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Windows 10

I only have a W7 upgrade license (this hard drive used to contain XP), so my current upgrade procedure is:

1) Backup EVERYTHING
2) Wipe enough stuff that the rest will fit on the SSD
3) Clone HDD to SSD
4) Boot from SSD (unplugging the HDD to reduce interference)
5) Run W10 upgrade including activation and create boot media
6) Run fresh install from the new boot media.
7) Reinstall the necessary stuff

Simples!

The benefit of this arcane incantation is that if things screw up spectacularly I can roll back to the old W7 install. That would be a worst-case scenario as I really want to switch over to the SSD.
 
ComfySlippers said:
I doubt Toshiba would have the first idea what your product key is.

If it's a genuine Toshiba laptop that came with OEM Windows installed it's on a sticker on the bottom.
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It is genuine, bought from Toshiba direct. There is a sticker but it only has Product Number and Serial Number, neither of which are the Product Key. I found I also have the original box which does not have Product Key on the sticker.

I tried the Media Creation tool directly (several times). All I get is an error message box saying "We don't know what happened, but there's an error." and an error code. I have not looked that up yet as I have been trying the other options. Creating the media installation on another computer works fine, but when I try to install on the Toshiba, it asks for the Product Key.

I have the feeling this one will just be relegated to being an extra storage drive.

And I just bought a Mac. :p
 
alfaniner said:
It is genuine, bought from Toshiba direct. There is a sticker but it only has Product Number and Serial Number, neither of which are the Product Key. I found I also have the original box which does not have Product Key on the sticker.



I tried the Media Creation tool directly (several times). All I get is an error message box saying "We don't know what happened, but there's an error." and an error code. I have not looked that up yet as I have been trying the other options. Creating the media installation on another computer works fine, but when I try to install on the Toshiba, it asks for the Product Key.



I have the feeling this one will just be relegated to being an extra storage drive.



And I just bought a Mac. :p
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Ok. cursory research indicates that MS has not explained things to people who need you use "for dummies" books,
I'm not prepared to offer advice as this is a case of user error.
I'll now admit that MS has not explained a simplle process.

Enjoy your Mac.
Just to pisss you off I dual boot between W10 and ElCaptian on my Mac.
No problems ever.
 
alfaniner said:
It is genuine, bought from Toshiba direct. There is a sticker but it only has Product Number and Serial Number, neither of which are the Product Key. I found I also have the original box which does not have Product Key on the sticker.

I tried the Media Creation tool directly (several times). All I get is an error message box saying "We don't know what happened, but there's an error." and an error code. I have not looked that up yet as I have been trying the other options. Creating the media installation on another computer works fine, but when I try to install on the Toshiba, it asks for the Product Key.

I have the feeling this one will just be relegated to being an extra storage drive.

And I just bought a Mac. :p
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Could try this program: https://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/
 
alfaniner said:
Is this still being rolled out? I'm still waiting...

It came in fine for my two Windows 7 computers but I only have the "Reserved" notice on my newer Windows 8. I tried doing the self-download and using the media creation tool. It wants my Product Key which I never got with the thing (Toshiba Satellite S-70). The Product Key extract script got one from the registry that looks viable, but the Setup doesn't accept it.

???
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You are supposed to select "Skip" when it asks for the product key when doing a free upgrade. The key is stored on an MS server. Two machines (out of four) that I upgraded needed the registry edit in the link below to get Win 10 to install.

http://imgur.com/iuD5pan
 
alfaniner said:
It is genuine, bought from Toshiba direct. There is a sticker but it only has Product Number and Serial Number, neither of which are the Product Key. I found I also have the original box which does not have Product Key on the sticker.

I tried the Media Creation tool directly (several times). All I get is an error message box saying "We don't know what happened, but there's an error." and an error code. I have not looked that up yet as I have been trying the other options. Creating the media installation on another computer works fine, but when I try to install on the Toshiba, it asks for the Product Key.

I have the feeling this one will just be relegated to being an extra storage drive.

And I just bought a Mac. :p
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You might be able to find it in your system information on the control panel. You don't need to know it though, Windows 10 will install and run fine without it as long as your copy is genuine, which it sounds like it is.
 
surrogate said:
You are supposed to select "Skip" when it asks for the product key when doing a free upgrade. The key is stored on an MS server. Two machines (out of four) that I upgraded needed the registry edit in the link below to get Win 10 to install.



http://imgur.com/iuD5pan
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This.

Also, as obvious as as this is, you have to remove the hat of paranoia and be connected to to the evil intertubes for your Windows to activate.
 
Damien Evans said:
You might be able to find it in your system information on the control panel. You don't need to know it though, Windows 10 will install and run fine without it as long as your copy is genuine, which it sounds like it is.
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And again, this.

I apologise to the slow learners but it would seem that because the process is so blindfoldingly easy Microsoft didn't deem it necessary to write instructions in large print.
 
ComfySlippers said:
Ok. cursory research indicates that MS has not explained things to people who need you use "for dummies" books,
I'm not prepared to offer advice as this is a case of user error.
I'll now admit that MS has not explained a simplle process.

Enjoy your Mac.
Just to pisss you off I dual boot between W10 and ElCaptian on my Mac.
No problems ever.
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I've re-installed Windows XP four times on an earlier computer, including chipsets and drivers, so I can follow proper directions.

If it doesn't work by following the instructions exactly, several times, and also doing the alternative methods, the problem is not with me.
 
Enough with the bickering; please keep it civil, on topic and address the topic. Your cooperation will be greatly appreciated.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Locknar
 
Has anyone else noticed that MS has changed their advertising? Not long ago it was babies who were going to grow up using Win10, apparently because they were never going to do another upgrade. Now it's six-year-olds who are going to change the world.

Perhaps that explains the previous ads -- those babies are growing up VERY fast!
 
Trebuchet said:
Has anyone else noticed that MS has changed their advertising? Not long ago it was babies who were going to grow up using Win10, apparently because they were never going to do another upgrade. Now it's six-year-olds who are going to change the world.

Perhaps that explains the previous ads -- those babies are growing up VERY fast!
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The ads were scripted by the guy who wrote the windows file copy dialog. The next ad has them as fetuses.
 
alfaniner said:
I've re-installed Windows XP four times on an earlier computer, including chipsets and drivers, so I can follow proper directions.



If it doesn't work by following the instructions exactly, several times, and also doing the alternative methods, the problem is not with me.
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Removed breach of rule 0 and rule 12
 
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William Parcher said:
It isn't difficult or dangerous to delete those Win10 files. Just in the past few days I removed them from two different Win7 machines. But the LifeHacker article is incomplete as to the necessary steps. It's not hard at all to uninstall those 3 updates as well as the folder holding all the Win10 stuff. But it must be done in a step-by-step fashion which isn't described in the article. You should be able to accomplish all of it in less than 15 minutes.
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So I uninstalled those 3 update files associated with Win10 and marked them as "Hide Update" so I wouldn't see them offered again. Well, they decided to unhide themselves with 2 of them getting installed again because I wasn't thinking that this would happen. Now I have Post-Its near my machines with these 3 update numbers jotted down so that I can prevent them from reinstalling themselves. Oh, and I have now reset my Windows Update so that it informs me of available updates but will not download or install anything unless I tell it to.
 
One thing I've noticed since upgrading is that Youtube videos take a long time to start playing. And it's not my internet connection because if I boot up Linux the videos start playing within a second or two.

Steve S
 
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