.
 
I just hope they make it smaller, including Windows updates in smaller, discrete lumps. Win10 is so full of bloatware and inefficient code that it no longer fits on my 30GB travel laptop leaving enough space to allow updates. And the "disk" is soldered to the mobo, so I can't upgrade it.

I would expect the opposite given that a) it's Microsoft, and the trend has been towards more bloat for years, b) there's a tool Windows 10 users can download to see if their machines can run 11, and c) they've said that "most" Windows 10 machines should be able to run it.
 
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I think my biggest gripe with this is that you need a Microsoft account to download and install it. I've gone all these years without a Microsoft account, and it would seem like a shame to capitulate now.
 
I think my biggest gripe with this is that you need a Microsoft account to download and install it. I've gone all these years without a Microsoft account, and it would seem like a shame to capitulate now.

:( And will you have to log in to that account rather than one on the machine?
 
I would expect the opposite given that a) it's Microsoft, and the trend has been towards more bloat for years, b) there's a tool Windows 10 users can download to see if their machines can run 11, and c) they've said that "most" Windows 10 machines should be able to run it.

Nope the trend has been away from that, and it continues in 11. For example the following is not installed in a fresh install:

3D Viewer
OneNote for Windows 10
Paint 3D
Skype
 
The rules for new versions seem to be

1. Anything that doesn't need to be changed? Change it!
2. Anything that desperately needs to be changed? Find out what's wrong with it and make it worse.
3. Respond to all complaints "it'll be fixed in the next version."
 

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